Post ascension Bishop build

It's better off going to someone who can contribute to everyone else. Let's face it your amazing 1854%/s isn't going to get us anywhere.

Bolded for emphasis.

This is assuming no defence.

As I stated previously, unless I was desperate (which in your scenario I am) I wouldn't take a Corsair (unless it's beyond funded).

I also don't like pirates.

I guess I can take solace in the fact that you discriminate against more than my hypothetical bishop. I want to optimize exp for the party in this hypothetical, if you personally don't recruit for LHC around that idea that's dandy but not exactly a counterargument.

Damage is not a substitute for a lower exp modifier.

Hint: HS is an experience modifier.

I guess I can take solace in the fact that you discriminate against more than my hypothetical bishop. I want to optimize exp for the party in this hypothetical, if you personally don't recruit for LHC around that idea that's dandy but not exactly a counterargument.

Just pirates. Nothing else.

You ignored my counterargument though above.

Sure, here's a scenario:

A 199 BM (best dps as of jump, I think) is making a party on CH1 bearwolves. There are six other people looking for a party, ranked in order of their dps:

a sair
a NL
a bam
a hsless bishop
a bucc
a support bishop

Guess who he shouldn't bring? Hint: it's not the hsless bishop.

I bolded something extra this time, lets see if takebacker reads it the third time or not.

EDIT:

You ignored my counterargument though above.

Sorry, what point are you making? Bishops have a low % damage modifier in charts but its not inconceivable that they have enough funding to outdamage some other class.

I think he just doesn't like Pirates.

I bolded something extra this time, lets see if he reads it the third time or not.

I'm assuming this is to me in which case last time i'll respond because it doesn't matter if you can't understand s'hit.

The support bishop has low damage and HS. The other one is opposite. Choose the HS-less and you are trading a lower exp modifier for damage. This is the worst trade in the world for maximizing exp gain because unless you kill like 1.5x the mobs (as a bishop LOL) compared to when the party didn't have you, you aren't helping much.

Get it now?

Yeah I'd still take the Buccaneer over the HSless bishop even if he did max damage with Angel Ray with a Slow 7 staff (because elemental wands have a 25% elemental penalty on holy it'd be counterproductive to use one unless it had about 300+ matk on it). That'd only lead to like 71 casts a minute. Other classes do this 1. Much faster and 2. Much better.

I'm assuming this is to me in which case last time i'll respond because it doesn't matter if you can't understand s'hit.

The support bishop has low damage and HS. The other one is opposite. Choose the HS-less and you are trading a lower exp modifier for damage. This is the worst trade in the world for maximizing exp gain because unless you kill 1.5x the mobs (as a bishop LOL), you aren't helping much.

Get it now?

I get your point, which is a complete nonissue because you don't seem to grasp the entire reason I made the hypothetical. It's not hs bishop vs hsless bishop.

When deciding if you bring a hsless bishop, or any other attacker, you compare them with the other attackers, not the bishop with hs you absolutely should be bringing if you want to train anyway. The bucc doesn't get to come because it does less damage than everyone but the HSer and its buffs are useless in this case.

Now go cry.

Yeah I'd still take the Buccaneer over the HSless bishop even if he did max damage with Angel Ray with a Slow 7 staff (because elemental wands have a 25% elemental penalty on holy it'd be counterproductive to use one unless it had about 300+ matk on it). That'd only lead to like 71 casts a minute. Other classes do this 1. Much faster and 2. Much better.

Cast speed isn't affected by weapon speed except for F/Ps casting explosion. Bishops also get booster as of jump. If you are arguing that the richest bishop can't outdamage the poorest bucc you're absolutely wrong, I don't know what more I can say.

Why would the richest bishop have no points in HS?

Because rich people are often silly and eccentric

Cast speed isn't affected by weapon speed except for F/Ps casting explosion. Bishops also get booster as of jump. If you are arguing that the richest bishop can't outdamage the poorest bucc you're absolutely wrong, I don't know what more I can say.

Not my point, even if they weren't effected by booster (oh no) that's only 74 casts a minute since they're all Normal 6.

Once again O_o still slow.

This hypothetical situation is stupid.
Just saying.

Because rich people are often silly and eccentric

You just summarized what the "attacker" bishops are. There are bishops without heal, dark knights without HB.

But well, this game is all about funding. Easy enough. I don't get why most of you keep debating this.

Not my point, even if they weren't effected by booster (oh no) that's only 74 casts a minute since they're all Normal 6.

Once again O_o still slow.

Ok, but could you please explain what your point is that's relevant to my argument? If you have a personal bias for the numbers to appear faster rather than adding up to something higher that's certainly your prerogative, but it doesn't make the bucc any less weak than the hsless crazy old rich guy bishop who I made explicitly to make a point you're trying your damndest to avoid.

And just so you know, bishop and AM casting speed with booster is going to be fast 4 (not including explosion afaik) as of jump.

You just summarized what the "attacker" bishops are. There are bishops without heal, dark knights without HB.

But well, this game is all about funding. Easy enough. I don't get why most of you keep debating this.

Most people here play a chibi Korean MMO, we're all silly.

I don't understand the point of this argument.
Dannys not going to take the bishop.
Exidous can do nothing about it.
What are we fighting about?

Because rich people are often silly and eccentric

Eccentric and silly.
Not retarded.

Eccentric and silly.
Not retarded.

And that, my friend, makes it worse.

Now go cry.

For you? I might. I just might.

You can make up whatever hypothetical you want. No one is going to take a retard bishop with 1-2m DPS and no HS who sucks up all the exp for anyone weaker over HS.

K, he obviously doesn't read my posts, will someone else please explain to him what's going on before I facepalm again