Disgaea 4: The Promise Unforgotten

I see 100%'ing a Disgaea game as nigh impossible to begin with lol

I see 100%'ing a Disgaea game as nigh impossible to begin with lol

Bonus Story wise at least

I remember not wanting to get sucked up in Item dungeon and what not, so i rushed to the end when i was 2/3 of the game or something.

Bonus Story wise at least

I guess it depends on what you classify as "100%", because I mean I can see story mode, dark world, all r40 items, perfect items, defeating Baal and super hard Baal, and collecting every different item. Although there's no "Item gallery" in D1/D2/D3/D4, and instead it's only in the handheld versions.

100% to me is not Super Collecting everything (Unless its easy/fun to do and the game help you keep tabs on what you have collected and what not), but killing everyshit that moves and breathes (Mostly). I think opening access to the bonus areas and finish them would be at least decent for me to do i guess.

The insurrectionist of the game industry, huh? Also, I love the voice over guy they get for NIS videos. But I worry about NIS taking over the world since they obviously want everyone to own Disgaea 4.

I guess it depends on what you classify as "100%", because I mean I can see story mode, dark world, all r40 items, perfect items, defeating Baal and super hard Baal, and collecting every different item. Although there's no "Item gallery" in D1/D2/D3/D4, and instead it's only in the handheld versions.

:O?! The handhelds have an item gallery!?

Now I have to get them!

Now I have to get them!

Aren't your own spreadsheets more reliable?

Aren't your own spreadsheets more reliable?

Spreadsheets are a tangible quick reference. Having an in-game gallery allows me to gauge my completion.

:O?! The handhelds have an item gallery!?

Now I have to get them!

Essentially they have a "Record Keeper" in where it tells which items you've picked up in your game, so it at least gives you an incentive to "Collect 100% of items" if you wish to do so.
Also they give you a list of how many times you've defeated the super bosses, such as Baal, Prinny Baal, Item General/King/God, etc.

Also if you get the handheld versions, the DS version sucks ass. You're better off just sticking with the PSP versions.

I've mostly been doing Item World in low level garbage items (gum) just to see what it's all about but I decided to adventure into a level 44 sword and beat ten floors and when I came out the atk had raised to like +800 :|

I've mostly been doing Item World in low level garbage items (gum) just to see what it's all about but I decided to adventure into a level 44 sword and beat ten floors and when I came out the atk had raised to like +800 :|

Yeah, the +Stats are rather ridic per level, especially with passed "X Growth" bills. Example is Trapezohedron in Disgaea 3.

(3 non-ATK bills, 8 Gladiators)
ATK: 361,314

(3 ATK bills, 8 Gladiators)
ATK: 649,087

3 mere "ATK growth" bills renders a near 300k attack boost alone. The default attack on the upper stat is just from perfect leveling alone, and that's not taking into account max level innocents, which FURTHER increase said stat.
A fully perfect'd character in D3 can get to about 53mil in their main stat.

So you bought it and didn't even want it?

It's more of a "I want to beat 1 and 2 first" thing, and I've been chipping away at those over the past year. Plus it was on sale and I had birthday money, so...

("Beat" being getting an ending or two, I guess.)

Yeah, the +Stats are rather ridic per level, especially with passed "X Growth" bills. Example is Trapezohedron in Disgaea 3.

(3 non-ATK bills, 8 Gladiators)
ATK: 361,314

(3 ATK bills, 8 Gladiators)
ATK: 649,087

3 mere "ATK growth" bills renders a near 300k attack boost alone. The default attack on the upper stat is just from perfect leveling alone, and that's not taking into account max level innocents, which FURTHER increase said stat.
A fully perfect'd character in D3 can get to about 53mil in their main stat.

Now imagine that perfect character with a LoC magichange weapon.

Now imagine that perfect character with a LoC magichange weapon.

Even a non-perfect character can hit 99,999,999 stats with a LoC Magichange. Hell, just get a r0 Baal Axe and you instantly gain +30-50mil to all stats, although I don't think that's possible without having a dozen characters perfected out lol
My Adell only has around 13.71mil ATK and 10.04mil SPD with perfect level'd items + Violence Evilty and nothing else. If I maxed out all the needed innocents, such as Fist Fighter, Guardian, Sprinter, etc, I could get to 99mil stats with a LoC Magichange without having my Apts even close to being capped.

As much as I love Disgaea gameplay, the thing I love the most out of the trailer are the animated cutins. It made me start working on making my own prinny hat ala Fuuka style.

Even a non-perfect character can hit 99,999,999 stats with a LoC Magichange.

I have to eat my own words right here as well as toot my own horn in this post.
After doing some mass duping in D3 tonight, I just realized how easy it is to hit the stat cap on 1 or 2 stats without even touching a magichange weapon.

Upon getting a 500 Fist Fighter innocent and 256 Guardian innocent, my Adell's attack and speed jumped from
13.71mil ATK + 10.04mil SPD
to
63.00mil ATK + 47.17mil SPD
With the Violence Evility.

When I added in 8 Cheerleaders with their +Stat buffs (Lovely Song + Brave Heart), Adell's stats jumped to 99.99mil ATK and 66.05mil SPD fully buffed.

After seeing this tonight, they better increase the stat cap to 999mil or else getting max stats on a character is gonna be so freaking easy thanks to the 300 item level cap.

EDIT: Disgaea 4 Trophy list has been translated. Seems to me, getting platinum in D4 will be a lot easier this time around than it was in D3, because D3 was too RNG based with the "Item World" Pirates.

 Spoiler

全トロフィー獲得 - Obtain all other trophies
超絶ダメージ - Do over 10,000,000,000 damage
邪シンボルコレクター - Use all Evil Symbols
アイテム収集癖 - Obtain all items (grades/rarities do not matter)
界賊船パーツマニア - Obtain all pirate ship parts
キャラクター博物館 - Create all types of characters
特殊技ウォッチャー - See all special attacks
裡面制覇 - Clear all Dark World/X-Dimension maps
「修羅プリニガーⅩ・轟」撃破 - Defeat「プリニガーⅩ・轟」in Shura World
『魔界戦記ディスガイア4』へようこそ! - Watch the opening anime
新黨結成 - Clear story chapter 3
魔界統一 - Clear story chapter 7
そして後日談へ - Enter the post-game
いざ修羅の - Enter Shura World
エンディング「フェンリッヒ」 - 「フェンリッヒ」epilogue
エンディング「フーカ」 - 「フーカ」epilogue
エンディング「デスコ」 - 「デスコ」epilogue
エンディング「エミーゼル」 - 「エミーゼル」epilogue
エンディング「アルティナ」 - 「アルティナ」epilogue
エンディング「神との戦い」 - Defeat 神（自稱）and watch the ending
「アクターレ」を仲間にした - Defeat and recruit「アクターレ」in the post-game
「天使長フロン」を仲間にした - Defeat and recruit「天使長フロン」in the post-game
「ラズベリル」を仲間にした - Defeat and recruit「ラズベリル」in the post-game
「エトナ」を仲間にした - Defeat and recruit「エトナ」in the post-game
「ラハール」を仲間にした - Defeat and recruit「ラハール」in the post-game
「アサギ」を仲間にした - Defeat and recruit「アサギ」in the post-game
「プリニーカーチス」を仲間にした - Defeat and recruit「プリニーカーチス」in the post-game
「ゼタ」を仲間にした - Defeat and recruit「ゼタ」in the post-game
ドット絵が好き! - Use "classic" type of character display and win 5 battles
はじめての転生 - Reincarnate once
捕獲はじめの一歩 - Capture an enemy character by throwing it into the base panel
失敗は成功のもと - Game over
味方殺しの罪 - Defeat an ally
トレジャーハンター - Open 100 chests
暴君 - Pass a bill by force three times
誘爆注意 - 10 chains of prinny explosion
創造主 - Edit a map
初界賊行為 - Enter reverse pirate
寶探しごっこ - Collect all home base treasure chests from chapter 1 to the post-game
アイテム界にももう慣れた？ - Clear 30 floors in Item World
超お得意様 - Achieve highest shop level for Rosenqueen
光り物大好き☆ - Steal 10 rare/legend items
大ダメージ - Do over 100,000 damage
アクターレ像撃破! - Destroy an Axel statue in the Item World
レベル9999到達 - Reach level 9999
最高レベル到達! - Reach item level 300
指導好き - Use the prisoner punishment system 100 times
優柔不斷 - Cancel character actions 1,000 times in battle.
優秀な 治家 - Successfully bribe 50 times.
1 HL突破 - Accumulate 1,000,000,000 HL
界賊キラー - Defeat 100 Item World pirates

What the heck is an item level limit? Every time I go through I run into that fortune teller and he either decreases or increases the item level limit but I have no idea what it even means.

What the heck is an item level limit? Every time I go through I run into that fortune teller and he either decreases or increases the item level limit but I have no idea what it even means.

Item Level is highlighted in the red box.



This is how you level up items and make them more godlike. Level cap for items is 200 in Disgaea 3.
You acquire item levels through these 4 methods

1) Each floor you clear or skip counts as 1 level.
2) Each mystery room ambush you defeat in two turns or less grants +5 levels.
3) Each level orb you collect grants bonus item levels:
Green Level Orb (+5 Levels)
Yellow Level Orb (+10 Levels)
Red Level Orb (+15 Levels)
4) Each time you speak to the fortune teller he'll give you either:
"Terrible Luck" (-5 Levels)
"Bad Luck" (-3 Levels)
"Good Luck" (+3 Levels)
"Great Luck" (+5 Levels)

okay, so why is the DS version of Disgaea 1 crappy? because i don't have a PSP but i'd like to play it..

okay, so why is the DS version of Disgaea 1 crappy? because i don't have a PSP but i'd like to play it..

DS version has more extra content than the PSP version, it's just the DS version traded off a lot of features in return, aka lack of voicing and steady framerate (Cap is around 30 FPS instead of a smooth 60).
Of course if you don't mind the little tidbit stuff, then it hardly affects your decision to buy or not.