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I don't even think there's a solution to ban all the exploiters and not wrongfully ban anyone. If Nexon just had GMs that worked on Weekends (GOOD GMs) then thing would be totally different. They should just hire programmers just to find exploits, they need that really bad. But Nexon won't do it...I know they won't....Lol

There is a solution to ban exploiters and not ban innocents, but Nexon most likely won't take that path since Nexon never came up with the right solution for anything in the past. When we needed rollbacks, they weren't given out. When we needed GMs to patrol the game, it wasn't done. Instead, they pump out stupid counter measurements (like meso bags for the aftermath of meso exploits).

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but they did that already D: They just haven't gotten it back yet...

There is a solution to ban exploiters and not ban innocents, but Nexon most likely won't take that path since Nexon never came up with the right solution for anything in the past. When we needed rollbacks, they weren't given out. When we needed GMs to patrol the game, it wasn't done. Instead, they pump out stupid counter measurements (like meso bags for the aftermath of meso exploits).

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holy pomegranate that face, HNNGGGHHHHH.....

The thing is, they make money off those websites and script kiddies, so I doubt they'll be shutting them down completely any time soon.

Until one day something really bad happens and Nexon will wish they did something.

There is a solution to ban exploiters and not ban innocents, but Nexon most likely won't take that path since Nexon never came up with the right solution for anything in the past. When we needed rollbacks, they weren't given out. When we needed GMs to patrol the game, it wasn't done. Instead, they pump out stupid counter measurements (like meso bags for the aftermath of meso exploits).

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After protection Scrolls...... Anything is Possible. Nothing else will surprise me. Unless they do something actually good for the game.

Whoops My bad...

Two things Nexon needs to do
1. RB the fucking game
2. Shut down the MTS FOREVER! The goddamn thing is causing more problems than good with all the hackers / dupers abusing the pomegranate out of it.

selling cs stuff in stores is also out of the question can just crash and dupe massive cubes etc etc

STOP GIVING IDEAS

selling cs stuff in stores is also out of the question can just crash and dupe massive cubes etc etc

CS is fine as is, they need to make NX work like meso, being able to be used as currency, and get rid of the hacker's cove (aka MTS)

however, i am no expert in duping, i think i know the gist of it, but i have to ask, is it possible to dupe mesos instead of items? if so, then forget i said anything about nx working like mesos >.<

CS is fine as is, they need to make NX work like meso, being able to be used as currency, and get rid of the hacker's cove (aka MTS)

however, i am no expert in duping, i think i know the gist of it, but i have to ask, is it possible to dupe mesos instead of items? if so, then forget i said anything about nx working like mesos >.<

Actually yeah there was, with the Meso Guard Exploit. But Nexon jumped right on it after it went public. Lol

Lol, the MG exploit was flat out silly. So simple yet so game breaking.

OT: I'm not entirely sure how a RB can't occur this time. It seems stupid not to at this point. s;

OT: I'm not entirely sure how a RB can't occur this time. It seems stupid not to at this point. s;

Nexon never rolls back unless mesos are directly involved.

Actually yeah there was, with the Meso Guard Exploit. But Nexon jumped right on it after it went public. Lol

meso exploit shouldn't affect NX, since they come from different sources, should be like trying to get WS's from the perion store, not possible.
what i was wondering is if the method used for duping items, also works with meso. because if it did, then NX could get duped.

@beg: afaik the MTS doesn't rollback, which means that everybody getting a rollback would lose 2+ days of training/whatever, and the hackers would just log in, and get their duped and now safe VSS's and SCG's from the MTS, and then again, we legits get owned hard.

meso exploit shouldn't affect NX, since they come from different sources, should be like trying to get WS's from the perion store, not possible.
what i was wondering is if the method used for duping items, also works with meso. because if it did, then NX could get duped.

@beg: afaik the MTS doesn't rollback, which means that everybody getting a rollback would lose 2+ days of training/whatever, and the hackers would just log in, and get their duped and now safe VSS's and SCG's from the MTS, and then again, we legits get owned hard.

Just because they aren't deleted doesn't mean the accounts are safe. Last time mass dupe happened even though the VSS dupers didn't get banned, a lot of people with the duped VSSes were perma'd for having it.

From what I've heard they dupe using shop permits and either sell off or store the items in the MTS for safe keepings.

I mean for the players. What I mean is if someone has multiple SCGS legitly they could be banned if you go off how many items you have.

And other rebuttals.

At this point, I don't care who gets roped into the ban net. Send a clear and forceful message, "If you have even an inkling that this item may be duped, do not go anywhere near it." Nexon has taken 2 years to clear up problems before, they can take that long if they want to to shuffle through all the bans and tickets they'll get for implementing this.

In fact, I'll take this one step further:
1. Make the announcement above.
2. Purposely release an item that would be clearly duped and non-MTSable and easily identifiable, let's say a store full of 25ATT SCG with some unique potential (10% All-Stat or whatever) into the FM of all the worlds.
3. Ban everyone for a month or two who purchases the item or posses the item (in case mules are used to buy).
4. Legits would undoubtedly be netted, but like I said, the announcement was made, and at this point I don't care. Send the message. SEND IT.

If item tracking were available this would be much easier, but good enough.
What about people with 25ATT SCG already? Make note of who has them in an SC beforehand, how many people is that really?
What if they recube? 25ATT SCGs are unique enough on their own and can be found on their own, Potentialling or Enhancing only prevents them from being MTSed, use them interchangably if you want.
What if they blow them up? Whatever. Meso sink.

At this point, I don't care who gets roped into the ban net. Send a clear and forceful message, "If you have even an inkling that this item may be duped, do not go anywhere near it." Nexon has taken 2 years to clear up problems before, they can take that long if they want to to shuffle through all the bans and tickets they'll get for implementing this.

In fact, I'll take this one step further:
1. Make the announcement above.
2. Purposely release an item that would be clearly duped and non-MTSable and easily identifiable, let's say a store full of 25ATT SCG with some unique potential (10% All-Stat or whatever) into the FM of all the worlds.
3. Ban everyone for a month or two who purchases the item or posses the item (in case mules are used to buy).
4. Legits would undoubtedly be netted, but like I said, the announcement was made, and at this point I don't care. Send the message. SEND IT.

If item tracking were available this would be much easier, but good enough.
What about people with 25ATT SCG already? Make note of who has them in an SC beforehand, how many people is that really?
What if they recube? 25ATT SCGs are unique enough on their own and can be found on their own, Potentialling or Enhancing only prevents them from being MTSed, use them interchangably if you want.
What if they blow them up? Whatever. Meso sink.

So you are saying Nexon puts that notice up, they put 25 ATT SCGs in the Economy, and who ever buys them should be banned because they have similar SCG? :f6: , Or they put a store full of originals and then look at who bought the originals, then look at if they duped or not?

Nexon never rolls back unless mesos are directly involved.

Hackers could dupe meso and items.

Hackers could dupe meso and items.

Trade max meso to someone -> They CC -> You crash ch -> Come back to ~4.2b meso between both characters.

Yes.

Trade max meso to someone -> They CC -> You crash ch -> Come back to ~4.2b meso between both characters.

Yes.

yep, this was what i was asking, and the method is exactly what i thought it was, guess that kills the "make NX a currency" idea.