[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN!
Raul Wrote:Yup.
Negates stance and limits some attacks.

Spend 50m to be able to half-assedly attack?
Wow, no.



Two words, Demon Slayer. Tanks as good as a Paladin, hits as hard as a Bowmaster, moves faster than any class in the game.
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ItachiPower Wrote:I hope this nerfs/removes the potential system so we don't see 20 second solos anymore..

Fixed.
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Having played jobs with great mobility, to some with somewhat decent ones, yes I think warriors should get some kind of boost skill for speed, not like speeding them up would break the game, not sure why you would be so against it. Started maple back recently as a warrior and getting around was terrible until I decided to make nimble rings and such.
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Baklava Wrote:Spend 50m to be able to half-assedly attack?
Wow, no.

You can move.
It's an improvement over what you have now.
And realistically they'd give you class-based mounts if they did that, which improved every job advancement.
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Raul Wrote:You can move.
It's an improvement over what you have now.
And realistically they'd give you class-based mounts if they did that, which improved every job advancement.

You halve the damage warriors are doing now and they'll be 11200% behind Demon Slayers.
My face.
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Baklava Wrote:You halve the damage warriors are doing now and they'll be 11200% behind Demon Slayers.
My face.

Who said anything about halving it?
And hell, take full power on your mounts if you want.
OR TAKE A DAMN BUFF IF YOU MUST.
Actually, having pallies on war horses and DrK's on dragons would be really cool.
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I think I see GMS's anniversary/summer patch!

OT: I think they're trying to build anticipation; sure, at this point it just feels like delays and excuses to the community, but to most people, it's something new and exciting to see. Also, the timing makes more sense. Release a much awaited patch in December when we usually release a long awaited patches? Yeah, that makes sense. Even if we irk the entire main player base. It's a very Nexon decision.

On the other hand, why do non-Thief/Pirate Adventurer's need a revamp? They just had one! I guess if we're buffing everything to Mercedes/Demon Slayer level then, sure, why not. But I'm not gonna lie. I'm happy Evan's getting a revamp. We've been a bit lackluster for a while now, and they've only been making small changes than don't really do that much.

I'm most confused at why UA's need a revamp. I'm guessing it's to make them more appealing to me so I have to invest time and money into one finally.
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Baklava Wrote:Two words, Demon Slayer. Tanks as good as a Paladin, hits as hard as a Bowmaster, moves faster than any class in the game.
So your suggestion for a rebalance is to continue to break things?

Slayers are an example of what they should not do.
It should not be a standard to which other classes should match.

There's no reason for warriors to be really fast.
Should they get some natural speed boost? Yes.
Should it be Flash-Jump like? No.

Raul Wrote:And realistically they'd give you class-based mounts if they did that, which improved every job advancement.
I'm okay with this as long as Warriors keep the hog.

Honestly, I will never forgive Nexon for making an archer the animal-mounted class.
So dumb.
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Suddenly Wildhunters arent so original anymore, will they QQ if warrior could attack while mounted? (Kinda like when Sins QQed about Shads getting Shadow partner)
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October 10?

Wait, aren't we in the 13? Monocle
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Viaje Wrote:So your suggestion for a rebalance is to continue to break things?

Nexon's apparently making a MapleStory-. Like Brawl-. Balance the game by making everything broken.
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Yorckie Wrote:Undispelable Magic Guard anyone (Magician)? :3

Magic guard might as well be passive instead of undispellable if that's the case.

They should just add a % chance for your buffs not to be dispelled to buff mastery.

Other changes I want to see for archmages if this is the last update for a while:

 Spoiler
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Eliseo Wrote:October 10?

Wait, aren't we in the 13? Monocle
October is the 10th month of the year, herpderp.

Aircalibur421 Wrote:Nexon's apparently making a MapleStory-. Like Brawl-. Balance the game by making everything broken.
Assuming you're talking about Smash Bros., your metaphor is terrible.
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I'm pretty tired of revamps. I just hope they go all out and don't half-ass it like the other revamps.

Abysseon Wrote:They should just add a % chance for your buffs not to be dispelled to buff mastery.

% chance would be even worse imo because then you have to double-check on it constantly
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Viaje Wrote:Assuming you're talking about Smash Bros., your metaphor is terrible.

How so? I thought it was pretty funny.
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Viaje Wrote:Why is this question being asked despite the fact that the reasons have been clearly stated?
Here's a visual example.

I don't need NX to show off my character either, but, even without NX, you can change up your look.


Because the announcement says so.
Another question that has been answered.

why not have them "spark" like dark knights do (or say, goku's power every few seconds, where random sparks appear on the char) and their attacks to look like this while under "transform" or "supercharged state"

[Image: hawk.gif]

only problem i can see is keeping the attacks fast enough, of course, there's several ways to go around that. but this way you can see your char most of the time too, and the epic super saiyan animation doesn't get the boot.
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Viaje Wrote:I'm okay with this as long as Warriors keep the hog.

Honestly, I will never forgive Nexon for making an archer the animal-mounted class.
So dumb.

I meant within the subclasses of Warriors.
Magicians, Archers, Thieves, and Pirates (to an extent) all have mobility skills that exceed that of a mount. Screw them.
It would be a skill at 2nd job, max level 10.
Spearmen would get a stupid looking little dragon, Fighters would get a horse, and Pages would get... I don't know what Pages would get. A giant combo orb?
3rd job would improve those a bit, the dragon would look a bit cooler and start to grow wings, the horse would grow bigger and get some armor, and the combo orb would get bigger (?).
4th job would give the dragon bigger wings and make it look a lot more dangerous, the horse would get bigger and get more armor (plus evil red eyes), and the combo orb would have babies.
When you got to 150, the dragon would get huge wings and teeth, do some passive touch damage, the horse would get bigger, get more armor and have it be spiked, also doing touch damage, and the combo orb would have a face that spat on enemies.

Am I missing anything here?
Good, didn't think so.
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Evan's got the over-abused dragon shtick, and I don't wanna share! Kidding.

Wouldn't mounts just be silly unless you can attack from atop them? Maybe something closer to combat step? I mean, I love WH's as much as the next guy, but I think one mounted class is good.

I do agree with you though. Warriors get the shaft majorly in the movement department, and a FJ clone doesn't make sense for them. Let's just give all Warriors teleport. Excellent
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Raul Wrote:I don't know what Pages would get. A giant combo orb?

For the record, Pages advance into White Knights and never get Combo Attack.


Though, as far as movement goes, I think that giving warriors 100% Stance in first job and Rush in place of Ground Smash is all that's really needed. Just having stance early on grants a huge reduction in travel time across maps; though, maybe they could make Rush into a charge move like Corkscrew Blow and charging it can extend its incredibly long attack range even further.

I like my Warriors being sluggish tanks, even if it is redundant in this game, so I'd rather them not become a mounted class like Wild Hunters or Corsairs.
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Aircalibur421 Wrote:Evan's got the over-abused dragon shtick, and I don't wanna share! Kidding.

Wouldn't mounts just be silly unless you can attack from atop them? Maybe something closer to combat step? I mean, I love WH's as much as the next guy, but I think one mounted class is good.

I do agree with you though. Warriors get the shaft majorly in the movement department, and a FJ clone doesn't make sense for them. Let's just give all Warriors teleport. Excellent

He meant a mount from where you can attack, although I don't think is actually possible since they would have to revamp most skills.

Also why not give them a horse to all, it fits warriors, unless you gave paladins some sort of hog.
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