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Some Archer Ascension questions.
#1
All right, so Ascension is coming and I have been anticipating this patch for months. Maple's state in terms of the economy and hackers made me say "screw it, my gear is good enough, not going to bother upgrading anymore unless I can afford it."

So now I'm curious about some of the new archer skills.

1. What exactly does Illusion Step do?

2. Do Final Attack really not trigger when using Strafe(/Ulti. Strafe, my sniper wishes to know this)?

3. Any idea what will happen to existing skill books? Specifically Phoenix and Frostprey, since those have been moved to 3rd Job. Will the skillbooks be removed completely or will they be changed to Spirit Pact skillbooks?

4. Does HB/Decent HB stack with Spirit Pact? I would assume they do, since Spirit Pact isn't dispellable, as long as your bird is out.

And unrelated to the archer questions, but;

5. I heard that there will be a Hot Time event, with SP resets for archers/warriors/magicians. Is the reset only for the one logged in or does it count for the entire account, given that they are of the appropriate class? I ask this because I have two bowmen and a magician who can really use these resets. If it only counts for the character logged in, I'll just let my Bowmaster have that...

Forgive me if these aren't the smartest questions or if they have been answered a dozen times before, but I have been ignoring Maple since May and am really quite behind on things, but the archer update is really all I care about in terms of playing again whenever I next can, lol.
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#2
1. Shadow Shifter
2. Doesn't trigger.
3. Skillbooks will change, if it works out like Tespia then point will transfer too.
4. Yes
5. No idea.
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#3
1) Same as shadow shifter except adds 40 dex as well.
2) I guess.
3) They change. To what? I think spirit link.
4) Yes.
5) We don't know yet.
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#4
1. Gives a % dodge, similar to shadow shifter(don't know what % off the top of my head)
2. Joe said so, so probably yes Rolleyes
3. Pheonix and Frostprey become their respective spirit link versions
4. Yes
5. In KMS all warriors, mages, and bowmen got SP resets on first post jump logins. God knows what NexonNA will do though.
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#5
Mmkay, thanks a lot guys! One more question, is there a link to translated skill tables (updated)? I can't find one in the extractions.
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#6
Edit: Guess not.

Why do you want english skill tables? Just look at the numbers. The text won't mean anything.
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#7
Takebacker Wrote:Edit: Guess not.

Why do you want english skill tables? Just look at the numbers. The text won't mean anything.

I'd rather make it easier on myself to see what the numbers mean, and I don't exactly know how much has been changed in the original skills. Seeing how much stuff's in the extraction section already, I can't seem to find a thread that had skill mechanic translations (which I'm fairly certain there is one somewhere, I believe JoeTang was the translator?).
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#8
MariaColette Wrote:I'd rather make it easier on myself to see what the numbers mean, and I don't exactly know how much has been changed in the original skills. Seeing how much stuff's in the extraction section already, I can't seem to find a thread that had skill mechanic translations (which I'm fairly certain there is one somewhere, I believe JoeTang was the translator?).

I don't have any skill tables, but there's a definitely spadow's blog. He's got all of the changes in English.

Here ya go.

http://spadow.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/k...-of-speed/
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#9
1) Same as Shadow Shifter but with an extra 40 dex.
2) Why wouldn't FA activate from Strafe? Only makes sense for it to activate.
3) Phoenix and Frostprey become their respective Spirit Link however, and this hasn't been mentioned before on this thread, the points don't transfer (according to Tespia). If you have level 30 Phoenix, you'll have max level 30 (wont' need books) but it'll be at level 0.
4) Yes.
5) Dunno.
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#10
White Wrote:1) Same as Shadow Shifter but with an extra 40 dex.
2) Why wouldn't FA activate from Strafe? Only makes sense for it to activate.
3) Phoenix and Frostprey become their respective Spirit Link however, and this hasn't been mentioned before on this thread, the points don't transfer (according to Tespia). If you have level 30 Phoenix, you'll have max level 30 (wont' need books) but it'll be at level 0.
4) Yes.
5) Dunno.

Strafe does not trigger FA.
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#11
Locked Wrote:Strafe does not trigger FA.

Did it at some point? I believe there was a time when it did... or at least it'd make sense for it to activate FA when all of the fourth job warrior skills activate their FA.
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#12
DucksGoQuack Wrote:Did it at some point? I believe there was a time when it did... or at least it'd make sense for it to activate FA when all of the fourth job warrior skills activate their FA.

Post-BB.
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#13
[video=youtube;YGztatbKgMU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGztatbKgMU[/video]

EDIT: The video above only proves that AFA does work with both Strafe and Hurricane since at the time of that vid, I did have points in AFA.
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#14
iamflip Wrote:EDIT: Looking at that video again, I do see the FA attack animation with hurricane too, so I guess I confirmed that Hurricane can trigger FA as well.

This was true since BB. But post-Ascension, is it the case that regular FA does not trigger with Strafe, while AFA does? o_o

If Strafe really doesn't trigger FA in 3rd Job, that just makes no sense to me and it makes my Sniper quite unhappy, considering Marksmen don't get AFA...
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#15
Ok... now I properly tested it, and well...

[video=youtube;y7w2a5Q9jqI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7w2a5Q9jqI[/video]
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#16
Hey look, something that isn't a pineappleing Marksman or Sniper.
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#17
JoeTang Wrote:Hey look, something that isn't a pineappleing Marksman or Sniper.

He's been working on it, give him time.
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#18
MariaColette Wrote:He's been working on it, give him time.

[Image: YFVIN.png]
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#19
Locked Wrote:[Image: YFVIN.png]

Well... that's depressing. :c Though that won't stop me from playing my sniper, of course.
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#20
MariaColette Wrote:Well... that's depressing. :c Though that won't stop me from playing my sniper, of course.

Well Strafe does have a finalAttack tag, not sure if Ult Strafe borrows it. Joe swears that he never gets FA with it on his Sniper though. I doubt he's that unlucky.
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