S.E.A | Removel of Chaina and Thailand World Tour!

I shouldn't even bother replying to you since you've obviously never read any of my posts, but.

Pretty sure you're a bit biased on this point.

Were China and Thailand universally empty as well? I doubt it. I am sure they had at least some constant activity every now and then. But there are maps in GMS that are hardly used and you don't see GMS running around like dumbmotherf'uckers deleting those areas. Since you want me to name an area I will. That map in Japan with the Crows, I mean really, the only people who go there are the ones who do the quest or hack. It should be deleted along with all of Japan, right?

Emphasis to the redundancy mine.

That is a single map, not an area. Mushroom Shrine's graveyard area has bains, which are quite usable if you wanted to. There's also people all over Showa and theres also been uses for the area with the Buddha statue. When I was in MapleSEA, in Delphinus upon it's release, there was NO ONE in China during Singapore evening hours. Last I checked, the area hasn't become any more inviting since then.

When I was in MapleSEA, in Delphinus upon it's release, there was NO ONE in China during Singapore evening hours. Last I checked, the area hasn't become any more inviting since then.

Mainly because Delphinus was almost always dead compared to all the other worlds, but of course there's also the fact that no one ever goes to China any more.

Yes it was. People are arguing that if something is useless it should be removed, while a good amount of maps in MapleStory go underused. So shouldn't they be removed as well? No, of course not.

You: More than 50% of the places in Maple should be removed since they're useless.
Me: Except more than 50% of the places in Maple have a use.

Arrol: I would delete anything in this game that doesn't have a use.
You: Except everything has a use.

Nothing was read out of context. Make up your mind on where you want to stand. :V

You: More than 50% of the places in Maple should be removed since they're useless.
Me: Except more than 50% of the places in Maple have a use.

Arrol: I would delete anything in this game that doesn't have a use.
You: Except everything has a use.

Nothing was read out of context. Make up your mind on where you want to stand. :V

I believe that was sarcasm on his part.. I think you're taking it out of context.

Mainly because Delphinus was almost always dead compared to all the other worlds, but of course there's also the fact that no one ever goes to China any more.

I guess we should delete Korean Folk Town, and every area but the final Neo City as well. Because no one ever goes there.

Pretty sure you're a bit biased on this point.

I rarely if ever argue about something Maple related, so I don't see how I can be going around "arguing silly things with no basis".

And even if I was that would be subjective in purely in your opinion with no backing. Aka, biased.

Nothing was read out of context. Make up your mind on where you want to stand. :V

I was using the excuse people are using for an area to be deleted to show how horrible and flawed it is. Stop being so logical and learn how to read into deeper meanings.

I was using the excuse people are using for an area to be deleted to show how horrible and flawed it is. Stop being so logical and learn how to read into deeper meanings.

Then clearly acknowledge what your argument is. You seriously can't expect people to take you for what you're attempting to prove if you jump all over, yet, expect people to actually read deeper into meanings.

Then clearly acknowledge what your argument is. You seriously can't expect people to take you for what you're attempting to prove if you jump all over, yet, expect people to actually read deeper into meanings.

Here's what we're saying: Your idea of "removing anything not used" is flawed logically, and we can and have used your logic against your argument.

lol they, reducing the file size? they just shut off ways to enter those maps and the maps are still in the files.

We'll wait for Fiels extractions for confirmation. (IF he extracts SEA's file)

Were China and Thailand universally empty as well? I doubt it. I am sure they had at least some constant activity every now and then. But there are maps in GMS that are hardly used and you don't see GMS running around like dumbmotherf'uckers deleting those areas. Since you want me to name an area I will. That map in Japan with the Crows, I mean really, the only people who go there are the ones who do the quest or hack. It should be deleted along with all of Japan, right?

Well your arguement makes absolutely no point. Those crows are located obviously in Mush Shrine, which connects to Samurai, Anego and Future tokyo.... While Thailand and Shanghai are just stagnant maps leading to nowhere with only a few people visiting shanghai to do one singapore quest(photographer quest). And yes, it IS empty.. i play 2 worlds and these are the most populated ones(A and B) and yet china is completely empty while thailand is only filled with occasional hackers or questers. Unless you say hacking makes the map have a purpose, i see none.

I believe that was sarcasm on his part.. I think you're taking it out of context.

I guess we should delete Korean Folk Town, and every area but the final Neo City as well. Because no one ever goes there.

By purpose it could mean anything, not just training. Korean folk town is filled with quests connected to many areas in the mapleworld, it connects ludi to aqua road, you have to get your freaking mount there.. in comparison to shanghai... none, unless you count the photography quest which connect shanghai and singapore.. and thats not even important compared to mounts. With mush castle people rarely ever visit there anymore.

Just a note im not with or against as this move obviously has good and bad points. im just stating whats logical.

We'll wait for Fiels extractions for confirmation. (IF he extracts SEA's file)




Well your arguement makes absolutely no point. Those crows are located obviously in Mush Shrine, which connects to Samurai, Anego and Future tokyo.... While Thailand and Shanghai are just stagnant maps leading to nowhere with only a few people visiting shanghai to do one singapore quest(photographer quest). And yes, it IS empty.. i play 2 worlds and these are the most populated ones(A and B) and yet china is completely empty while thailand is only filled with occasional hackers or questers. Unless you say hacking makes the map have a purpose, i see none.

Just a note im not with or against as this move obviously has good and bad points. im just stating whats logical.

With that logic, Korean Folk Town, Omega Sector, Aqua Road, Sleepywood, and Orbis should be removed too. The only reason people go there is for quests.

The real problem here is the way things are structured in maple, as in monster stats+exp. They're very unbalanced, even in original areas. Punch in world tour + masteria, and that gives me a sadfais for equality.

Here's what we're saying: Your idea of "removing anything not used" is flawed logically, and we can and have used your logic against your argument.

Tell me what's flawed about it then.

lol they, reducing the file size? they just shut off ways to enter those maps and the maps are still in the files.

Yes it was. People are arguing that if something is useless it should be removed, while a good amount of maps in MapleStory go underused. So shouldn't they be removed as well? No, of course not.



I shouldn't even bother replying to you since you've obviously never read any of my posts, but.



Were China and Thailand universally empty as well? I doubt it. I am sure they had at least some constant activity every now and then. But there are maps in GMS that are hardly used and you don't see GMS running around like dumbmotherf'uckers deleting those areas. Since you want me to name an area I will. That map in Japan with the Crows, I mean really, the only people who go there are the ones who do the quest or hack. It should be deleted along with all of Japan, right?

With that logic, Korean Folk Town, Omega Sector, Aqua Road, Sleepywood, and Orbis should be removed too. The only reason people go there is for quests.

The real problem here is the way things are structured in maple, as in monster stats+exp. They're very unbalanced, even in original areas. Punch in world tour + masteria, and that gives me a sadfais for equality.

Like i said, not only for training or questing purposes. I already talked about KFT, i have no omments about omega... Aqua road have the most important purpose when you reach 4th job. you might not have felt it now because we've already done all those quests. Also, pianus. Sleepywood have the huge balrog thing(its constantly filled in msea
), junior balrog and serve a purpose for 4th job bowmen and some i might not know of). For orbis, your arguement is invalid :/ It connects vic to the rest of ossy if you dont include Erev and Leafre.

Tell me what's flawed about it then.

Because there are many maps and areas that are underused compared to other parts of the Maple world. Say an area has 3 bad maps before a good one, should we just cut those 3 out and connect right to the good one? I don't believe so.

But, this debate is mostly personal opinion vs. personal opinion. I have the opinion that nothing should be removed because even if it isn't useful for training it still has a use just for visiting it every once in a while. Some people (Maybe you) have the opinion that if it isn't useful for training than it is completely useless and should be removed from the game.

Either way we are going to go back and forth back and forth back and forth with personal opinions.

sorry :>

It just isn't a good policy of removing areas for a game. If it's bad, revamp it. I know Nexon Japan has done this to many areas.

But assuming they're revamping it, FYI, we're still using an old version of Shanghai, the new version of Shanghai has a shorter distance which eases transportation and the landscapes are mainly made up of purple crystals :f6:
If they take China version 's Shanghai after revamping, then it won't be a problem for its emptiness
Revamping might help but then it takes up a little more spaces because luckily it is overwriting it instead of stuffing more inside.

If they make some expansions for Thailand and Shanghai, I guess more people will be visiting though
But these are just pure assumptions, as they even changed the original Golden Temple into an Event Golden Temple (Which are not Event anymore)

And so far, other than JMS, I had not seen a video Shanghai from the Origin- ChinaMS after big bang yet.
Anyone can provide me one? I wanna see
Because basically.... if we could make use of these datas, why waste it

It's like you bought 2 dozens of eggs, and then you could not eat more and store it after a long long long long time until it rots and then you are throwing them away.
Why don't u cook them for the others

(Well nvm, personally nags, I have some mental problems )

It just isn't a good policy of removing areas for a game. If it's bad, revamp it. I know Nexon Japan has done this to many areas.

Plus the fact that GMS with all its faults and removing Monster Book because of unpopular opinion added Ninja Castle before Big Bang and kept it afterwards.

Plus the fact that GMS with all its faults and removing Monster Book because of unpopular opinion added Ninja Castle before Big Bang and kept it afterwards.

If they really focus on something and revamp it, it could make miracles and make players fond of it
the best example is Monster Book of JMS
They revamped Monster Book, now you'll see how JMS players love the new monster book as well
JMS has its own style, I wonder why, maybe Japaneses are meant to be more initiative and more creative towards animations or something?
(MAYBE ! this is pure assumption, not being racist :< )

Better example is neo city in GMS.

GMS, at one time, was also initiative and more creative towards custom content.

Eh, I think they were just too lazy to add those two maps to the data by themselves when they were copy-pasting data from other peoples' patches.