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But I dont think there is a lot of lvl 150+ that would use it, some aren't that active.

That's what you think, but considering 10k NX for a rebirth is chump change when compared to the potential system and how broken that is, people will easily cough up the money just to be more broken.

Isn't the minimum level to use it 120?

Yes, but rebirthing right at 120 doesn't net you anything positive. All you'd get is three 4th job skills at level 1. It's better to either hit 200 (for maximum HP/MP/SP gain) or max out all the main 4th job skills before rebirthing.

Don't count on it. It breaks the point of having different* classes as is.

Sorry to burst your bubble. But, if this makes it to the live JMS server then it is a very real possibility that it would spread to other versions. Except for KMS because they're too hardcore to have another version's custom content in their version.

Sorry to burst your bubble. But, if this makes it to the live JMS server then it is a very real possibility that it would spread to other versions. Except for KMS because they're too hardcore to have another version's custom content in their version.

Yeah, instead, KMS will just create their own variation of it in due time, and depending on how long that takes will depend on if GMS gets the JMS version or the KMS variant.

Question is, if KMS made a system like this would it be better or worst? They did give us potential after all. And a cash shop item that stops stuff from being blown up. And MSEA? gave us the cash shop item that stops slots from being taken.

Question is, if KMS made a system like this would it be better or worst?

Neo Tokyo -> Neo City
JMS -> KMS
Rebirth System -> Butchered Rebirth System

Yeah, but, ungodly potential system! They could create all new areas based around everyone and their mother using the rebirth system.

Actually, a better question. How do you butcher this exactly? Beyond the Skill UI thingy it is not like JMS has put a lot of hard work in it yet.

Yeah, but, ungodly potential system! They could create all new areas based around everyone and their mother using the rebirth system.

Actually, a better question. How do you butcher this exactly? Beyond the Skill UI thingy it is not like JMS has put a lot of hard work in it yet.

Skills keep X amount of SP instead of what they were at at rebirth, HP and MP are reset, less passive skills are carried over, you only keep Y amount of skills, etc.
While it's true that it's rather hard to butcher due to what we have access to at the moment, you can do some damage by attacking the main source. Since in JMS, you keep majority of your skills and whatnot, like 98% of them it seems due to certain passives, you can easily just alter that number from 98% to like 50% or "Only keep 1st/2nd/3rd/4th job skills", instead of all of them.

You are right though that KMS did create the most broken system ever to be released in Maple, aka Potential System. I highly doubt nothing will ever be more broken than that until we see another system that lets you get to 100k+ range with less effort.

Skills keep X amount of SP instead of what they were at at rebirth, HP and MP are reset, less passive skills are carried over, you only keep Y amount of skills, etc.
While it's true that it's rather hard to butcher due to what we have access to at the moment, you can do some damage by attacking the main source. Since in JMS, you keep majority of your skills and whatnot, like 98% of them it seems due to certain passives, you can easily just alter that number from 98% to like 50% or "Only keep 1st/2nd/3rd/4th job skills", instead of all of them.

You are right though that KMS did create the most broken system ever to be released in Maple, aka Potential System. I highly doubt nothing will ever be more broken than that until we see another system that lets you get to 100k+ range with less effort.

I find rebirthing more broken actually, since it renders some classes pretty dang useless and steals away everything fun with picking a class and sticking with it for it's perks.
Comment on potential system:

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The potential system, overpowering as it is, is at least open to everybody. Buying 15% main stat gear is no different from buying any other good piece of gear before this system came out. Gaps increase, that's true, but that hardly affects people that could not even afford "godly" gear in the first place. If the notion of players much more powerful than oneself is really that annoying, congratulations, you get to make it a project to earn enough mesos to buy new gear or MTS stuff to buy cubes. Neither of which is half as hard as people make it out to be.

I agree. Rebirthing is much worse game balance wise than potential.

Yes, potential requires large amounts of NX to make the highest DPS for your class.

Rebirth throws everything that isn't a shadower/hero/Pala combo into forever useless territory.

I guess it really depends though. I can see it as this way.
Short end of the stick: Rebirth is more broken.
Long end of the stick: Potential is more broken.

Potential is more broken, Rebirth is more game breaking. There is a difference.

Potential is more broken, Rebirth is more game breaking. There is a difference.

I dunno about that. Potential can be classified into both categories due to how NexonKR set it up in Big Bang and in Chaos with the whole "Boss damage % / Ignore PDR/MDR stacking" ordeal.

I am talking about the game as it is defined by by unique classes with unique skills. I've always viewed broken as super duper damage, and game breaking as something that breaks how the game is set up. Hacking is game breaking for example.

Is Aran into Bowmaster possible?

Because all I have to say, is Combo Drain, incredibly spammable Combo Tempest, Combo Barrier, Combo Critical, BODY PRESSURE, Combat Step, and MW30 if you so desire.


Seriously, with how fast hurricane shoots, you'd be racking up combo like no tomorrow, with crit, you'll be at 100% critical.

That is, if combo goes up when you hit with a non-polearm
Archer
Critical: +40% crit rate
Sharp Eyes: +20% crit rate +35% max critical damage

60%

Aran:
Combo Crit: +20% Crit Rate, +3% crit per 10 combo, Max Stacks: 10

50% at 100 combo

110% crit rate.

And with combo drain you'll constantly be healing.

God help us if smart Knockback works with a bow.

Is Aran into Bowmaster possible?

Because all I have to say, is Combo Drain, incredibly spammable Combo Tempest, Combo Barrier, Combo Critical, BODY PRESSURE, Combat Step, and MW30 if you so desire.


Seriously, with how fast hurricane shoots, you'd be racking up combo like no tomorrow, with crit, you'll be at 100% critical.

That is, if combo goes up when you hit with a non-polearm

Arans cannot Rebirth, nor can a person RB into one.

Good to know.

Hmm, Paladin into a Shad?

Guardian = 42% block rate, Shadow Shifter = 47% block rate, (That's with combat orders)

89% chance to not take damage sounds kinda' sweet, and then we can't forget the dual shield mastery for +300% defense total.

And for when you do get hit, there's always stance, achilles, divine shield, meso guard, and lets not forget all that avoidability.

That's pretty much godmode.

@ Nunnnuko
Nun Nuko
Mention of the potential for early termination of the public test server yesterday. I am sorry, in steep, open test 12:00 today I will present to the end. For more information, thank you wait for the announcement you for your website.

Yay, pomegranate google translate BUT, an EARLY CLOSURE MEANS THAT IT WILL MOST DEFINITELY NOT BE IMPLEMENTED!

Oh good, if they're not implementing it, that's a bit of a relief.
It's just too broken.

Plenty of twitter comments from Nunnnuko.

"Implementation of the Rebirth system is not considered at this stage, the information we implemented to test this as I think I will be completely different."

Chances are that we may see this in a different style.

http://twitter.com/#!/Nunnnuko

Seems interesting what they'll do with it.