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Chilly Wrote:For future reference, where is the post that hypothesized these values, I can't remember if it was in "Godly Scrolled Items" or "Revealed Potential" or if it wasn't even in Scroll Lock. Bleh, should have Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V when I first ready it.
You mean this post?
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CarrionCrow Wrote:I have yet to see any real evidence of this so if you have it, please feel free to post it. I kind of doubt they negate the boom risk on normal scrolls, but that's just me.
ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:I recall reading protect shields don't guard destruction from potential scrolls. I think it's in the item description too.
CarrionCrow Wrote:And if that is correct, I'm sure it will not save us from cursed scrolls either. Infact I am willing to bet that it only works on the first 8 enhances and nothing else. spadow himself said it on his page, he even edited it to make it clear due to the huge confusion it caused.
dante9898 Wrote:If someone know korean they can translate it. there you go, there is spadow's answer
Chilly Wrote:For future reference, where is the post that hypothesized these values, I can't remember if it was in "Godly Scrolled Items" or "Revealed Potential" or if it wasn't even in Scroll Lock. Bleh, should have Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V when I first ready it.
values really aren't much of a "hypothesis" it's been proven with weapons, you'll never hear of a 149 attk weapon gaining +4, this happens loads with arcglaives, in which perfect scrolling an average one nets you 147 w.attk, if it's above avg, the first enhance has always added +3, until the weapon reached 150 or more, in such cases, +4, and seeing from magic staffs and the such, 200 and above is +5
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:2: according to the description, it doesn't, if the scroll fails, it should consume a slot from it like any other regular scroll.
Derp, not worth it, unless you have billions to blow on one item with NX shield + WS.
Guess I'll just attempt to 50% a 1h sword then...
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CarrionCrow Wrote:I have yet to see any real evidence of this so if you have it, please feel free to post it. I kind of doubt they negate the boom risk on normal scrolls, but that's just me.
ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:I recall reading protect shields don't guard destruction from potential scrolls. I think it's in the item description too.
CarrionCrow Wrote:And if that is correct, I'm sure it will not save us from cursed scrolls either. Infact I am willing to bet that it only works on the first 8 enhances and nothing else.
dante9898 Wrote:If someone know korean they can translate it.
Chilly Wrote:For future reference, where is the post that hypothesized these values, I can't remember if it was in "Godly Scrolled Items" or "Revealed Potential" or if it wasn't even in Scroll Lock. Bleh, should have Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V when I first ready it.
Dark Link Wrote:Derp, not worth it, unless you have billions to blow on one item with NX shield + WS.
Guess I'll just attempt to 50% a 1h sword then...
it should take, in average, on a 10 slot weapon:
50 WS or 40 pam songs
50 pinks 20%
50 NX shields
that's... a lot of money... god.
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:it should take, in average, on a 10 slot weapon:
50 WS or 40 pam songs
50 pinks 20%
50 NX shields
that's... a lot of money... god.
You're better off just buying the 1h sword GM Scrolls off the MTS for like 25-35k per scroll lol
Far less money and less risk used overall.
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Dark Link Wrote:You're better off just buying the 1h sword GM Scrolls off the MTS for like 25-35k per scroll lol
Far less money and less risk used overall.
good thing i am at a high enough level to obtain meso/nx in ways other than real life money. i want a 210 w.attk fast 5 polearm you see
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1H GM Swords can be MTS'd? And they're that cheap?
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Locked Wrote:1H GM Swords can be MTS'd? And they're that cheap?
yes they can be, as for the second question, lolduping of course. costs the hacker almost nothing to dupe, they win 25 bucks per scroll.
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Locked Wrote:1H GM Swords can be MTS'd? And they're that cheap?
Fake GM hack that actually works and lets you buy GM scrolls from an NPC. Couple people in Khaini were selling them by the 100s during the first day it was out. Originally they were 100k+ per scroll.
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http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=39459
I recall that being that the source of where I got the information. I dunno if Spadow revised it after discovery of it working with potential scrolls but that's what seems to be the case.
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ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=39459
I recall that being that the source of where I got the information. I dunno if Spadow revised it after discovery of it working with potential scrolls but that's what seems to be the case.
he did, let me look for the actual page, gimme a moment...
EDIT:
http://spadow.wordpress.com/2011/01/30/k...-new-year/
in the comments:
Spadow says:
May 3, 2011 at 9:28 AM
The Protect Shield item works with all scrolls that can potentially blow up. It also works with equip enhancement scrolls, but only till the 8th star.
I apologize for the wording I used in this post, it wasnt very clear.
Ive changed it and hopefully everything is clear to you now.
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That changes things then. Though, I'm honestly not sure if it's worth scrolling an item that way even with those 20% scrolls... :S
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ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:That changes things then. Though, I'm honestly not sure if it's worth scrolling an item that way even with those 20% scrolls... :S
Well, in my opening post I did talk about risk avoidance, not necessarily perfect scrolling.
Would be really nice to be able to use these protectors to safely plunk a few 30's on a hard-to-replace Unwelcome Guest Magician Shield, for example.
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:i want a 210 w.attk fast 5 polearm you see 
106 Fast (5) Polearm + 70 attack from 20% scrolls = 176 attack Fast (5) Polearm. Where will the extra 34 attack come from?
Of course, I realize your post might be a little sarcastic. I would like a 200 attack fast (5) polearm as well.
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:106 Fast (5) Polearm + 70 attack from 20% scrolls = 176 attack Fast (5) Polearm. Where will the extra 34 attack come from?
Of course, I realize your post might be a little sarcastic. I would like a 200 attack fast (5) polearm as well.
8 enhances. xP
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CarrionCrow Wrote:8 enhances. xP
this, basically. and it's not sarcastic, i want it, the same way i want 21% on everything, but don't have it, only difference, is that i'm going to try, slow and steady, but i'll try to get there.
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:this, basically. and it's not sarcastic, i want it, the same way i want 21% on everything, but don't have it, only difference, is that i'm going to try, slow and steady, but i'll try to get there.
If you get a 200 fast (5) polearm I am going to hate you. D=
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:If you get a 200 fast (5) polearm I am going to hate you. D=
210* and yes, if i ever get it, i'll make a secondary maple account just to smega it without my name, then equip it and let everyone forget, lol. one can dream~
also, if by some weird reason, one is able to get the polearm to 110 attk clean, i'll try that too, 210+70=280 +5 enhances= 200 +3 enhances = 215 D:
in the meantime, i'll make one and perfect 50% it and do with that f3. MOVE YOUR ASS CHAOS AND ARRIVE!
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:210*
If you scroll a 150 fast polearm I am going to hate you. D= I've been using a 95 Mapleboard for 40 years now. Not that I have a problem with that, but still. . .
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MetaSeraphim Wrote:If you scroll a 150 fast polearm I am going to hate you. D= I've been using a 95 Mapleboard for 40 years now. Not that I have a problem with that, but still. . .
i have been saving my ass off, all i am missing now is the polearm and the whites, lol at what i am going to say, but gogogo WS exploit f3 i can't afford 30 WS (to be on the safe side) at their current price.
and i bought some nice ski's a good time ago, before BB actually, still using those while fooling with a 111 attack machlear, lol
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