Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure)

2. Not Kushina. She's sealed with Minato. And even if she isn't, I don't think she ever learned this technique.

Pretty sure Kushina wasn't sealed within the Death God. Minato used it on himself and the Nine-tails, he just sealed some of Kushina's jutsu within Naruto.

OR he learned how to switch places with his shadow clones and 1 uped his father's teleport technique and the one in the foreground is the actual Naruto and the people fighting Itachi and Nagato were actually clones :O

I can totally see this happening in the future.

Because the first thing that naruto chose to do was totally not create a bunch of clones and send them out to each battlefield.

Totally forgot about that...

And I didn't notice it 'til now, but the way that hand is shaped could only make it Naruto.

I agree with Netto. Hand + Gaara's face = Naruto.

It was needed, he was one of the top strongest people EVER and he barely got any spotlight besides flashbacks and weak fights.

Can someone clarify how exactly the Crow made Itachi free from Edo Tensei? I thought it was him masking a genjutsu over it which I would think, like Jinn, that would be how he'd stop Edo Tensei.

Or by using the Sword of Tonkin. Holy pomegranate lol he easily came in and took Nagato out in an instant, and the two best Jinchurikee were peaching and had a tought time...I'm such a fan.

I think him one hitting Deidara, Kakashi and Orochimaru and dealing with sasuke the way he did provided him with enough spotlight compared to someone like tsunade or neji, but I guess that's just because differnt people like differnt characters.

The crow was shisui's ultimate genjutsu, which he according to itachi freely gave to him in order to aid him in saving konoha. Itachi then gave the crow to Naruto as another of his fail saves if sasuke decided to go as insane as he did after madara would confront him. Another one was the amaratsu, which Itachi hid in sasuke's eyes. The crow has the power to instill a command in someone's brain making themselves believe it. In this case Itachi used protect konoha and made it so it would activate upon seeing a mangekyou sharingan in order for Sasuke to be turned to the good side again when Naruto and him would meet again. It was a simple fluke that itachi got edo tensei'd and met Naruto which gave him the protect konoha command, which broke him free of Kabuto's edo tensei's control. I don't really know why Kabuto can't just release the jutsu, but I guess that would lead to the other edo tensei's end as well.

Nagato could have easily used bansho tensin with a soul grab first, just like he did with naruto. It was just a matter of who would use their one hit KO first. You could think that was impressive or you could just think that it was 3vs1. I for one choose for the latter. Itachi is special, but Nagato is more special. (I also don't really get why he didn't just absorb the sword of totsuka)

Can someone clarify how exactly the Crow made Itachi free from Edo Tensei? I thought it was him masking a genjutsu over it which I would think, like Jinn, that would be how he'd stop Edo Tensei.

Kabuto already told us how to stop edo tensei. Cast a genjutsu on kabuto and make him release it. And off the strongest genjutsu user manga goes claiming to know how to stop edo tensei. Seems pretty obvious what he intends to do to me.

(I also don't really get why he didn't just absorb the sword of totsuka)

same reason he didn't absorb Jiriyas Genjutsu way back. His power is only to absorb ninjutsu, not Genjutsus or Taijutsus

Yea my 2 favorite people in Naruto are Itachi and Kakashi. We all know what Itachi has been up to/is about to do, but that last time we saw kakashi, it was announced that he was a "man about to go on a rampage." Still patiently waiting for the pineapple fest o.o

Yea my 2 favorite people in Naruto are Itachi and Kakashi. We all know what Itachi has been up to/is about to do, but that last time we saw kakashi, it was announced that he was a "man about to go on a rampage." Still patiently waiting for the pineapple fest o.o

Forgot all about this. I am excited now.

But how would Itachi know the correct hand symbols that kabuto said to stop it.

That's a plothole if he somehow does it.

And yeah ger they skipped kakashi owning...

But how would Itachi know the correct hand symbols that kabuto said to stop it.

That's a plothole if he somehow does it.

He doesn't need to know the symbols to dispell the summoning, kabuto does, and if he can beat Kabuto in a fight, he can just go mind reading as several genjutsu users have done since shippuden began. I would think that it's more of a problem letting itachi run around on his own, other than Naruto and Killer Bee, now every single person from boths sides will be trying to kill him. Not the best start to any plan in my opinion.

He doesn't need to know the symbols to dispell the summoning, kabuto does, and if he can beat Kabuto in a fight, he can just go mind reading as several genjutsu users have done since shippuden began. I would think that it's more of a problem letting itachi run around on his own, other than Naruto and Killer Bee, now every single person from boths sides will be trying to kill him. Not the best start to any plan in my opinion.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying, but why would the Allied Shinobi Forces try to kill Itachi? Even if they thought he was still under the Edo Tensei jutsu, he could probably avoid basically anyone while getting to Kabuto or could simply tell the general of that battalion that he is going after Kabuto. Depending on the next few chapters, if Naruto/Bee save Gaara's battalion from the x-Kages, Naruto could let Gaara know that Itachi is on their side, thus letting the rest of the Allied Forces know as well.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying, but why would the Allied Shinobi Forces try to kill Itachi? Even if they thought he was still under the Edo Tensei jutsu, he could probably avoid basically anyone while getting to Kabuto or could simply tell the general of that battalion that he is going after Kabuto. Depending on the next few chapters, if Naruto/Bee save Gaara's battalion from the x-Kages, Naruto could let Gaara know that Itachi is on their side, thus letting the rest of the Allied Forces know as well.

He wasn't talking about the Allied Shinobi Forces killing Itachi. He was talking about the Allied Shinobi Forces, Itachi, AND Naruto/Bee coming after Kabuto.

And I just thought about it. What's with Gaara's serious face? I would've thought that Gaara would have a shocked look on his face if it were Naruto.

Kabuto already told us how to stop edo tensei. Cast a genjutsu on kabuto and make him release it. And off the strongest genjutsu user manga goes claiming to know how to stop edo tensei. Seems pretty obvious what he intends to do to me.



same reason he didn't absorb Jiriyas Genjutsu way back. His power is only to absorb ninjutsu, not Genjutsus or Taijutsus

No, his power is to absorb chakra. So things like tsunade's chakra enforced punches would lose their monstrous strenght. And even so the sword of totsuka used by susanoo is a ninjutsu. Also Gaara has that face because he knows Naruto and would thus know that he would show up sooner or later I think.

No, his power is to absorb chakra. So things like tsunade's chakra enforced punches would lose their monstrous strenght. And even so the sword of totsuka used by susanoo is a ninjutsu. Also Gaara has that face because he knows Naruto and would thus know that he would show up sooner or later I think.

It's a ninjutsu huh? Clearly thats why this page says otherwise.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-397-14/nar...r-392.html

Anyone stabbed by it is trapped in a genjutsu for all eternity. Pretty cut and dry that it's a Genjutsu. At best you could argue its a taijutsu attack like all swords until you stab someone with it, I guess. Either way, it's not a Ninjutsu

And if he COULD absorb any chakra, whats your excuse that he didn't either time it would have saved his ass from Genjutsu attacks? Because he secretly wanted to die for the first time, and that kabuto didn't actually want to force him to absorb the totsuka's attack for the second?

It's a ninjutsu huh? Clearly thats why this page says otherwise.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-397-14/nar...r-392.html

Anyone stabbed by it is trapped in a genjutsu for all eternity. Pretty cut and dry that it's a Genjutsu. At best you could argue its a taijutsu attack like all swords until you stab someone with it, I guess. Either way, it's not a Ninjutsu

And if he COULD absorb any chakra, whats your excuse that he didn't either time it would have saved his ass from Genjutsu attacks? Because he secretly wanted to die for the first time, and that kabuto didn't actually want to force him to absorb the totsuka's attack for the second?

Susano is a ninjutsu and the sword of totsuka is part of susano and can thus be absorbed. Just because it seals you in an eternal genjutsu doesn't mean the sword itself is. Also the taijutsu would then be kenjutsu. Why he doesn't absorb every attack that comes its way? Plot induced-stupidty that's why. This page also proves he absorbs chakra: http://www.mangareader.net/93-440-2/naru...r-435.html

Susano is a ninjutsu and the sword of totsuka is part of susano and can thus be absorbed. Just because it seals you in an eternal genjutsu doesn't mean the sword itself is. Also the taijutsu would then be kenjutsu.

Calling them different names is redundant, Taijutsu = Body techniques. If you want to go around pulling redundant names for every single type of weapon in Naruto out, have fun, everyone else is just going to call them taijutsu (aside: that would mean Guy and Lee aren't Taijutsu only users since they have skill with weapons, yes I know guy showed summoning, again pointless for this discussion), and that proves absolutely nothing regarding the discussion either way.

The sword isn't a ninjutsu. During the Sasuke Itachi fight, Zetsu states that Orochimaru spent a long time looking for the sword of Totsuka, and that itachi owned it instead. Zetsu also called it a "treasure" of some sort, so we knew not only is it a physical item with a genjutsu applied to it (possibly in a similar way people apply nature chakra to swords), but that it exists and isn't a part of the Susanno technique. Which also makes sense as to why Sasuke does not have the sword, it was and remains in itachi possession somehow. Possibly he uses a summoning technique to bring it whenever he needs to for susano (makes sense as to why it wasn't there initially either time he has used Susano). Further, just susano using it doesn't make it a ninjutsu. It has a physical form and could pick up anything. Say that Susanno was used to lift up a tree, that wouldn't make it a Ninjutsu tree. Same goes for the sword.

Why he doesn't absorb every attack that comes its way? Plot induced-stupidty that's why.

Funny, he had absolutely no problem absorbing every attack that used chakra wasn't genjutsu/Taijutsu based that in every situation that came his way (or towards his absorbing body when he was using the 6 paths. If you have to blame it on "dur he got suddenly stupid" vs an actual explanation, i.e. he couldn't, you should realise that you're probably wrong.

This page also proves he absorbs chakra: http://www.mangareader.net/93-440-2/naru...r-435.html

Show me where that displays the ability to absorb Genjutsu? Nowhere? Well la-de-da then. Him being able to absorb chakra from people isn't under question, especially when Ninja constantly radiate chakra and the stronger ones use that chakra for ninjutsu techniques like Bijuu cloaks or the raikages lightning armour.


Either way, I suppose outside of Nagato saying "yes I can absorb genjutsu but I'm an idiot and let it defeat me twice" or him admitting he couldn't absorb it, neither of which are likely to happen, so we're just going to be going round in circles. Therefore, I think I'm done with this discussion and I'll just take my opinion away quietly on this matter (after this post, obviously :p)

Calling them different names is redundant, Taijutsu = Body techniques. If you want to go around pulling redundant names for every single type of weapon in Naruto out, have fun, everyone else is just going to call them taijutsu (aside: that would mean Guy and Lee aren't Taijutsu only users since they have skill with weapons, yes I know guy showed summoning, again pointless for this discussion), and that proves absolutely nothing regarding the discussion either way.

The sword isn't a ninjutsu. During the Sasuke Itachi fight, Zetsu states that Orochimaru spent a long time looking for the sword of Totsuka, and that itachi owned it instead. Zetsu also called it a "treasure" of some sort, so we knew not only is it a physical item with a genjutsu applied to it (possibly in a similar way people apply nature chakra to swords), but that it exists and isn't a part of the Susanno technique. Which also makes sense as to why Sasuke does not have the sword, it was and remains in itachi possession somehow. Possibly he uses a summoning technique to bring it whenever he needs to for susano (makes sense as to why it wasn't there initially either time he has used Susano). Further, just susano using it doesn't make it a ninjutsu. It has a physical form and could pick up anything. Say that Susanno was used to lift up a tree, that wouldn't make it a Ninjutsu tree. Same goes for the sword.


Funny, he had absolutely no problem absorbing every attack that used chakra wasn't genjutsu/Taijutsu based that in every situation that came his way (or towards his absorbing body when he was using the 6 paths. If you have to blame it on "dur he got suddenly stupid" vs an actual explanation, i.e. he couldn't, you should realise that you're probably wrong.


Show me where that displays the ability to absorb Genjutsu? Nowhere? Well la-de-da then. Him being able to absorb chakra from people isn't under question, especially when Ninja constantly radiate chakra and the stronger ones use that chakra for ninjutsu techniques like Bijuu cloaks or the raikages lightning armour.


Either way, I suppose outside of Nagato saying "yes I can absorb genjutsu but I'm an idiot and let it defeat me twice" or him admitting he couldn't absorb it, neither of which are likely to happen, so we're just going to be going round in circles. Therefore, I think I'm done with this discussion and I'll just take my opinion away quietly on this matter (after this post, obviously :p)

http://www.mangareader.net/93-397-14/nar...r-392.html 'a spirit sword with no real physical form', meaning it's made of chakra. Why he didn't absorb jiraiya's genjutsu is because he didn't expect it from his former sensei, as he never was a star in genjutsu. A possible explanation for why nagato didn't absorb the sword of totsuka might be that it was to fast for nagato to react to. I hope you do agree with me that susanoo could at least be absorbed?

I want the next chapter now. T_T

Can anyone make a list of events so far since the World war broke out, a bit detailed? I will re-read them as of now, but I seriously think I will not be able to keep track of ALL the battlefields so far in more than a month, as some of the posts so far reminded me of things I have completly forgot, like Kakashi rampage o.O

New chapter is Out.

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We finally get to see Sasuke new eye's and of course the obvious Naruto at the scene with a new move Rasengan Planet.

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Unimpressed by Sasuke's EMS look :< Ah well...
But about dam time it was shown! Been waiting for this day.

And yet another rasengan move. And it looks like even Gaara's starting to worry about Naruto using a lot of the Kyuubi chakra.

Stupid Naruto. Buy the time he gets to Sasuke, he will have ran out of chakra and will have to try to go back to trying to convince Sasuke to be good.

I can see Naruto almost running out of Kyubi chakra and The Kyubi trying to take over once again.