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No one posted it so.
Konahamaru is rasengans guy am sure about it.
And naruto and bee fight off against the new set of Six Paths.
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OB3LISK Wrote:No one posted it so.
Konahamaru is rasengans guy am sure about it.
And naruto and bee fight off against the new set of Six Paths.
Nah, I believe it is Naruto. He will most likely join the fight and meet the Kages, specially the Kazekage and the Tsuchikage, introducing them to the person that inspired Gaara into who he is now.
As for Itachi knowing about Konoha acknowledging Naruto now, even if the whole village didn't acknowledge him until he defeated Nagato, he was already acknowledged and admired by a lot of Shinoby and some Citizens, in other words, he had friends, and I consider that already was enough to say Konoha does. Itachi also spent some time with Nagato before they met up with Naruto, I'm sure Itachi asked him "so... how did you die?" and this answered (well, you know this kid Naruto From your village?..."
Even if what he said wasn't really that special, Itachi's speech + first smile ever = inmensely badass
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Eliseo Wrote:Isn't Naruto vs. Madara battle going to be a bit sooner? I don't think Naruto can face off Madara and win.
At this rate, naruto will have no chakra left by the time he gets to Madara.
REALLY want to see Kabuto's Trump Card vs. Immortal-badass-of-the-universe Itachi
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I want to see a side manga just about Itachi.
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byakugan Wrote:Nah, I believe it is Naruto. He will most likely join the fight and meet the Kages, specially the Kazekage and the Tsuchikage, introducing them to the person that inspired Gaara into who he is now.
As for Itachi knowing about Konoha acknowledging Naruto now, even if the whole village didn't acknowledge him until he defeated Nagato, he was already acknowledged and admired by a lot of Shinoby and some Citizens, in other words, he had friends, and I consider that already was enough to say Konoha does. Itachi also spent some time with Nagato before they met up with Naruto, I'm sure Itachi asked him "so... how did you die?" and this answered (well, you know this kid Naruto From your village?..."
Even if what he said wasn't really that special, Itachi's speech + first smile ever = inmensely badass
If it was Naruto, then why did Masashi hid the fact it was him? He would have posted Naruto with the message saying: The Heroes, or Tailed beasts, have come to the rescue!
And wonder if Kabuto could revive Jiraiya... or the 4th like Orochimaru once intended? There are more Rasengan users afterall.
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Eliseo Wrote:And wonder if Kabuto could revive Jiraiya... or the 4th like Orochimaru once intended? There are more Rasengan users afterall.
Kabuto said himself he couldn't revive Jiraiya. And the fourth along with the other Hokages are sealed within the Death God thus making it impossible to revive them.
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:Kabuto said himself he couldn't revive Jiraiya. And the fourth along with the other Hokages are sealed within the Death God thus making it impossible to revive them.
Speaking of then, when Orochimaru tried bringing back the 1st and 2nd Hokages, he tried to bring back someone else, but I can't remember who he was trying too that scared the 3rd Hokage. Still, I don't think its Naruto. Konohamaru most likely then.
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Eliseo Wrote:Speaking of then, when Orochimaru tried bringing back the 1st and 2nd Hokages, he tried to bring back someone else, but I can't remember who he was trying too that scared the 3rd Hokage.
People assumed that it was the 4th Hokage, but as we later found out since his soul was sealed it would be impossible to do so.
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Eliseo Wrote:Speaking of then, when Orochimaru tried bringing back the 1st and 2nd Hokages, he tried to bring back someone else, but I can't remember who he was trying too that scared the 3rd Hokage. Still, I don't think its Naruto. Konohamaru most likely then.
They believe it's naruto's mother.
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:People assumed that it was the 4th Hokage, but as we later found out since his soul was sealed it would be impossible to do so. Which would explain why the summoning failed. Yes, it was played off as the third putting his hands together somehow magically did something about it, but now that we know how the 4th died, it's much more likely that it failed only because of the death god sealing.
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Lozmaster Wrote:Which would explain why the summoning failed. Yes, it was played off as the third putting his hands together somehow magically did something about it, but now that we know how the 4th died, it's much more likely that it failed only because of the death god sealing.
No. The summon failed because the 3rd avoided Orochimaru to summon. And well, this guy could also be the card Kabuto has. I mean, it scared the ... out of the 3rd.
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Lozmaster Wrote:Which would explain why the summoning failed. Yes, it was played off as the third putting his hands together somehow magically did something about it, but now that we know how the 4th died, it's much more likely that it failed only because of the death god sealing.
No, it was stopped because the third stopped it. It wasn't just him magically putting his hands together. Plus, surely Orochimaru would have known he couldn't summon Minato.
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:No, it was stopped because the third stopped it. It wasn't just him magically putting his hands together. Plus, surely Orochimaru would have known he couldn't summon Minato.
Why would orochimaru have known he couldn't summon Minato? Orochimaru left before minato became hokage, Minato either invented the demon god seal or slightly less likely, learnt it from kushina, though that has never even been hinted at, and how would you ever know that you couldn't summon someone who had died because of the Demon god seal?
Your argument is that a jutsu that is forbidden, and only used by 2 people EVER (edo tenseiby oro and the second hokage) would have been common knowledge that he couldn't use it to summon a person that died due to being killed by the demon god sealing, which only 2 people have ever been said to have ever used, and The third hokage was still alive at that point. And then theres the blatant fact that before the third used Demon god sealing against him , the third made a point that he was going to use a technique that Orochimaru had NEVER HEARD OF.
There is no feasible way orochimaru could know he couldn't have summoned the 4th hokage before trying it.
Edit: Even better, maybe you'd like it from the horses mouth?
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/520/11
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I'm pretty sure Ochochimaru tried anyway...And that he did try to summon Minato and failed.
If it's Jiraiya which I don't think it is I'd be so fucking excited. Jiraiya was a monster.
I know that one of his trump cards is Madara's brother but I don't see how that would help him vs. Itachi...
What if he summons Orochimaru!!!
And whoever said Rasengan was Kushina's, you blew my mind.
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Lozmaster Wrote:Why would orochimaru have known he couldn't summon Minato? Orochimaru left before minato became hokage, Minato either invented the demon god seal or slightly less likely, learnt it from kushina, though that has never even been hinted at, and how would you ever know that you couldn't summon someone who had died because of the Demon god seal?
Your argument is that a jutsu that is forbidden, and only used by 2 people EVER (edo tenseiby oro and the second hokage) would have been common knowledge that he couldn't use it to summon a person that died due to being killed by the demon god sealing, which only 2 people have ever been said to have ever used, and The third hokage was still alive at that point. And then theres the blatant fact that before the third used Demon god sealing against him , the third made a point that he was going to use a technique that Orochimaru had NEVER HEARD OF.
There is no feasible way orochimaru could know he couldn't have summoned the 4th hokage before trying it.
Dude... wtp. Orochimaru knew enough about Konoha to attack it. He was a sannin, an excellent ninja, with many servants under his control. He surely Knew about the 4th Hokage being dead. And besides, Orochimaru came ready, he knew who he would summon. I wouldn't go facing a HOKAGE without knowing my stuff first. Minato knew the technice, orochimaru, the third, the second, and later on Kabuto. Orochimaru could also have tried it before.
Your argument of he not knowing is just... wrong. The final person that he tried to summon remains a mystery though, unless it's the same one Kabuto wants to summon.
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Eliseo Wrote:Dude... wtp. Orochimaru knew enough about Konoha to attack it. He was a sannin, an excellent ninja, with many servants under his control. He surely Knew about the 4th Hokage being dead. And besides, Orochimaru came ready, he knew who he would summon. I wouldn't go facing a HOKAGE without knowing my stuff first. Minato knew the technice, orochimaru, the third, the second, and later on Kabuto. Orochimaru could also have tried it before.
Your argument of he not knowing is just... wrong. The final person that he tried to summon remains a mystery though, unless it's the same one Kabuto wants to summon.
Once again, you're wrong.
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/520/11
And again, the third hokage said out loud to orochimaru that HE HAD NEVER HEARD OF THE TECHNIQUE THAT THE 3RD WAS ABOUT TO USE ON HIM. Him being dead WASN'T THE PROBLEM. It was his method of death that stopped him being summoned  . Feel free to go and read that chapter again, but you're looking stupid saying that orochimaru would know all the in's and outs of a technique only 2 people have ever used or knew about. Especially when the manga also says it was the 4th hokage in that coffin.
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Lozmaster Wrote:Why would orochimaru have known he couldn't summon Minato? Orochimaru left before minato became hokage, Minato either invented the demon god seal or slightly less likely, learnt it from kushina, though that has never even been hinted at, and how would you ever know that you couldn't summon someone who had died because of the Demon god seal?
Your argument is that a jutsu that is forbidden, and only used by 2 people EVER (edo tenseiby oro and the second hokage) would have been common knowledge that he couldn't use it to summon a person that died due to being killed by the demon god sealing, which only 2 people have ever been said to have ever used, and The third hokage was still alive at that point. And then theres the blatant fact that before the third used Demon god sealing against him , the third made a point that he was going to use a technique that Orochimaru had NEVER HEARD OF.
There is no feasible way orochimaru could know he couldn't have summoned the 4th hokage before trying it.
Edit: Even better, maybe you'd like it from the horses mouth?
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/520/11
I get what you are saying and yes, I read that page you posted, but I still have some doubts. Mainly the fact that the 3rd Hokage knew that the 4th had sealed his soul away and considering he (the 3rd) used the same Demon Soul Technique to seal the 1st and 2nd hokages away, I find it strange that the 3rd would have to make an attempt to stop the summoning of the 4th, when the 3rd already knew the 4th could not be summoned. I find more likely that it was someone else, judging by the 3rd's reaction.
Anyways, I think that person in the last page of the latest chapter is probably Konohamaru because if it was simply Naruto, the page wouldn't have been drawn in such a suspenseful way and nobody else that is alive besides the two of them knows the rasengan. Also Gaara's reaction kind of gives it away that it is probably someone he has seen before.
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Lozmaster Wrote:Once again, you're wrong.
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/520/11
How am I wrong? The attempt to summon the 4th wasn't at the time he fought the third Hokage. Of course he would try, previously, before fighting him. It's not a one use techinque. He found out before fighting him, thats sure.
The third Hokage stopped Orochimaru using his own ninjutsu, not with magic. From another summon that wasn't the 4th, and still scared the 3rd.
EDIT: I have to agree with OB3LISK and CrazyForDex, something that also proves I'm right. Why would the 3rd try to stop it if he knew well about both jutsus, and he care enough to stop the summon.
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CrazyForDex Wrote:I get what you are saying and yes, I read that page you posted, but I still have some doubts. Mainly the fact that the 3rd Hokage knew that the 4th had sealed his soul away and considering he (the 3rd) used the same Demon Soul Technique to seal the 1st and 2nd hokages away, I find it strange that the 3rd would have to make an attempt to stop the summoning of the 4th, when the 3rd already knew the 4th could not be summoned. I find more likely that it was someone else, judging by the 3rd's reaction.
Again, until somone tried summoning someone who died from the death god seal, nobody, not the 3rd and not orochimaru would know it would fail. The third hokage didn't know that the method of death meant hte 4th couldn't be summoned, and neither did orochimaru. Considering the 4th hokage was the only person to have died in that manner at that point in time, nobody could have possibly known what would happen.
Eliseo Wrote:How am I wrong? The attempt to summon the 4th wasn't at the time he fought the third Hokage. Of course he would try, previously, before fighting him. It's not a one use techinque. He found out before fighting him, thats sure.
The third Hokage stopped Orochimaru using his own ninjutsu, not with magic. From another summon that wasn't the 4th, and still scared the 3rd.
It blatantly shows the scene where oro summoned the first and 2nds in that same panel that it says the 4th couldn't be summoned. Are you seriously arguing that wasn't what he tried to summon?
Quote:EDIT: I have to agree with OB3LISK and CrazyForDex, something that also proves I'm right. Why would the 3rd try to stop it if he knew well about both jutsus, and he care enough to stop the summon.
Feel free to show me how anyone would have known what the results of trying to summon someone from the death gods belly would have been before the VERY FIRST ATTEMPT AT EVER DOING IT.
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Eliseo Wrote:How am I wrong? The attempt to summon the 4th wasn't at the time he fought the third Hokage. If you find a source that proves that orochimaru attempted summoning the 4th prior to that fight, do show us. Else that's your own homemade version, i'll be sticking with canon. He tried to summon the 4th and failed due to the soul being sealed away, IIRC the 4th tomb even said "4th" or so.
there's even a picture of the FIGHT WITH THE THIRD on the page you were linked to. What time would he else be talking about?..
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