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By Darkmaniak's request: Anivia countering Amumu's ult initiation dot lrf.
Somewhere around 30:00, GP walks into the bush and finds the enemy team there, then shyt hits the fan.



What? o.O

According to my friend, he played karthus yesterday and noticed his lay waste was doing less damage than it usually does. Apparently the ratio got nerfed when he hovered over the tooltip.

Saw this posted on riot forums, couldn't help but laugh.

[video=youtube;aZEdRIroZE4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZEdRIroZE4[/video]
It was a response and he said "To whoever said Leona is UP"

Gonna try to play Sion now that I have a few other champs under control. Any suggestions on builds?

Gonna try to play Sion now that I have a few other champs under control. Any suggestions on builds?

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I've always thought that DPS Sion is better, never seen a good AP one, all they do is blow their shield up on your face then wait for cooldown, I think DPS has the same use of the stun, a better use of the ult and a better use of the rage skill that grows HP.

I'm still debating whether I should get Leona or not, I've been reading about her on forums, also checking her abilities. So far she looks like a lame version of Amumu, with borrowed skills from other tanks, that were taken down a little. This is what I see:

Q-on hit stun. A high CD version of Udyr's bear, without speed bonus, although her E fixes that. The stun timer is really short, and with merc threads it becomes less than a second. I honestly think that this is a really weak cc, and I can think of 10 stuns better than her's (Udyr, Sion, Taric, Alistar, Annie, Irelia, Pantheon, Renekton, Veigar...)

W-A pretty lame shield, it has less defense than Galio's and Rammus's shields, and they both have better effects than the little extra damage she gets from it after 3 seconds, she can't even trigger it like Sion, and also her AP ratio is horrible on this skill. (Look at Sion, the AP ratio for the damage is 1.)

E-It's like Bandage toss with shorter range but slightly better utility. I haven't got much to say about this, haven't seen it used well, so I won't talk about it, but I think it's not that great.

R-It's like a weak version of Amumu's ult, the AP ratio is worse, it's not like you're building AP but it is worse, it might be ranged but you're supposed to be in the middle of the fight anyway. Also, the time of the stun is only 1.5 secs while Amumu's has a bigger range, a full stun range and it stuns for 2.5 seconds. The cooldown on Leona's is shorter but it's not like you'll use it twice in a teamfight.

Q. The problem with comparing it to Udyr, is that Udyr doesn't have a gap closer to land that stun. Same with Alistar. I'll have to concede that the other players you mentioned have a better stun, though.

W. I have to concede that to you there.

E. It is like bandage toss, actually. I think I'll compare it more to Irelia's. A gap closer with a short stun followed by your Q stun, which stuns a target much longer than Amumu's bandage toss. At earlier levels, though, it also has a much less cooldown.

R. Her cooldown on R is ridiculous. 75 seconds at max level. Compare that to Amumu's 130! That's almost 2x less! You'll be able to use this a lot, lot, more.

I think you're comparing each of her skills to the "best" of every champion. However, Leona has no move that is the best move in the game. What Leona brings is a queen (yes, I didn't say jack on purpose) of all trades to the table as a tank, with shorter cooldowns on a lot of her skills.

I appologize if I forgot to be "away" and some people invited me.

Q. The problem with comparing it to Udyr, is that Udyr doesn't have a gap closer to land that stun. Same with Alistar. I'll have to concede that the other players you mentioned have a better stun, though.

W. I have to concede that to you there.

E. It is like bandage toss, actually. I think I'll compare it more to Irelia's. A gap closer with a short stun followed by your Q stun, which stuns a target much longer than Amumu's bandage toss. At earlier levels, though, it also has a much less cooldown.

R. Her cooldown on R is ridiculous. 75 seconds at max level. Compare that to Amumu's 130! That's almost 2x less! You'll be able to use this a lot, lot, more.

I think you're comparing each of her skills to the "best" of every champion. However, Leona has no move that is the best move in the game. What Leona brings is a queen (yes, I didn't say jack on purpose) of all trades to the table as a tank, with shorter cooldowns on a lot of her skills.

Both udyr and Alistar have gap closers, Udyr's extra speed on bear makes enables his stun, and Alistar can headbutt stun if you've played him more than twice.

I must say I've had better experiences with Leona's after that post, and I'm still judging her since she's a new champion.

 Playing Leona for the first time in a normal game

So I decided to bring out Leona in a normal game. Laned with Corki, and went against a Nidalee and an enemy Leona. I managed to snatch first blood, while Corki took the 2nd kill.

We were doing well overall, though we had a few scary moments. We pushed all lanes, and pretty much won almost every fight we were in.

All I gotta say is....she has very solid initiation skills, and is very balanced overall. She could be buffed a bit later on (though I'm not expecting it).

At this moment, I will probably have to play her a bit more before bringing her to ranked matches.

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A bit more info about Leona's skills after playing her the second time, in terms of how you can use the skills to do other things beyond its intended purposes....

Q (Shield of Daybreak): After playing a second time, not only can you combo this skill with Zenith Blade for 2+ second CC on your target, you can use it to push towers a bit (however, hold your horses; based on my experience, its only decent at doing so, but better than nothing). However, if you had thought of proccing Sheen or Trinity Force effects with Shield of Daybreak, sorry to burst your bubble, but those items have been proven to not be compatible with Leona.

W (Eclipse): Once you have higher ranks of Eclipse, use it to farm up creep waves. Deals a lot of damage to them too! It somewhat solves the farming problem she has.

E (Zenith Blade): Obviously, learn how to aim and hit the skillshot. However, do use this carefully because this skill will usually send you TPing to the last champion you hit (you'll likely hit a squishy). In other words: Know when to use it, you don't want to initiate a fight too early.

R (Solar Flare): Since this skill has a short effective radius, it is best to use it on high-value targets (squishies and whatnot). Of course, if enemies are clustered together, that's a good opportunity to drop it on them. However, the range in which you can cast Solar Flare is quite large.

According to my friend, he played karthus yesterday and noticed his lay waste was doing less damage than it usually does. Apparently the ratio got nerfed when he hovered over the tooltip.

That was simply a tooltip error that got corrected. The actual nerf was from numerous patches ago according to a rioter, everyone thought it was a stealth nerf before that though.

Sion can go both ways. AP Sion is much, much better early/mid game while AD Sion is a monster late game (100% Life Steal + Ridiculous damage).

Had a long game with Kajitii, Ressic, and....was it Spiegelmann? Can't remember.

Kajitii actually fed Akali 2 kills in mid (gasp). Then Ressic fed Akali a kill. Then I fed her a kill (tank as mid =D).

We managed to last like 40 minutes.

Tried soraka for the first time, she's really fun and really helps the team, I guess it's another addition to my supports, I've found that I really enjoy support chars.

Tried soraka for the first time, she's really fun and really helps the team, I guess it's another addition to my supports, I've found that I really enjoy support chars.

And ranked will rip any desire to play support right out of you.

Yes, we did.
It was clearly too cryptic.

It was a "shen's shield sucks now giv old one" joke.

Had a long game with Kajitii, Ressic, and....was it Spiegelmann? Can't remember.

Kajitii actually fed Akali 2 kills in mid (gasp). Then Ressic fed Akali a kill. Then I fed her a kill (tank as mid =D).

It was BobChican. Spiegelmann is kinda an elitist, lol xD

Overall, the coordination in that game was pretty crappy, and Jarvan was doing bad things.

And ranked will rip any desire to play support right out of you.

Nah, I first-picked Soraka like a baws and carried the team.

Well, not really, but we still won handily. The amount of CC the other team had was ridiculous compared to ours. Soraka, Malzahar, Miss Fortune, Irelia, Mordekaiser vs. Kennen, Amumu, Ezreal, Blitzcrank, Lee Sin. Fortunately my heals were OP (they were an AoE comp), and MF had some wicked sick ults.

And ranked will rip any desire to play support right out of you.

Support are awesome in ranked!

 A game with Kaj + LoL University peeps

I somewhat guessed at the beginning - in my mind - that the people Kaj brought in was his "students" from LoL University (Kaj later confirmed that to me).

Anyways, the beginning was pretty bad. We were behind a bit, with only a few kills. Then we just somehow started coming back via teamfights. Me and Kaj started to rack up a number of kills

During the mid-game portion of the match, there was 10 minutes where everyone on both sides wasn't doing much. It was all farming and barely any teamfights.

But that was soon to end; we got Baron during that time, and we started just pushing like crazy. Though we lost a teamfight, it didn't matter. We were still able to take an inhibitor, and that soon became two, then three inhibitors.

The thing that was funny was whenever the other team tried to start a fight with us in their base, I would - on impulse - go on Bear Stance and stun a nearby squishy, then watch Kaj quickly vomit on him. That, and similar sh'it in previous teamfights was how he got so many kills, lol. It was nice to know we protected our carry nicely.

Nah, I first-picked Soraka like a baws and carried the team.

Support are awesome in ranked!

Supporting for bads is like tanking for bads, it blows.

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 A game with Kaj + LoL University peeps

I somewhat guessed at the beginning - in my mind - that the people Kaj brought in was his "students" from LoL University (Kaj later confirmed that to me).

I never said they were my students. I just said that they were from LoL U. Way to assume things >_>

(but I still did introduce xInfiniteJustice to LoL U, but he's not quite my student.)

But that was soon to end; we got Baron during that time, and we started just pushing like crazy. Though we lost a teamfight, it didn't matter. We were still able to take an inhibitor, and that soon became two, then three inhibitors.

If you can chill inside their base, if you can't kill them, what you should do is destroy the creeps that are going to the lanes that haven't pushed all the way into their base. When you deprive a lane of creeps, your creeps will just continue to push the tower and not waste any DPS on other creeps.

Getting tired of all these leonas building ap/ad. It's costing me the game because they become useless.

Getting tired of all these leonas building ap/ad. It's costing me the game because they become useless.

lol l0l \o/ \0\

One of my friends plays Leona, and he's a mean tank Leona xD

Had a game where the other team built 4 tanky champs and a Koggles. Feggot Koggles was getting fed, but at the cost of his meat shields. Mordekaiser died a total of 11 times, with the vast majority of his deaths being the results of running afoul of wards or Heimerdinger's turrets. To show how much they respect us DPS carries (Ashe + Teemo), the other team got a total of two GAs, two Frozen Hearts (whoops?), and three Thornmails. Thank jebus there was a Soraka on our team, or we probably would have been toast. We just busted out the Last Whispers and lifesteal in exchange xD