Which shoulder pad...

is in the highest demand? the luk one? or dex?

This depends on server demographics, but intuitively I'd say the dex one since four out of the five classes use dex in some way.

This depends on server demographics, but intuitively I'd say the dex one since four out of the five classes use dex in some way.

Agreed^
However it also might depend on the what level you make. For some reason in servers like Mardia, the level 110 Shoulder sells for 1b, and the Level 120 Shoulders sell for 600-800m, and the Level 130 sell for 1.2b. However those are only with Luk and Dex. I have yet to see an Int or Str one being sold.

Dex will always be, Luk will be for a while, but drop down as Jump! happens.
Don't see why Str isn't in high demand, though.
I'd think after you got your 160 dex for your 130 gear, your equips would be self-sustaining, and you'd switch to a Str one.
Just my thoughts.

Agreed^
However it also might depend on the what level you make. For some reason in servers like Mardia, the level 110 Shoulder sells for 1b, and the Level 120 Shoulders sell for 600-800m, and the Level 130 sell for 1.2b. However those are only with Luk and Dex. I have yet to see an Int or Str one being sold.

Where'd the 130 dex come from?

I haven't even seen a single recipe for any of the Lvl 130 shoulder pads... so I just made the Lvl 120 one instead.

Where'd the 130 dex come from?

Level 130

bleve, I don't see why.
Luk drops from Gigantic Spirit Viking, Dex from Royal Guard, and Str from Advanced Knight A. Int seems not to drop at all (or for anyone on SP, at least).
Those places aren't all that common, however.

I've hunted at Royal Guards for well over 12 hours on 2x/4x/8x without seeing a single shoulder recipe, and my friend has done close to 15 hours at gigs with no luck, either. We (as well as White) have been wondering if maybe there is another place they drop at.

That drop table on SP is based off of the list created by Jay(?) on Ellinforest. I was thinking the 130 recipe's were added into the drop tables in a later patch, although we are probably just unlucky.

I've hunted at Royal Guards for well over 12 hours on 2x/4x/8x without seeing a single shoulder recipe, and my friend has done close to 15 hours at gigs with no luck, either. We (as well as White) have been wondering if maybe there is another place they drop at.

That drop table on SP is based off of the list created by Jay(?) on Ellinforest. I was thinking the 130 recipe's were added into the drop tables in a later patch, although we are probably just unlucky.

I think they're just really really rare. They're definitely in the data.

I think they're just really really rare. They're definitely in the data.

Drops are server side. That list was made by EllinForest and kms is actually different from gms. I have strong doubts that the dark angelic ring drops from Chief Memory Guardians, just as I have super strong doubts that adamantium hearts drop from Master Death Teddies. You know how many hackers bot at MDT's for abrs? In my experience, at least 10 channels, 24/7. Yet even though i've seen hundreds of abr's, I have yet to see a single adamantium heart or adamantium recipe.

I'd be shocked if that drop list is actually completely accurate for GMS. Completely shocked.

Drops are server side. That list was made by EllinForest and kms is actually different from gms. I have strong doubts that the dark angelic ring drops from Chief Memory Guardians, just as I have super strong doubts that adamantium hearts drop from Master Death Teddies. You know how many hackers bot at MDT's for abrs? In my experience, at least 10 channels, 24/7. Yet even though i've seen hundreds of abr's, I have yet to see a single adamantium heart or adamantium recipe.

I'd be shocked if that drop list is actually completely accurate for GMS. Completely shocked.

Drops from gMS are always, always, always, always, always imported from kMS.

Just because you spend hours on it not dropping doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That list has been accurate the whole time and I doubt it'll stop. It's rare, I get it. The level 120 and 130 have barely any difference anyway.

As far as I know with the level 130 Shoulder Recipes, I don't know for sure where they came from. The two people who asked me to make the Shoulders said they bought them in the FM. So it could be from Royal Guards/Gigantic Spirit Vikings as listed on the Drop List, or I think they could have even come from PvP Mystery Recipe.

Luk seems to sell for a Lot
I put up a 120 LUK one for 1.4b in my shops a few nights ago to take offers, and to my surprise, it was sold the next morning

Drops from gMS are always, always, always, always, always imported from kMS.

Just because you spend hours on it not dropping doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That list has been accurate the whole time and I doubt it'll stop. It's rare, I get it. The level 120 and 130 have barely any difference anyway.

I know botters that have botted nonstop at chief mem guardians for days, nearly a week nonstop and not recieved a dabr. I know that there are botters that bot nonstop at mdts and i've never seen an adamatium heart recipe. I'm going to say you're wrong. In 31 days of 24 hours a day botting, there is no excuse for 0 adamantium heart recipes. There is none. MDT's do NOT drop that recipe. Not right now anyway, and that's all there is to it.

If you continue to insist that MDT's do drop it, go find one. Right now though, it's speculation and it's unfounded. That said, if MDT's don't drop adamantium heart recipes, or hearts, then there is equal reason to bring suspicion against any other unconfirmed recipe on that list. Such as the dabr, or the 130 shoulderpads.

Hmm. I might keep making 120 str pads for money. One 120 pad aside from my personal one would be more than enough money to cover getting to level 9 jeweler.

I am pretty sure chief memory guardians drop nothing I've been there for 2 weeks on 2xs drop. I have hardly seen a equip drop let alone a recipe. My guess would be the person who found dabr found it from an eye of time more likely than a chief.

Eye of Time's have been getting killed just the same as the chief memory guardians. I know that Chief memory guards do drop a purple bear pendant recipe and both of the listed earring recipes from my own time trying to farm them. No Dabr though. Never heard of one dropping there either. The list isn't accurate, NexAM made some changes, just as they did with the events.

I know botters that have botted nonstop at chief mem guardians for days, nearly a week nonstop and not recieved a dabr. I know that there are botters that bot nonstop at mdts and i've never seen an adamatium heart recipe. I'm going to say you're wrong. In 31 days of 24 hours a day botting, there is no excuse for 0 adamantium heart recipes. There is none. MDT's do NOT drop that recipe. Not right now anyway, and that's all there is to it.

If you continue to insist that MDT's do drop it, go find one. Right now though, it's speculation and it's unfounded. That said, if MDT's don't drop adamantium heart recipes, or hearts, then there is equal reason to bring suspicion against any other unconfirmed recipe on that list. Such as the dabr, or the 130 shoulderpads.

I think it might just be an extremely rare drop at MDT's. However I am not completely certain for I have never seen the Recipe drop from MDT's before. I can say that the Adamantium Heart Recipe does drop from something. I asked the person where they found the recipe and the typical response is "Fm". If you're wondering why the person who crafted it is different from the person I whisped, its because its the same person but on a different character.

I haven't even seen a single recipe for any of the Lvl 130 shoulder pads... so I just made the Lvl 120 one instead.

Just bought one in the FM for 20m. I was like O.o Now I just need the emblems and 1 more level to craft it.

Just bought one in the FM for 20m. I was like O.o Now I just need the emblems and 1 more level to craft it.

In Bellocan? Which class? Are you the person who got the 130 bowman one? D:<