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Retalion Wrote:So...if I bought a hair membership coupon, then I can gain charm unlimitedly?... I suggested that in another thread. kMS doesn't have those so I doubt gMS made a counter-measure for it.
Lyrics Wrote:I wish there were other ways to gain charm...
Scar helms don't give charm? The hell...
That's because kMS doesn't have Malaysia
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Retalion Wrote:So...if I bought a hair membership coupon, then I can gain charm unlimitedly?...
Yes, but membership coupons were removed around the time we got the Dynamic Hair medal.
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Hey guys, do you have a headstart character or a character that has yet to do the Subani's Legacy quest?
I ask because this morning, I had my headstart character do the quest for a 60% Glove ATK scroll before I deleted the character. But I swear I got a charm bonus from that quest as well. Not that much, I think it was something like 5. Or some sort of bonus. Can someone go double check that when they go pick up their Glove ATK scroll?
Also, do we have any data on any potential changes to CWKPQ yet? I'm particularly wondering if the bosses give out Ambition and/or Willpower EXP, and if bonus still drops the usual mastery books instead of all of them being replaced by secret books. Consdering that Nexon went through and placed Profession-related stuff all around Masteria, I don't think that it's that much of a stretch to think that something may have happened to CWKPQ as well.
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Alilatias Wrote:I had my headstart character do the quest for a 60% Glove ATK scroll before I deleted the character.
Oh my pineapple why I haven't thought of that?
Alilatias Wrote:Do we have any data on any potential changes to CWKPQ yet?
As soon as Maple stops crashing, I'll get some info on that.
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Alloy Wrote:EDIT:
Well, Right now I have 510 total ambition. I only played today, so it means the last chimera I killed made me go from 476 to 510. Yet now, killing more won't give me more, obviously. So... Whenever I'm near 490 Ambition, I'm gonna turn in those quests that give around 500 exp on that 
It does not go over the cap, so you got 10 more ambition from that being the basis (maybe). I just tested this; I was at 440 before Zak (which gives +275) and it stopped at 500. Ditto with Willpower.
Edit: On a second attempt, it actually DOES go over but does not show more than 500/500. It simply applies to the total. 9 Levis (to 484 willpower) + 1 Zak puts you at 759 daily, not bad.
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Hey look, extra datapoints on exp for leveling by nexon.
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iFrancisco Wrote:It does not go over the cap, so you got 10 more ambition from that being the basis (maybe). I just tested this; I was at 440 before Zak (which gives +275) and it stopped at 500. Ditto with Willpower.
Edit: On a second attempt, it actually DOES go over but does not show more than 500/500. It simply applies to the total. 9 Levis (to 484 willpower) + 1 Zak puts you at 759 daily, not bad.
Indeed!
I actually reached lv 10 willpower in a single day thanks to that quest that gives 400 in one sitting.
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Alright, I made an Excel out of boredom. It covers pretty much all the exp to next level for the traits. Both the exp per level and total. Just fill in the exp needed for each level, Excel adds them all up. It even has a fancy graphic to see how the curve changes.
Here it is!
Tell me if you find any problem with it.
Oh, also, I busted your table, too, sorry. Line 31 or 32, not sure, has a wrong addition, apparently.
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Finally! I found the formula!
It is a recurrence relation with a round after every step. The experience E for level n is E(n) = Round[E(n-1) * c], with E(0) = 20 and c=1.3 for 1≤n≤9, c=1.1 for 10≤n≤19, c=1.03 for 20≤n≤29, c=1.01 for 30≤n≤69 and c=1.003 for 70≤n≤99.
No wonder I couldn't find a nice exponential, at level 56 it has been rounded 55 times.
How I calculated c=1.003 for 70≤n≤99? I had 2 data points at high levels: lvl 80 = 1381 exp (from Nexon) and lvl 96 = 1445 (from the picture showing lvl 100 is the cap). To find c (assuming c didn't change between 80 and 96), I calculated (1445/1381)^(1/16) = 1.0028. Nexon likes round numbers, so c=1.003. Then I calculated all possible places where c could change resulting in E(80)=1381, and the result was n=70. Tadaa
Now if we continue the table, we get:
[SIZE="1"]PS: Lvl 69 has 1337 exp. Coincidence? F3[/SIZE]
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Nice work! I'll try to update my Excel and post the graphic then.
Yokuyin Wrote:[SIZE="1"]PS: Lvl 69 has 1337 exp. Coincidence? F3[/SIZE]
I think not.
EDIT: Here it is. Updated Excel, with the curve shown. It takes 93592 exp to level from 0 to 100 any personality trait, by the way. Feel free to find any mistakes or anything on the exp of each level, because the total exp takes the data from those.
EDIT V2.0: Oh snap, apparently it's a total of 93596 exp for lv 100. The lv 99 line has 1453 exp instead of 1457, the correct amount. Change that manually, and all it'll fit in place.
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I can confirm +4 Insight for "Reveal hidden potential (Lvl 0-30)".
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So... about 6 months of 500 exp everyday to get to max level.
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Not sure if its been mentioned, but Evolution Rings give 5 Diligence each. I have 10 diligence right now before profession is out...5 from each evo ring.
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Retalion Wrote:Not sure if its been mentioned, but Evolution Rings give 5 Diligence each. I have 10 diligence right now before profession is out...5 from each evo ring. My guildie has 2 evo rings on his BM, and only has 5 diligence.
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I think the "Hands" stat on Medals give diligence. When I take off my Family Loyalty Medal my diligence goes down.
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Retalion Wrote:Not sure if its been mentioned, but Evolution Rings give 5 Diligence each. I have 10 diligence right now before profession is out...5 from each evo ring.
This confuses me as to how dilligence works tho. If it's not like charm exp that remains even after you unequip the stuff, then in theory switching rings or whatever else gives dilligence could delevel it?
And I have another question if anyone knows. Is the "double mastery chance" effect from dilligence referring to the chance on passing mastery books or some % on higher attacks because of weapon masteries?
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Joe.2 Wrote:This confuses me as to how dilligence works tho. If it's not like charm exp that remains even after you unequip the stuff, then in theory switching rings or whatever else gives dilligence could delevel it?
And I have another question if anyone knows. Is the "double mastery chance" effect from dilligence referring to the chance on passing mastery books or some % on higher attacks because of weapon masteries? Diligence is sort of different because it is the same as the Hands stat.
And no, the boost from Diligence is for the experience that you get when you make something.
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Joe.2 Wrote:This confuses me as to how dilligence works tho. If it's not like charm exp that remains even after you unequip the stuff, then in theory switching rings or whatever else gives dilligence could delevel it?
And I have another question if anyone knows. Is the "double mastery chance" effect from dilligence referring to the chance on passing mastery books or some % on higher attacks because of weapon masteries?
I've been wondering about the 2nd half too, as I want as high of a chance to pass MW 30 as I can, seeing how expensive it is.
As for the first half, I equipped my family medal as Chamelionic mentioned, and I noticed that my diligence went up to level 1, but it said 10/26 instead of leveling up or anything..Whatever that means. I guess we'll hafta wait for profession to test things like this out.
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Are your "bonus" tables complete? Or are they lacking information.
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