What you think about PvP so far?

Why would the 180+'s play a mode that has very few people trying to do it, and is completely based on how much money you've thrown away on cubes? No, 120+ is the 4th jobber s one and you need to deal with it. If its so imbalanced, and you don't want to deal with it, just leave the room.

I'm here voicing MY opinion on PvP, theres no need to be rude you know.

When I played in KMS, they literally had no skill delay in PvP. Really amazing.
They also have a different death animation


Except me.
I had really bad latency.
Really really bad.

I saw you doing Ani before

I think it's fun, but all of the skill delays that NA gave Dual Blades is absolutely pissing me off. I see everyone spamming their little hearts out, but in the time I can use two Phantom Blows in PvP I could have probably gotten four out in PvE. They need to stop trying to do own balancing and just leave what KMS did alone.

Trust me, the lag is not an action of Nexon America trying to balance things...

It's not lag, every dual blade I know has the same delay between their Phantom Blows as me. There's no reason for a Hero's Brave Slash to be faster than it.

With interaction I obviously referred to the physical client interaction on gameplay.

I caught that. He didn't.

We're only stating some basic facts what's wrong about this PvP system, there is nothing wrong with stating facts on the internet! Also, opinions are welcome here!

Incorrect.
You were stating facts about the PvP system as it is now.
Combattente was posting an opinion that there should be no PvP ever.

I have no problem with facts, in fact, I quite enjoy them. Nonsensical opinions are not facts.

I think it's fun, but all of the skill delays that NA gave Dual Blades is absolutely pissing me off. I see everyone spamming their little hearts out, but in the time I can use two Phantom Blows in PvP I could have probably gotten four out in PvE. They need to stop trying to do own balancing and just leave what KMS did alone.

I don't believe GMS has changed PvP at all.
Any changes from the original PvP were done in KMS first.

It's not lag, every dual blade I know has the same delay between their Phantom Blows as me. There's no reason for a Hero's Brave Slash to be faster than it.

Hmmmmm, so you're saying that this lag/delay is intentional and that Hero's / DK's and mages can spam their skills normally, was intented by Nexon?

Orrrrrrrr, did they do a Nexon America, for forget to implement skill delays in -ALL- classes... that would explain a lot, since it NA we're talking about here... :+)

Hmmmmm, so you're saying that this lag/delay is intentional and that Hero's / DK's and mages can spam their skills normally, was intented by Nexon?

Orrrrrrrr, did they do a Nexon America, for forget to implement skill delays in -ALL- classes... that would explain a lot, since it NA we're talking about here... :+)

How many times do we have to say that every skill has around 1500ms-3000msdelay and it's intentional.

I fail to see a delay in the BaM combo thing or most of the warrior attacks that weren't like that in PvE. BB is just as spammable as always as well.

How many times do we have to say that every skill has around 1500ms-3000msdelay and it's intentional.

Is this devil we're talking about? Try another 1000 times.

How many times do we have to say that every skill has around 1500ms-3000msdelay and it's intentional.

What's the point of weapon speeds if skills have huge delays?

Also, when I first played on my NL, TT didn't seem to have a delay. Only other skills (drain in particular was like 20 seconds). Of course, when nobody's lagging, they're harder to hit, cause they can FJ/Tele away just as easily as you can attack them.

What's the point of weapon speeds if skills have huge delays?

Also, when I first played on my NL, TT didn't seem to have a delay. Only other skills (drain in particular was like 20 seconds). Of course, when nobody's lagging, they're harder to hit, cause they can FJ/Tele away just as easily as you can attack them.

If I had blast w/o slow delays everyone would be dead very very fast.

warrior rush and magnet also have a pretty big delay, obviously on purpose, it would be hilarious (as in, veery bad) if i could magnet->fury->magnet a mage (and anything nearby) to death

Freaking hackers/botters in every game I go into tonight. I refuse to play in a game with them. I wish more people were on this late.

I like the way you say you completely agree with him, then take out of his post something he never even said.
Kinda sounds like you have no idea what he was saying.

Let's compare:



Non sequitur a go go!

He says not to give the client the work load, and you get out of that "let's make the game no longer multiplayer."
And that is what you said. After all, multiplayer games are impossible without syncing player actions.

It was late, and I just forgot to write a word. Stop making a fuss for something so stupid. You really have nothing else to do in your free time, do you?

Even ignoring that dribble, you are in no place to say what should and should not exist in Maplestory.
Your only option is to choose whether or not to participate in certain content.
Saying it should be taken out is just plain stupid.

That's just my opinion, and I'm free to express it whenever and wherever I like.

Also, tell me WHERE I've ever said that it should be taken out.

Probably people talked about PvP in Maple so much that eventually developers decided to make it to make a big part of the population happy and to give an alternative to grinding, but it should've never existed in a game like MapleStory.

[SIZE="5"]it should've never existed in a game like MapleStory[/SIZE]

Apparently, it's you who is reading posts wrong, since I just said it shouldn't have been released AT ALL.

Non sequitur a go go!

With interaction I obviously referred to the physical client interaction on gameplay.

I caught that. He didn't.

Ya wrong, chap. I perfectly got what he meant.

Apparently, it's you who is reading posts wrong, since I just said it shouldn't have been released AT ALL.

Non sequitur a go go!

No, I read it quite correctly.

However, PvP already does exist. Therefore, wishing it out of existence would be an silly endeavor reserved only for would-be magicians and schizophrenics.
I trust that you are neither, so I logically concluded that your wishes for it not to exist would then turn to wishing it was removed.
After all, you can do nothing about what has been, but you can do something about something that is.

Meanwhile, your claim that you simply forgot a word does not change the fact that the sentences surrounding that alleged misphrasing are not at all logically connected to it. A faulty method of implementing a system does not mean that that system should not exist.
Therefore, I still believe that you did, in fact, not get what he meant.
Chap. Pal. Buddy. Bro.

Ps. You may want to get your own catch-phrase or at least use one that is appropriate for the situation.

However, PvP already does exist. Therefore, wishing it out of existence would be an silly endeavor reserved only for would-be magicians and schizophrenics.
I trust that you are neither, so I logically concluded that your wishes for it not to exist would then turn to wishing it was removed.
After all, you can do nothing about what has been, but you can do something about something that is.

This distinction is something you will find uncannily hard for many people to grasp. Prepare to deal with that.

Then I guess the Mechanics from Europe are fcked because of the lag (Nexon Epic Fail programming... as usual) because I can only shoot like 3 Siege shots in 5 seconds and only 8x Tank Cannon per 10 seconds...

Aka, Europeans can only do 20% of the damage Californian players can do... lol... 80% damage nerf...

Nexon, please go back to basic game programming lessons part 1? Never client sync player interaction in multiplayer games...

Only sync your server with server based data...

Even QuakeWorld worked like this... that is 1996... 15 years ago mkay? :S

How on earth am I ever supposed to get that lvl30 armor stuff from PvP? I'm not even thinking about lvl30+ items, because of the lag that will take me like 2 years... :/

Edit:
ROFL, my Shadower is even worse, 1x Bstep per 3 seconds!

"LOL, dude, just play more games, you are just not skilled enuf with playing your class in pvp. Don't blame lag if u suck, sorry but it's true. I have no problems and I am like 1st or 2nd every game xD."

^Typical answer

No, I read it quite correctly.

However, PvP already does exist. Therefore, wishing it out of existence would be an silly endeavor reserved only for would-be magicians and schizophrenics.
I trust that you are neither, so I logically concluded that your wishes for it not to exist would then turn to wishing it was removed.

Wrong. Wishing for it to be removed would be even sillier. You know, they hardly ever removed any previously-released content (excluding events), and if they did, it was because of its unpopularity. Seeing how popular PvP is (and is probably going to be, even if other better areas where you can gain more EXP get released, because, as I'll say again, PvP is an idea which is generally accepted and liked by the player population), I doubt it's ever going to be removed. It'd be really stupid to assume that, too.

Meanwhile, your claim that you simply forgot a word does not change the fact that the sentences surrounding that alleged misphrasing are not at all logically connected to it. A faulty method of implementing a system does not mean that that system should not exist.
Therefore, I still believe that you did, in fact, not get what he meant.

So, according to you, I didn't get what he meant just because the sentences surrounding that one were "not logically connected to it" (they were just other observations) and because I said that PvP should've never existed?

Your logic, about which you brag so much, is not as impeccable as you want to make us believe.

Wrong. Wishing for it to be removed would be even sillier. You know, they hardly ever removed any previously-released content (excluding events), and if they did, it was because of its unpopularity. Seeing how popular PvP is (and is probably going to be, even if other better areas where you can gain more EXP get released, because, as I'll say again, PvP is an idea which is generally accepted and liked by the player population), I doubt it's ever going to be removed. It'd be really stupid to assume that, too.

Hey, octopusprime! You were pineappleing right!

So, according to you, I didn't get what he meant just because the sentences surrounding that one were "not logically connected to it" (they were just other observations) and because I said that PvP should've never existed?

Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.
You said you completely agreed with him then followed with a sentence saying PvP shouldn't be in Maple.

Your logic, about which you brag so much, is not as impeccable as you want to make us believe.

You know what? It's rather dangerous to make such statements like that.
Know why? Because here's where I challenge you to show a single post where I brag about my logic.

It shouldn't be hard. I mean, after all, it's something over "which (I) brag so much".
Surely you should have handfuls of examples.

Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.

You said you completely agreed with him then followed with a sentence saying PvP shouldn't be in Maple.

That's because it's badly-coded, and, knowing them, they probably wouldn't be able to do better. I'd rather not have it at all than have it as it is right now.

You know what? It's rather dangerous to make such statements like that.
Know why? Because here's where I challenge you to show a single post where I brag about my logic.

It shouldn't be hard. I mean, after all, it's something over "which (I) brag so much".
Surely you should have handfuls of examples.

I'm so sorry, I didn't mean that you brag about it. You just seem to like it so much, since you pointed out what, according to you, wasn't logically connected in my posts. But apparently you still fail at it.

Anyways, I'm going to quit this. You seem to have way too much time on your hands, but luckily I have other things to do in life as well, other than get mad at stupid things. You can keep doing that with someone else.