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kimicatdemon Wrote:Alright, regarding the whole Cygnus thing with me, someone mentioned it, and I think it may make some sense. The Von Leon story seems to imply that the knights and Cygnus herself has been around for awhile, so we don't know Cygnus's actual age/power.
And with neinheart and Aran: Neinheart gave up on the heroes years ago. he does not believe in them. When Aran approached Neinheart with the message, Neinheart did not even know his name. Of course he's going to not trust some stranger with information that seems a little threatening. He later says he did some research and admits his fears were unfounded. My guess is that between receiving the letter and talking to Aran again, Neinheart spoke with Tru (Seeing how the letter was from Lilin, and thus Rien, but it doesn't look like he even bothers to keep in touch with her. He can remain on a much more professional level speaking with Tru, someone who sells information, then having to deal with a sister he has probably never said hi to since he left.) And ONLY THEN realized who Aran was, which after that, he even stated that he may end up having to join forces with Aran. He becomes much more accepting upon learning this, so I think his initial behavior was just an honest misunderstanding of Aran's identity to him.
I guess you're right. Still, I find it odd that he would completely forget his entire religion, and the face and name of the man that's (to him) tortured his tribe since they existed. He's done a lot of questionable things, this Neinheart. I'd like to think he's on the good side, but I just don't know...
You make a good point though. He left his old life behind.
I'd really like to know how he ended up as right hand man to the Empress though. That may open up a lot...
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Blunderr Wrote:I guess you're right. Still, I find it odd that he would completely forget his entire religion, and the face and name of the man that's (to him) tortured his tribe since they existed. He's done a lot of questionable things, this Neinheart. I'd like to think he's on the good side, but I just don't know...
You make a good point though. He left his old life behind.
I'd really like to know how he ended up as right hand man to the Empress though. That may open up a lot...
That's something I would like to know too. His job doesn't seem like something you can just apply for, so he probably had some inside connection of some value. I am hoping Nexon decides to go into this one day.
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kimicatdemon Wrote:That's something I would like to know too. His job doesn't seem like something you can just apply for, so he probably had some inside connection of some value. I am hoping Nexon decides to go into this one day.
Neinheart is essentially the commander of the biggest army in the Maple World. The Chief Knights report to him. Yes, Empress Cygnus is technically his superior and holds final authority, but almost never uses that power (save in a few cases, incl. Mercedes). He has to have done something to warrant being one of the most powerful people in the world.
Apparently, his full name is actually Neinheart Von Rubistein, which suggests that he might have known Von Leon before they went to opposite sides.
Also, apparently a baritone.
Name means No heart, but in MSEA, is known as Nineheart, which may suggest some association with the Nine Spirit's Egg.
Kimicat, you seem to have done a LOT of stuff about Neinheart.
Like several deviantart drawings, and are in the thread on the Nexon Forums about him.
Obsessed, much?
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Raul Wrote:Neinheart is essentially the commander of the biggest army in the Maple World. The Chief Knights report to him. Yes, Empress Cygnus is technically his superior and holds final authority, but almost never uses that power (save in a few cases, incl. Mercedes). He has to have done something to warrant being one of the most powerful people in the world.
Apparently, his full name is actually Neinheart Von Rubistein, which suggests that he might have known Von Leon before they went to opposite sides.
Also, apparently a baritone.
Name means No heart, but in MSEA, is known as Nineheart, which may suggest some association with the Nine Spirit's Egg.
Kimicat, you seem to have done a LOT of stuff about Neinheart.
Like several deviantart drawings, and are in the thread on the Nexon Forums about him.
Obsessed, much?
Yes.... very much so... I am doodling him around right now. Problem?
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kimicatdemon Wrote:Yes.... very much so... I am doodling him around right now. Problem? 
no.
glad we have an expert.
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I just lurk around for every tad bit of information ever. I find his character to have the potential to be something awesome. And I may also like the fact that he's an honest jerk. That part humors me to no end.
regardless, I'm hardly an expert. Just a fan of his character.
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kimicatdemon Wrote:I just lurk around for every tad bit of information ever. I find his character to have the potential to be something awesome. And I may also like the fact that he's an honest jerk. That part humors me to no end.
regardless, I'm hardly an expert. Just a fan of his character.
pretty nice to see I'm not the only fan of a npc... oh well...
mmm sorry if it is kinda of topic question or something... but are the cygnus like the main line of the story of maple? :f6:
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I always found the sheer number of people who mistook Neinheart for a girl amusing.
Also, I think he's one of those intellectual types. He doesn't look like he'd fare too well in hand-to-hand, but I could be wrong.
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danielcatu Wrote:pretty nice to see I'm not the only fan of a npc... oh well...
mmm sorry if it is kinda of topic question or something... but are the cygnus like the main line of the story of maple? :f6:
Who are you a fan of?
And no, it doesn't really seem like it.
They're basically the enforcers when pomegranate gets out of control. Even then, they only come in occasionally (see: Edelstein). They are the one and only true "Maple Army," but they're relatively new on the scene after floating around for a while.
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Haseo Wrote:I always found the sheer number of people who mistook Neinheart for a girl amusing.
Also, I think he's one of those intellectual types. He doesn't look like he'd fare too well in hand-to-hand, but I could be wrong.
I dunno... Some people can pull off a pretty nice battle look for him if they try.
that and the fact that the "Cygnus Falls" story calls him a warrior, and he seems to know a certain extent of polearm skills (given that he used to teach Full Swing prior to chaos.)
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Haseo Wrote:I always found the sheer number of people who mistook Neinheart for a girl amusing.
This is slightly off-topic, so bear with me: For the life of me, I always thought that Jade in El Nath was a girl. After reading some quest text, I found out that it was a "he". I guess some NPCs in this game just give off an effeminate look. Neinheart included.
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Isn't the Orbis PQ about the Maple Goddess? Perhaps Orbis and the Temple of Time were at one time connected?
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Shadefurt Wrote:Isn't the Orbis PQ about the Maple Goddess? Perhaps Orbis and the Temple of Time were at one time connected?
It's about a goddess, I don't remember any specification of WHICH goddess.
But come on, how many goddesses are there in Maple?
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Raul Wrote:It's about a goddess, I don't remember any specification of WHICH goddess.
But come on, how many goddesses are there in Maple?
Minerva
Cygnus
Goddess of Time (Was her name Rhinne or something?)
I think that's it.
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Raul Wrote:Who are you a fan of? Irena I keep trying to understand what is the relation between eagle eye and irena... but as you can see she dont have much info like other characters
Raul Wrote:And no, it doesn't really seem like it.
They're basically the enforcers when pomegranate gets out of control. Even then, they only come in occasionally (see: Edelstein). They are the one and only true "Maple Army," but they're relatively new on the scene after floating around for a while.
ooh I see...
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Hanabira.Kage Wrote:Minerva
Cygnus
Goddess of Time (Was her name Rhinne or something?)
I think that's it.
Oh right, we're saving Minerva in OPQ.
And Cygnus is now a goddess?
...news to me.
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Raul Wrote:Oh right, we're saving Minerva in OPQ.
And Cygnus is now a goddess?
...news to me.
She isn't? I'm pretty sure one of the quests refer to her as "the young goddess".
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I completely forgot about Minerva. Wonder if the goddesses are connected somehow?
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AltCtrlDlt Wrote:I guess some NPCs in this game just give off an effeminate look. Neinheart included.
Do you happen to wear glasses? I don't mean to insult you or anything but to think Neinheart gives off an effeminate look has to be due to eye problems or something.
While ToT advancements seem interesting I am still waiting on more Ellin Forest. D=
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:Do you happen to wear glasses? I don't mean to insult you or anything but to think Neinheart gives off an effeminate look has to be due to eye problems or something.
While ToT advancements seem interesting I am still waiting on more Ellin Forest. D=
Could be connected.
Y'know, Ellin Forest is in the moments pretty soon after when we think it might bring us too if it's to the past, which it might not be.
If it's to the present, it'll be shudder-worthy, considering what's happened in the ToT.
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