Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread

So it's a buffed Feint?

Feint is an actual shield skill.

Eclipse just raises your Armor and MR for a duration.

I'm still debating whether I should get Leona or not, I've been reading about her on forums, also checking her abilities. So far she looks like a lame version of Amumu, with borrowed skills from other tanks, that were taken down a little. This is what I see:

Q-on hit stun. A high CD version of Udyr's bear, without speed bonus, although her E fixes that. The stun timer is really short, and with merc threads it becomes less than a second. I honestly think that this is a really weak cc, and I can think of 10 stuns better than her's (Udyr, Sion, Taric, Alistar, Annie, Irelia, Pantheon, Renekton, Veigar...)

W-A pretty lame shield, it has less defense than Galio's and Rammus's shields, and they both have better effects than the little extra damage she gets from it after 3 seconds, she can't even trigger it like Sion, and also her AP ratio is horrible on this skill. (Look at Sion, the AP ratio for the damage is 1.)

E-It's like Bandage toss with shorter range but slightly better utility. I haven't got much to say about this, haven't seen it used well, so I won't talk about it, but I think it's not that great.

R-It's like a weak version of Amumu's ult, the AP ratio is worse, it's not like you're building AP but it is worse, it might be ranged but you're supposed to be in the middle of the fight anyway. Also, the time of the stun is only 1.5 secs while Amumu's has a bigger range, a full stun range and it stuns for 2.5 seconds. The cooldown on Leona's is shorter but it's not like you'll use it twice in a teamfight.

But amumu ult isnt a stun, its a snare/disarm iirc.

Edit: Checked, I am correct.

Kaj, do you recommend a full, complete uninstall/reinstall of the LoL client?

Edit: can anyone help me? =(

So it's a buffed Feint?

They're different type of shields. Feint absorbs damage, like lux's barrier, or Lee Sin's. Leona's shield buffs defense, it can be compared to galio's or rammus. it also deals point blank AoE damage, like Sion's.

But amumu ult isnt a stun, its a snare/disarm iirc.

Edit: Checked, I am correct.

I honestly don't know the difference between Snare and Stun. I know that a Root (Lux, Morgana, swain) just keeps in you in your place and you can use skills/Auto attack. But with Amumu's ult they can't do anything.

Edit:

Had a nice experience with a Leona, so I'm not sure about her still, everything I said in my previous post was based of skill info and Riot forum threads, so I'm still debating if she's good or not.

Here's the replay, worth watching cause she did pretty good, she missed some ults but it didn't matter much. I also did a nice job as Udyr, carried the team, even if I made some mistakes.
http://localhostr.com/file/QJJY9hi/repla...-29-46.lrf

They're different type of shields. Feint absorbs damage, like lux's barrier, or Lee Sin's. Leona's shield buffs defense, it can be compared to galio's or rammus. it also deals point blank AoE damage, like Sion's.




I honestly don't know the difference between Snare and Stun. I know that a Root (Lux, Morgana, swain) just keeps in you in your place and you can use skills/Auto attack. But with Amumu's ult they can't do anything.

Edit:

Had a nice experience with a Leona, so I'm not sure about her still, everything I said in my previous post was based of skill info and Riot forum threads, so I'm still debating if she's good or not.

Here's the replay, worth watching cause she did pretty good, she missed some ults but it didn't matter much. I also did a nice job as Udyr, carried the team, even if I made some mistakes.
http://localhostr.com/file/QJJY9hi/repla...-29-46.lrf

Snare/Root: cant move/blink
Silence: can't cast spells/use summoner skills other than cleanse
Disarm (thats the DotA term, I don't think LoL has one yet): Can't attack

Stun: Snare+Silence+Disarm
Ammumu ult does not silence.

Not sure if you can use items while silenced (not including qss ofc)

Secret nerfs to karthus ftw.

Udyr's been bumped to "God Tier" in Jungling. HE'S TOO STRONG!

I also how how the ban meta went from Tanks -> DPS -> Junglers within a few months

By Darkmaniak's request: Anivia countering Amumu's ult initiation dot lrf.
Somewhere around 30:00, GP walks into the bush and finds the enemy team there, then shyt hits the fan.

Secret nerfs to karthus ftw.

What? o.O

Udyr's been bumped to "God Tier" in Jungling. HE'S TOO STRONG!

I also how how the ban meta went from Tanks -> DPS -> Junglers within a few months

Expected/10. When Udyr was buffed a bit a little while back, I thought he became much more solid than he used to. In fact, I thought while playing him post-buffs he had, perhaps, became a Tier 1-class jungler after the buffs were applied. He can clear out jungle at a much faster rate now (IMO, from firsthand experience, post-buff Phoenix Stance is the way to go early-game jungling simply because it deals more damage now) AND at a much lower mana cost, can absorb jungle creep damage easily via Turtle Stance's shield + lifesteal. Udyr is now able to sustain himself much better in the jungle than ever before.

And adding on to that, every time I jungle with him (with dodge masteries and dodge runes), I would have 2-3 HP pots left by the time I was done with my route, and still have over 70% or more HP left due to Turtle Stance damage absorption and lifesteal, plus me dodging a good number of jungle creep autoattacks.

In fact, I read Stonewall's blog just yesterday, and he was mentioning that he could move Udyr to Tier 1 if he didn't get nerfed in the next patch in any other way or form. In other words, Udyr was at a crossroads, the tipping point - in Stonewall's point of view.

 Soooo

Should I try completely uninstalling and reinstalling LoL to fix the huge-ass problem I'm having? =(

By Darkmaniak's request: Anivia countering Amumu's ult initiation dot lrf.
Somewhere around 30:00, GP walks into the bush and finds the enemy team there, then shyt hits the fan.



What? o.O

Nice, you learn something new everyday. I think this is the first time I've ever seen someone use a spell on his ult, even after I've played amumu so much, probably over 50 games with him!

For those of us without the replay thing. What did he do to amumu?

Update:

Did a complete uninstall/reinstall overnight. Just tested a custom game, I was able to get in after champion selection. But I don't know if I should try it now on a Co-Op vs AI game. I'm afraid it might bork up once more. =(

Edit: Kaj - I now have the r3dlogs. Apparently something in the LoL files was preventing it from being written before I did housecleaning.

Nice, you learn something new everyday. I think this is the first time I've ever seen someone use a spell on his ult, even after I've played amumu so much, probably over 50 games with him!

Knowledge is power. Also, if you take the time to read the buff/debuff tooltips, it actually says these things xD

"Curse of the Sad Mummy: This unit is unable to move or attack, and is taking damage over the duration." Or something like that.

For those of us without the replay thing. What did he do to amumu?

Is it so hard to download the replay program? It can help improve your game =P

http://www.leaguereplays.com/download/

Feint is an actual shield skill.

Eclipse just raises your Armor and MR for a duration.

So it's a buffed Feint.

Topic for #leagueoflegends is: LEONA PASSIVE + SUNFIRE CAPES + EXECUTIONER'S CALLINGS = ALL SUNLIGHT, ALL THE TIME | [23:16:19] <Naiad> btw sunlight damage scales 20, 20, 35, 35, 50, 50, 65, 65, 80, 80, 95, 95, 110, 110, 125, 125, 140, 140

So it's a buffed Feint.

Topic for #leagueoflegends is: LEONA PASSIVE + SUNFIRE CAPES + EXECUTIONER'S CALLINGS = ALL SUNLIGHT, ALL THE TIME | [23:16:19] <Naiad> btw sunlight damage scales 20, 20, 35, 35, 50, 50, 65, 65, 80, 80, 95, 95, 110, 110, 125, 125, 140, 140

I thought jarvan shield was buffed feint

I thought jarvan shield was buffed feint

...you guys missed the joke.

...you guys missed the joke.

Yes, we did.
It was clearly too cryptic.

Even with a score of 1/0/9 on Janna i can still lose :x

Team was asleep and never came to baron when i cved the other team there. We shut down their Jungle Shaco so hard but the team fed the lanes.. Yorick hurts now :/

Jarvan was pinging nothing and talking french and then left lol. What you get when you play EU i suppose.

I was able to play Leona in a Co-Op vs AI just now.

IMO, very solid tank, though like any tanks I played before, gotta watch how much mana you use. Her shield makes her extremely tanky while its on.

Though her ultimate has a limited radius, and is only good for CCing the enemy team (the 85% slow is insane, I must say), not for burst damage. Best way to use it is to wait until you're heavily focused (hopefully, still able to use your abilities) before dropping it; you want to CC as many enemies as you can.

I was able to play Leona in a Co-Op vs AI just now.

IMO, very solid tank, though like any tanks I played before, gotta watch how much mana you use. Her shield makes her extremely tanky while its on.

Though her ultimate has a small radius, and is only good for CCing the enemy team (the 85% slow is insane, I must say), not for dropping damage.

Lux/Leona lane vs Blitz/Leona.

My leona would initiate on the blitz and i couldnt even help cos the other leona wud just do the same on me and id get killed lol :l