What IllegallySane's saying is what most of the hype is based on. The Time Lords were born from rifts in space and time. It's theorized that Amy's daughter was born the same way. The rift gave birth to a new Time Lord who's unstable from being born within a human.
Neil Gaiman's episode is next! I'm so hyped up about it.
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So the actress playing Eye Patch Lady is also credited as Lady Kovarian in 2 other episodes. I guess we'll find out what her deal is in a few weeks time.
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:What IllegallySane's saying is what most of the hype is based on. The Time Lords were born from rifts in space and time.
To be honest I'm a little uncomfortable with this season so far. The premiere felt really disjointed. The doctor sending the entire human race on a subconscious homicidal rampage against the Silence seems fantastically out of character, especially given all of the pontificating we got from 9 and 10 on the subject of killing. The pirate episode seems to have some serious plothole problems, not the least of which being A) why the EMH from hell didn't put the original crew into stasis and B) why The Doctor et. al. didn't get plugged in right after arriving on the ship like everyone else did.
Amy's Pregnancy is the one thing that interests me.
If the person in the space suit that shot The Doctor isn't River, I'll eat my hat. If River turns out to be Amy's Daughter, Stephen Moffat is going to the same circle of hell that awaits JJ Abrams.
And above all else, am I the only person that's NOT happy about the sudden unexplained appearance of The Littlest Timelord in the alleyway???
Lumancer Wrote:The pirate episode seems to have some serious plothole problems, not the least of which being A) why the EMH from hell didn't put the original crew into stasis and B) why The Doctor et. al. didn't get plugged in right after arriving on the ship like everyone else did.
I thought it was because the only people left by that point (Doctor, Amy, Captain) were the ones who didn't get any paper cuts, bruises, etc. The boy had just got zapped, Rory had just jumped overboard, and the Mysterious Disappearing Pirate had simply disappeared from the story altogether.
Lumancer Wrote:And above all else, am I the only person that's NOT happy about the sudden unexplained appearance of The Littlest Timelord in the alleyway???
I'm not exactly happy about regenerating girl, but they do this sort of cliffhanger all the time on Dcotor Who, and I'm used to it by now. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that she isn't a Timelord.
Lumancer Wrote:The doctor sending the entire human race on a subconscious homicidal rampage against the Silence seems fantastically out of character, especially given all of the pontificating we got from 9 and 10 on the subject of killing.
Now that you reminded me, that bothered me as well. o_o The Doctor was completely against genocide. I mean he didn't want to kill off the Daleks right away and those guys are complete dicks. :f6:
2011-05-10, 09:47 AM (This post was last modified: 2011-05-29, 01:35 PM by IllegallySane.)
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This probably shows how much he hates the idea of controlling people behind their backs. At least the Daleks made their presence known. These guys are the ultimate cowards: They tell you to do something without you ever being aware of it, and that probably struck a really bad nerve with the Doctor.
Based upon my rather sketchy memory of the past few seasons; I believe the Doctor's clone has commited genocide before, killing all the Daleks? or some threat or other. It was part of the Big Bad Wolf arc if I remember correctly. He trapped his clone in the other universe as "punishment", but I don't think he felt it was truly the wrong decision as it saved both Earths. Additionally I believe at some point it was mentioned that he trapped his own race in a specific time to prevent them from controlling the universe and all the races within it, and I believe he sent the Daleks to the end of time, effectively killing them as well. The Doctor has always abhorred violence, but of all the beings in the universe, he's the one you least want to piss off. And then there's the fact that he is a new Doctor, and every Doctor has been different from the ones before, and changed over the course of the show. The most recent doctors seem to be the most empathetic/human, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was pissed off enough to do it that way after they took Amy.
Rhayn Wrote:I thought it was because the only people left by that point (Doctor, Amy, Captain) were the ones who didn't get any paper cuts, bruises, etc. The boy had just got zapped, Rory had just jumped overboard, and the Mysterious Disappearing Pirate had simply disappeared from the story altogether.
I mean the space ship, not the pirate ship. All of the others appear to have been incapacitated and wired into their beds pretty quickly. Why not Amy, The Doctor, and the Captain?
Rhayn Wrote:I'm not exactly happy about regenerating girl, but they do this sort of cliffhanger all the time on Dcotor Who, and I'm used to it by now. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that she isn't a Timelord.
If she's not, that just makes it worse...
ElectricSix Wrote:Based upon my rather sketchy memory of the past few seasons; I believe the Doctor's clone has commited genocide before, killing all the Daleks? or some threat or other. It was part of the Big Bad Wolf arc if I remember correctly. He trapped his clone in the other universe as "punishment", but I don't think he felt it was truly the wrong decision as it saved both Earths. Additionally I believe at some point it was mentioned that he trapped his own race in a specific time to prevent them from controlling the universe and all the races within it, and I believe he sent the Daleks to the end of time, effectively killing them as well. The Doctor has always abhorred violence, but of all the beings in the universe, he's the one you least want to piss off. And then there's the fact that he is a new Doctor, and every Doctor has been different from the ones before, and changed over the course of the show. The most recent doctors seem to be the most empathetic/human, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was pissed off enough to do it that way after they took Amy.
I'm a little wary of those conclusions. I have a hard time believing that 10 would have felt his doppleganger's actions were justified. As for trapping his own race, that wasn't because the time lords were going to control people, it was because they were going to end the bloody universe. And yes, I agree that 11 is a very different man than 10, but this still feels off...
Rhayn Wrote:I thought it was because the only people left by that point (Doctor, Amy, Captain) were the ones who didn't get any paper cuts, bruises, etc.
They had to cut themselves to go in there to begin with, though.
Lumancer Wrote:I have a hard time believing that 10 would have felt his doppleganger's actions were justified.
I've been listening to other people discuss the Silent genocide, and one explanation for this somewhat out of character action is that the Doctor only gave the order to kill the Silence on sight. If the Silence stayed away from humans and left them alone, then people wouldn't notice them or remember the video clip. So they wouldn't get hunted down and still have a chance of surviving if they stayed out of sight.
MariaColette Wrote:They had to cut themselves to go in there to begin with, though.
Huh. I totally forgot about that bit.
Lumancer Wrote:If she's not, that just makes it worse...
I know. But cop outs are inevitable with a show that constantly uses crazy cliffhangers.
I also wish they'd stop killing Rory, but that doesn't seem likely either. He's becoming quite the chewtoy.
2011-05-14, 11:00 PM (This post was last modified: 2011-05-29, 01:35 PM by IllegallySane.)
xBTAx Wrote:Best episode of the season by far.
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"Did you wish really hard?"
I can't even
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That quote is so lulzworthy.
The episode was a nerdgasm of awesome. Making a partial TARDIS chassis in mere minutes and then not only piloted it but phased into his own? Seeing the previous TARDIS design? The TARDIS as a woman, and seeing the Doctor interact with her? It was a very heartwarming episode. If my eyes weren't so locked up I'd probably have cried at the end.
And 57 shippers punched the air. Those Tardis/Doctor moments were truly beautiful, but I couldn't help grinning at the huge amounts of ship enabling in this episode.
Also glad to see the return of Tardis corridor shenanigans, with added Gaiman-flavoured creepiness. Though, is anyone bothered by how they kept referring to The House as House? I now have this image in my head of Hugh Laurie eating Tardises.
I was actually worried before that I might get overhyped and be disappointed. Guess there was nothing to worry about.
Rhayn Wrote:Though, is anyone bothered by how they kept referring to The House as House? I now have this image in my head of Hugh Laurie eating Tardises.
The entire episode was absolutely adorable. The TARDIS sharing her thoughts with the Doctor as a human being. And I giggled at Amy and Rory's reactions to her. And the episode's title is so appropriate. :3
... I KNEW not to trust an Ood with odd-colored eyes. :<
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