ShiKage's Infighter Build

Level 10 Stun Mastery: Probability 40% Damage 30%
Level 6 Energy Charge: Duration 33 seconds Evasion +3 ACC +3 90% Charge Rate Damage +30% Attack +11 Probability 16%

that 30% + 30% = 60% same as stun aint it? :f6:
but really the DPS is that really helpful?
i'ma be trainin at hoodoo or something, no need to stun if you kill in like 2 hits...

The Damage% from Energy Charge only has to do with its Power Guard-esqe affect

The Damage% from Energy Charge only has to do with its Power Guard-esqe affect

Power guard affect? what does that do?
and well isnt like 11 atk better then 30%+ dmg? :f6:
is it like the Power guard the fighters have where when a monster hits you they take a certain % back?
If not then what is it because in Youtube videos i see them gettin hit

When Energy Charge's affects are activated, (that is, once the bar is full), when you are physically touched for damage, you return the Damage% of that damage

To add on to what Daemarius said, it takes a LONG time to fully charge Energy Charge at lower levels. By the time you have that charged and you get the 33 second +11 weapon attack (which doesn't stack with attack potions, by the way), you could have delt a higher damage per minute ratio.

How long's it take to charge when maxed?

So for AP, dex = your level?

Hey ShiKage, Do you mind if i'll translate your build and everything to Hebrew? with Credit Of course. (And credit to the forum if it matters)

To add on to what Daemarius said, it takes a LONG time to fully charge Energy Charge at lower levels. By the time you have that charged and you get the 33 second +11 weapon attack (which doesn't stack with attack potions, by the way), you could have delt a higher damage per minute ratio.

Yeah... How long does it take exactly? And if the 11 atk is better then that stun when its active wont it out dmg the stun a.k.a. more DPM? :f6:
Also If stun mastery is good why in certain guild its says get its like after Energy Charge? Aha!
(hopes to win this arguement)

@TakeBacker : At that level, Energy Charge will take about 3 to 5 minutes to charge, depending on what you're killing.

@ZachAttack : Yes, your DEX should be your level or lower.

@Shahak : Feel free to do so if you wish. As long as you're not stealing information, it's fine with me.

@kingdj333 : That person who wrote that build obviously has no idea what they're talking about. If you get Energy Charge first, it'll be a complete waste of SP. It's like getting Shout before getting Combo for a Crusader. It takes too long to charge fully at those levels and it only lasts for half a minute. Stun can be activated every time you use Back Elbow and Double Upper, which gives you a chance to deal a critical hit. The damage dealt with stun in the time it takes to charge Energy Charge is greater than the damage you'd deal with only +11 weapon attack for 33 seconds. If you wanted that weapon attack boost, it's better to use a Warrior Elixer from New Leaf City, which is +12 weapon attack for 8 minutes.

[quote=ShiKage] @kingdj333 : That person who wrote that build obviously has no idea what they're talking about. If you get Energy Charge first, it'll be a complete waste of SP. It's like getting Shout before getting combo

really? your enjoying the fact that your owning me :O
anyways I understand now... I'ma have to change my skill build.
quick questions: do you use energy buster when training? how useless it? and when you energy drain do you have a casting delay or is it instint?

Yeah... How long does it take exactly? And if the 11 atk is better then that stun when its active wont it out dmg the stun a.k.a. more DPM? :f6:
Also If stun mastery is good why in certain guild its says get its like after Energy Charge? Aha!
(hopes to win this arguement)

I would assume the stronger you are and the more damage you dish out, the faster the bar charges. That being said, no Buc will charge at the same rate as another Buc.

Crits are ALWAYS better than +atk from Energy Charge. And like Justin said, buy Warrior Elixirs

Whoever wrote that guide with Stun Mastery not being first and foremost, is an idiot

@TakeBacker : At that level, Energy Charge will take about 3 to 5 minutes to charge, depending on what you're killing.

@ZachAttack : Yes, your DEX should be your level or lower.

@Shahak : Feel free to do so if you wish. As long as you're not stealing information, it's fine with me.

@kingdj333 : That person who wrote that build obviously has no idea what they're talking about. If you get Energy Charge first, it'll be a complete waste of SP. It's like getting Shout before getting Combo for a Crusader. It takes too long to charge fully at those levels and it only lasts for half a minute. Stun can be activated every time you use Back Elbow and Double Upper, which gives you a chance to deal a critical hit. The damage dealt with stun in the time it takes to charge Energy Charge is greater than the damage you'd deal with only +11 weapon attack for 33 seconds. If you wanted that weapon attack boost, it's better to use a Warrior Elixer from New Leaf City, which is +12 weapon attack for 8 minutes.

Kk Ty. Ill show you the result, (Ill write the credit in Ebglish so you'll understand)

I would assume the stronger you are and the more damage you dish out, the faster the bar charges. That being said, no Buc will charge at the same rate as another Buc.

Crits are ALWAYS better than +atk from Energy Charge. And like Justin said, buy Warrior Elixirs

Whoever wrote that guide with Stun Mastery not being first and foremost, is an idiot

That sound reason able...
So is this a better build?
level 70:+1 stun
level 72 ~ 77 : +3 stun (maxes stun)
then do enregy charge? :f6:

That sound reason able...
So is this a better build?
level 70:+1 stun
level 72 ~ 77 : +3 stun (maxes stun)
then do enregy charge? :f6:

This is my complete 3rd Job build, take what you will and critque what you must

70: +1 Transform(1)
71: +2 Transform(3), +1 Shockwave(1)
72: +2 Transform(5), +1 Shockwave(2)
73: +2 Transform(7), +1 Shockwave(3)
74: +2 Transform(9), +1 Shockwave(4)
75: +2 Transform(11), +1 Shockwave(5)
76: +2 Transform(13), +1 Shockwave(6)
77: +2 Transform(15), +1 Shockwave(7)
78: +2 Transform(17), +1 Shockwave(8)
79: +2 Transform(19), +1 Shockwave(9)
80: +1 Transform(MAX), +2 Shockwave(11)
81: +3 Shockwave(14)
82: +3 Shockwave(17)
83: +3 Shockwave(20)
84: +3 Shockwave(23)
85: +3 Shockwave(26)
86: +3 Shockwave(29)
87: +1 Shockwave(MAX), +2 Stun Mastery(2)
88: +3 Stun Mastery(5)
89: +3 Stun Mastery(8)
90: +3 Stun Mastery(11)
91: +3 Stun Mastery(14)
92: +3 Stun Mastery(17)
93: +3 Stun Mastery(MAX)
94: +2 Energy Charge(2), +1 Energy Buster(1)
95: +2 Energy Charge(4), +1 Energy Buster(2)
96: +2 Energy Charge(6), +1 Energy Buster(3)
97: +2 Energy Charge(8), +1 Energy Buster(4)
98: +2 Energy Charge(10), +1 Energy Buster(5)
99: +2 Energy Charge(12), +1 Energy Buster(6)
100: +2 Energy Charge(14), +1 Energy Buster(7)
101: +2 Energy Charge(16), +1 Energy Buster(8)
102: +1 Energy Charge(17), +2 Energy Buster(10)
103: +2 Energy Charge(19), +1 Energy Buster(11)
104: +2 Energy Charge(21), +1 Energy Buster(12)
105: +2 Energy Charge(23), +1 Energy Buster(13)
106: +1 Energy Charge(24), +2 Energy Buster(15)
107: +1 Energy Charge(25), +2 Energy Buster(17)
108: +3 Energy Buster(28)
109: +2 Energy Charge(30), +1 Energy Buster(18)
110: +2 Energy Charge(32), +1 Energy Buster(19)
111: +2 Energy Charge(34), +1 Energy Buster(20)
112: +2 Energy Charge(36), +1 Energy Buster(21)
113: +2 Energy Charge(38), +1 Energy Buster(22)
114: +2 Energy Charge(MAX), +1 Energy Buster(23)
115: +3 Energy Buster(26)
116: +3 Energy Buster(29)
117: +1 Energy Buster(MAX), +2 Energy Drain(2)
118: +3 Energy Drain(5)
119: +3 Energy Drain(8)
120: +3 Energy Drain(11)

Skill Dist. at Lvl 120: 151 Points Total

BASE SKILL BUILD:

• 20 Transform
  
• 20 Stun Mastery
  
• 40 Energy Charge
  
• 30 Shockwave
  

OPTIONS:
(Max EB Build)

• 30 Energy Buster
  
• 11 Energy Drain
  

(Max ED Build)

• 20 Energy Drain
  
• 21 Energy Buster
  

Im thinking of maxing out Shockwave over Transform....but w/e

Are there any skills that work with transform from the first or second job?:f6:

Are there any skills that work with transform from the first or second job?:f6:

When Transformed you can only use Knuckle Booster, Shockwave, Energy Buster, Energy Drain, Wind Booster, Time Leap, and Maple Hero. Im not sure about Hero's Will

When Super Transformed you can only use Knuckle Booster, Shockwave, Demolition, Snatch, Energy Buster, Energy Drain, Wind Booster, Time Leap, and Maple Hero. Again not sure about Hero's Will

Shikage did you experience any hell levels? I personal hate those levels and i end up quiting it.

Hmmm... Well, I can't exactly tell if there were real 'hell levels' since I did go from level 10 to 120 in 2 months... However, I'd say 70 - 80 is harsh (just like any other class), because you're stuck at the same places you've been training at since 5x or 6x until you can go to Duals.

For Shikage only:
Is Energy buster used in training alot, when energy charge is charged?
which is better? Energy buster or Shockwave?
When you got into transform are you stund for like asecond like shadow partner or is it trans the go?

I use Energy Buster almost constantly when I have my Energy Charge fully charged.
Training/pot-wise, Energy Buster is better, but damage wise, Shockwave is better. I'm not sure what you mean on the last one, but if I understand correctly, then all you do is press the key for transform as you're moving.