Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread

Had a REALLY close game. 3 members on my team are at their nexus whaling on it, then then its at 33% toey win cause of TF ):/

So there's this retard on mobafire who keeps on saying "stfu I'm right Last Whisperer is always better than The Black Cleaver because all the pros use it" and I'm actually wondering if I should believe him, since I usually build The Black Cleaver first >_>.

Solomid is down for some reason so for some input?

So there's this retard on mobafire who keeps on saying "stfu I'm right Last Whisperer is always better than The Black Cleaver because all the pros use it" and I'm actually wondering if I should believe him, since I usually build The Black Cleaver first >_>.

Solomid is down for some reason so for some input?

Last Whisperer is only good against champs with a heavy armor presence (think tanky champs). Black Cleaver, though, is great against pretty much anyone with light armor or no armor at all.

Whatever that nub says is just a bunch of trash.

 Break-even points between Black Cleaver and Last Whisperer

Black Cleaver: Good against light-armored champs and squishies with less than 110-115 armor

Last Whisperer: Better than Black Cleaver if the target has above 120 armor. At that point, targets that have 120 armor on them have at least 50% physical damage mitigation.

Had a REALLY close game. 3 members on my team are at their nexus whaling on it, then then its at 33% toey win cause of TF ):/

And now you know why TF is the best freaking champion in the game and the most banned champion as well.

Last Whisperer is only good against champs with a heavy armor presence (think tanky champs). Black Cleaver, though, is great against pretty much anyone with light armor or no armor at all.

Whatever that nub says is just a bunch of trash.

 Break-even points between Black Cleaver and Last Whisperer

Black Cleaver: Good against light-armored champs and squishies with less than 120 armor

Last Whisperer: Better than Black Cleaver if the target has above 120 armor. At that point, targets that have 120 armor on them have 50% damage mitigation.

Yeah, I agree with you for that, but what worries me is that he claims all the guides on solomid use the Last Whisperer over the Black Cleaver. Which is extremely worrying. And I can't check it right now.

Last Whisperer is only good against champs with a heavy armor presence (think tanky champs). Black Cleaver, though, is great against pretty much anyone with light armor or no armor at all.

Whatever that nub says is just a bunch of trash.

 Break-even points between Black Cleaver and Last Whisperer

Black Cleaver: Good against light-armored champs and squishies with less than 110-115 armor

Last Whisperer: Better than Black Cleaver if the target has above 120 armor. At that point, targets that have 120 armor on them have at least 50% physical damage mitigation.

Unless you're panth. Yoou will never get the stacks in on time.

Oh man Galio is fun.

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Best part was when I hit level 6 and after my laning partner died I ulted beside my turret and popped Fortify and scored a double kill.

Glad to see another Fortify user. Fortify double kills while soloing a lane are the greatest feeling ever.

Yeah, I agree with you for that, but what worries me is that he claims all the guides on solomid use the Last Whisperer over the Black Cleaver. Which is extremely worrying. And I can't check it right now.

Cleaver synergizes better with attack speed.

Cleaver= for characters that mainly autoattack and whos skills aren't bursty physical damage
LW= for characters like panth who scale with arpen and whatnot because of their skills. Chars like cait use LW fairly well.

Champion Sneak Peek – Yorick, the Gravedigger

Incoming "Necromancer" type champion.

Champion Sneak Peek – Yorick, the Gravedigger

Incoming "Necromancer" type champion.

Nice.

I believe I simply CAN'T use AD ranged champions, only one I don't suck with (don't read "can play" it's a don't suck) is Cait, but I've tried most of the rest and suck.
Ashe? SUCK MF? SUCK Corki? SUCK Tristana? SUCK I might do a little with Ez but it's same category as Cait.

I don't get it though, I can play Teemo greatly and he has short range dps...

I normally play amumu but I'm loving galio at the moment. Tanky character with decent damage and a fairly large range that can harass pretty well.

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This was a 4v5 game for my team because my friend that was our carry DC'd half way through. Lucky for us the other team was all AD and I just stocked up on def items and they couldn't put a dent in me.

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The other team's ashe DC'd for the first 15mins or so but we had a Yi on our team who died like 8 times in the first 10 minutes, had an odd combination of summoner spells for a master yi, and the opposing team kept ganking our lanes. We managed to pull off a victory after dominating in team fights though when they didn't take yi seriously and he farmed up

My creep score is pretty low because I laned with a buddy who last hits like a beast and I can't compete with him .

You should try building more MR depending on their team since it'll greatly increase your damage. Obviously you should get armor to counter dps and whatnot, but I find thornmail is usually enough with your ult to keep dps out of a fight, even if they dodge the damaging hit. Also, investing in a deathcap mid-late game greatly increases the effect of MR on your ap.

Abyssal scepter and zhonya's hourglass work very well on him.

So i have this relationship with trundle... i guess its a love-hate thing, but i dont hate him, unless its secretly and i dont actually know that i hate him. Every time i play him its so much fun and i have a great W/L with him too, but ill play him once then not even acknowledge that he exist for a week or two. Other than that, i think ima try and play a bunch of corki this week while he is free and see if i can get the hang of him before i buy him and then end up sucking with him. A couple weeks ago when i was talking about ken and swain, never bought either of those, so im getting close to 10k IP now, i only play a game or two a day if that so IP farm takes me a while. Swain i might buy him, had a blast when he was free and put up some really good scores with him. Ken is out of the picture, hated playing him. If one day i decide i really hate myself, ill buy vlad and just poop on people left and right, but i would really have to hate myself to play him.

I dunno what it is, but i suck at the more traditional ap and ad carries for the most part, if you can even classify many champs as that. I can play ashe and do well and ive done decently with MF when she was free but other than that, im not so good with ranged ad. I can win lanes with annie, but cant team fight with her. I can play ryze, but who cant F3. I dunno, maybe i should just stick with jungle/melee/support. I should play more alistar tho, love him.

/end pointless mumbling

So i have this relationship with trundle... i guess its a love-hate thing, but i dont hate him, unless its secretly and i dont actually know that i hate him. Every time i play him its so much fun and i have a great W/L with him too, but ill play him once then not even acknowledge that he exist for a week or two. Other than that, i think ima try and play a bunch of corki this week while he is free and see if i can get the hang of him before i buy him and then end up sucking with him. A couple weeks ago when i was talking about ken and swain, never bought either of those, so im getting close to 10k IP now, i only play a game or two a day if that so IP farm takes me a while. Swain i might buy him, had a blast when he was free and put up some really good scores with him. Ken is out of the picture, hated playing him. If one day i decide i really hate myself, ill buy vlad and just poop on people left and right, but i would really have to hate myself to play him.

I dunno what it is, but i suck at the more traditional ap and ad carries for the most part, if you can even classify many champs as that. I can play ashe and do well and ive done decently with MF when she was free but other than that, im not so good with ranged ad. I can win lanes with annie, but cant team fight with her. I can play ryze, but who cant F3. I dunno, maybe i should just stick with jungle/melee/support. I should play more alistar tho, love him.

/end pointless mumbling

From what I've seen with Corki, based on observing my friend using him, is that you have to pretty much make use of all of his skills. If used right, he is not an easy champ to gank. You can blind people with Q and do ranged facechecking in brushes with it also. His W makes him an escape master, as well as allowing him to close him for the kill. His E gives you the ability for sustained damage and stacking armor reduction for a period of time. Make use of his missiles for burst damage, though don't be too disappointed if you miss frequently.

Comboing W, E, and his R correctly will yield you kills if you do it right.

So i have this relationship with trundle... i guess its a love-hate thing, but i dont hate him, unless its secretly and i dont actually know that i hate him. Every time i play him its so much fun and i have a great W/L with him too, but ill play him once then not even acknowledge that he exist for a week or two. Other than that, i think ima try and play a bunch of corki this week while he is free and see if i can get the hang of him before i buy him and then end up sucking with him. A couple weeks ago when i was talking about ken and swain, never bought either of those, so im getting close to 10k IP now, i only play a game or two a day if that so IP farm takes me a while. Swain i might buy him, had a blast when he was free and put up some really good scores with him. Ken is out of the picture, hated playing him. If one day i decide i really hate myself, ill buy vlad and just poop on people left and right, but i would really have to hate myself to play him.

I dunno what it is, but i suck at the more traditional ap and ad carries for the most part, if you can even classify many champs as that. I can play ashe and do well and ive done decently with MF when she was free but other than that, im not so good with ranged ad. I can win lanes with annie, but cant team fight with her. I can play ryze, but who cant F3. I dunno, maybe i should just stick with jungle/melee/support. I should play more alistar tho, love him.

/end pointless mumbling

I have the exact same problem with Trundle, although I think it's partially to the fact that I need to dedicate a runepage to him for jungling...and I've only got three runepages. >:

I still love playing trundle. His jungle is so fun. Played him a few times this week, actually.

Played against Trynd mid just now... It's shitty to deal with if he has Crit runes. I fed a bit early game and then I got a few kills, snowballed, and single handedly got a Quadra kill against some slightly weakened opponents.

I have no idea how I won - I had a 2/11 AP Gangplank on my team and a Teemo who stacked pure AS items but with no AD or AP or any kind of on-hit effects. :S

 Finally...I was about to go nuts

I queued with a friend of mines not knowing the shi't that we might head into. Turns out this game was a good one. Though what was sad was that Xin and Kat were at top, and for some reason they never left top. They kept - as Nunu bot said - PUSH PUSH PUSH PUSH PUSH top. They were like bots, tbh. Their actions were so predictable that when we saw them, we went to gank their asses.

I did well early, but I got caught out of position a few times. I started getting back into the groove again by nailing kills with teammate support. And downing towers whenever I could. Their TF got so mad at the top bot-like peeps he ragequitted. Eventually, we got Baron. While I was pushing top after Baron, Cass went in first on the Kat/Xin pair, but she got killed in 1v2. But that bought me enough time to get in position, turn on my Spray and Pray + Expunge and kill them in a 1v2 fight, and killed them. 2 minutes later, we wrecked their Nexus.