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Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Jack in the Box
Base damage reduced to 35/50/65/80/95 from 35/55/75/95/115
Ability power ratio reduced to 0.2 from 0.25
Can AP Shaco go away now? The box trap is even shittier now, but I'll probably still get AP Shacos that chill in brush for half the game with box traps that the enemy team won't fall for, and I'll probably get people on my team that do fall for them.
Those nerfs hardly hurt AP Shaco lol
Also, more Talon nerfs!
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Whoah new skins are badass. Love the new Miss Fortune one especially.
I think the Graves nerfs aren't enough and he'll still be the strongest ranged dps but I guess we'll see..
Talon finally getting those increased mana costs/cooldowns.
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dat feel when graves still has a 384 + 1.28 bonus AD nuke.
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Connor Wrote:Whoah new skins are badass. Love the new Miss Fortune one especially.
I think the Graves nerfs aren't enough and he'll still be the strongest ranged dps but I guess we'll see..
Talon finally getting those increased mana costs/cooldowns.
Cait destroys Graves.
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There is literally nothing Cait can do to stop Graves from nuking her to death.
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Aynia Wrote:There is literally nothing Cait can do to stop Graves from nuking her to death. 
dat Akali...
Meanwhile, I wonder how Ashe feels about all this.
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YOU MEAN THAT CHAMP NO ONE EVER PLAYS NOW?
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2011-11-01, 03:48 AM
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 I still play Ashe...
But I've had terrible teams lately...
Also lol in no way does Cait destroy Graves. His burst+utility is far superior to hers.
Edit: wow they patched in 52 minutes. /impressed
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Found a new love for GP.
Graves is pretty fun, but it's hard to get him 'cos of the fact EVERYONE wants him and you hafta be pretty fast to snag him up.
Even worse when my favourites go (atm being GP, Vlad, Anivia and Fiddle). Stuck using characters I'm not used to playing (apart from Lux and Morgana I suppose).
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lol @ Phreak playing versus scrubs in Dominion
Shyvana's dragon form doesn't look half bad when she's spamming abilities. I still can't get over the fact that she looks fugly when doing nothing though.
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[video=youtube;Z66n3UYfPE4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z66n3UYfPE4&feature=player_embedded[/video]
Lol @ "Shyvana's a pretty quick jungler but I play her as a solo top fighter". Phreak be killing the inb4 "playing (insert new champion here) as a jungler" expectations. New trend?
(On a srs note: I have yet to see if she's actually a decent jungler overall. She could be.  . And expected/10 on her tanky DPS role too)
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When I'm Cait I eat Graves for breakfast. His burst may be higher, but seriously, Caitlyn's range destroys all of the Graves I've seen so far.
Sadface at Caitlyn nerfs. Oh well, they're not that bad, but I'm wondering about that trap nerf.
Those new skins look awesome. If I ever get Riot Cash that Cho'Gath skin is on my list. That Miss Fortune skin and that Skyvana skin (the original looks so ugly...) look neat, too.
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Then you play against bad Graves. He's dumb and broke. Level 6 burst will pretty much instagib you. At lower levels you cannot win a toe to toe fight either.
490 base damage at 6 with 2.68 bonus AD scaling. Hue.
+170 true if you're igniting. Huehue balance. My name is shotgun tibbers
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You'd have to actively level E over W or he'd just quickdraw you over and over.
Not to mention that his harass has unmitigated damage as well.
Like Graves holds the cards in lane vs Cait. He has more options and basically nukes like a caster.
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Well, the other half of the time I'm harassing him with Cait's long range. I also pretty much always put my traps in the bushes so he can't go there.
Either that or Manu is an outstanding support.
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>Make small gains on graves
>He gets ONE good Q on you
>Suddenly lane is in favor.
Laning against graves, the game.
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Well, if I get one good Q on him too, it's over too amiright?
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Corn Wrote:Well, if I get one good Q on him too, it's over too amiright?
Nope.
Maybe when your damage isn't mitigated and has 384 base
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This weeks rotation seems fairly OMGWTF worthy. I guess that's how you get people to buy champions right?
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