[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp

Magic Crash doesn't undo Damage Reflect, it can only prevent the buff from being cast in the first place. Meaning that if the warrior isn't lucky and casts crash too soon or too late, there's nothing he/she can do about it. Oh and now that monsters can't have crash used on them more than once per minute, it'll be even harder to time it right.

Anyone who has a chance of being in the top 50 shouldn't take more than a few seconds to kill lilynouch anyway. It can't cast DR if it's dead.

Magic Crash doesn't undo Damage Reflect, it can only prevent the buff from being cast in the first place. Meaning that if the warrior isn't lucky and casts crash too soon or too late, there's nothing he/she can do about it. Oh and now that monsters can't have crash used on them more than once per minute, it'll be even harder to time it right.

I guess you don't realize that Lily uses DR at half hp, not based on time. So unless you can kill it in like 1 second, it'll use DR. I'd know, I'm a very strong BM yet it always gets it's DR off.

I guess you don't realize that Lily uses DR at half hp, not based on time. So unless you can kill it in like 1 second, it'll use DR. I'd know, I'm a very strong BM yet it always gets it's DR off.

Oh, I was always under the impression that it cast damage reflect at random. Still, I'm not so sure Magic Crash is going to automatically limit the top 50 ranks to be limited only to warriors.

sounds like pg hack+godmode = top 50

Oh, I was always under the impression that it cast damage reflect at random. Still, I'm not so sure Magic Crash is going to automatically limit the top 50 ranks to be limited only to warriors.

While it's not necessarily true, that extra free 15 seconds will definitely put the bar lower for warriors to get in the top 50 vs other classes.

Not sure what smart-kb has to do with this.

I guess you don't realize that Lily uses DR at half hp, not based on time. So unless you can kill it in like 1 second, it'll use DR. I'd know, I'm a very strong BM yet it always gets it's DR off.

So it activates without the boss even needing an animation? Just half hp?

Wow, so much for Aran and his ridiculous Overswing that locks things into KB so easily. If the boss doesn't even need animations to DR, then the KB method is out the window now. Now it's truly hackers/adventurer warriors only.

Nah, lily floats up a bit and turns purple, DR activates shortly into the animation. Not really sure but can an aran keep a mob perma-kb'd? Instant you let it up it'll DR.

Arans and bowmasters tend to perma-KB.

So it activates without the boss even needing an animation? Just half hp?

Wow, so much for Aran and his ridiculous Overswing that locks things into KB so easily. If the boss doesn't even need animations to DR, then the KB method is out the window now. Now it's truly hackers/adventurer warriors only.

....arans have no need for smart kb, our mass kb works on bosses if you do the amount of dmg it needs to kb them, ever watch arans VS pap vids? yea

Arans and bowmasters tend to perma-KB.

In the sense of prohibiting animations from occuring. For example, CoH and Barrage both have an auto-kb thing that basically freezes the monster so it can't do anything until about after the skill finishes, meaning lily couldn't use DR because it's kb'd. But that kb/freeze cannot be perma maintained. My question was whether Arans are somehow able to maintain a perma frozen/kb state so lily can't use DR. My assumption is no, but Liteness is confusing me.

In the sense of prohibiting animations from occuring. For example, CoH and Barrage both have an auto-kb thing that basically freezes the monster so it can't do anything until about after the skill finishes, meaning lily couldn't use DR because it's kb'd. But that kb/freeze cannot be perma maintained. My question was whether Arans are somehow able to maintain a perma frozen/kb state so lily can't use DR. My assumption is no, but Liteness is confusing me.

Perma KB as in, their attacks are formed in a way that keep knockback constant. Just like Hurricane.

[video=youtube;TJtIFbjDptQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJtIFbjDptQ[/video]

for longer time bosses warriors are doomed since Crash has now a cooldown of 1 minute.

Arans with their combo drain.... So unfair.

As an Evan, I got MP recovery, but well, that could save me some seconds I guess. Oh well.

How about BaM's with drain on every attack? Not to mention Twister Spin 30 which grants 50% playtime invincibility, and ABA+Body Boost, which shaves off another 10 Seconds of vulnerability time... ? Fair enough yet?

How about BaM's with drain on every attack? Not to mention Twister Spin 30 which grants 50% playtime invincibility, and ABA+Body Boost, which shaves off another 10 Seconds of vulnerability time... ? Fair enough yet?

....Anyway, I'll try to get to the top 50, shoudn't be hard if a hacking will make someone be in the top 50 spots. Some pq's seem to favor classes with drain like skills. And by some, I mean all.

This whole ordeal seems so unfair to mages of all kinds (except BaMs). Bishops, especially... Top 50? Good luck on top 500 x]

Holy crap this looks promising, do want.

This whole ordeal seems so unfair to mages of all kinds (except BaMs). Bishops, especially... Top 50? Good luck on top 500 x]

Why would anyone want to waste such amazing gloves on a Bishop I don't even

This whole ordeal seems so unfair to mages of all kinds (except BaMs). Bishops, especially... Top 50? Good luck on top 500 x]

Why bishop especially? I can solo the current dojo and lily fine. If anything I'd say bishops have an advantage being able to heal.

Why would anyone want to waste such amazing gloves on a Bishop I don't even

Bite me.

This whole ordeal seems so unfair to mages of all kinds (except BaMs). Bishops, especially... Top 50? Good luck on top 500 x]

Considering F/Ps 1 hit 95% of the bosses with that mist explosion thing...

Why would anyone want to waste such amazing gloves on a Bishop I don't even

People whose main is a bishop. Besides, it's not worth it since the gloves last for a day.