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Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread
Like singed ditching Merc thread for the Tenacity Staff that gives 50 ap and using sorcerer boots instead.
dante9898 Wrote:For people saying why nerf shen: >Ki strike.

A Hp tanky build Shen can kill anyone alone with Vorpal blade to heal and ki strike to attack, i know because as a pre nerf-nerf nocturne i could not kill a shen when i had Black Cleaver Lifesteal Brutalizer and i think stark fervor too.

tl;dr BAWWWWW WHY CAN'T I SOLO THE TANK

This isn't going to fix anything that makes Shen strong. It's his ult. Nerf everything to the ground but the ult and you'll have the same Shen, more or less.
hmm ok didnt think about it from that angle, but yea i see what you are saying now.
We also don't know what they're doing with CC reduction skills. Imagine them not stacking with tenacity items.

EDIT : One possibility
<Rayquaza2233> Has Riot mentioned what they're doing with CC reduction skills?
<Argona> give the philo stone one cdr
<Argona> wow its amazin
<Neurolimal> rayquaza champion CCR skills stack with tenacity
<Llama> cc reduction stacks with tenacity apparently
<Neurolimal> but tenacity items do not stack
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:We also don't know what they're doing with CC reduction skills. Imagine them not stacking with tenacity items.

That's like saying CC reduction skills don't stack with Mercs. All it basically is is changing the name, the mechanic still works the exact same way.
Dark Link Wrote:That's like saying CC reduction skills don't stack with Mercs. All it basically is is changing the name, the mechanic still works the exact same way.

'cept it doesn't. Tenacity also reduces silence and blind duration, which old "CC reduction" did not do. Do the CC reduction skills work on silences and blinds now?
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:'cept it doesn't. Tenacity also reduces silence and blind duration, which old "CC reduction" did not do. Do the CC reduction skills work on silences and blinds now?

No, but that's not the point I'm getting at. It's still the same thing as it is now, the name's just changed and they added two "CC" abilities to the list. Nothing else changed in how CC reduction works with other items / abilities, which means Tenacity items should still stack with CC reduction passives / abilities.
How do we know they're not keeping both?
Maybe ive caught on to the wrong thing, but i had the impression all champions will have a base tenacity and you can boost with items but it doesnt stack. Id assume Irelia, for example, could have more CC reduction due to her passive, or she has less base tenacity compared to others to even it out.

Or everyone starts with 0 idk..

E: found this
''Does Tenacity stack with Irelia's passive and Trundle's Contaminate? Or any sort of CC-reduction effects?
Yes, Tenacity stacks with character-specific sources of CC reduction in a multiplicative way. This means 50% CC Reduction + 25% tenacity does not equal 75% reduction, but ~66.7% reduction. Tenacity is to make it so there's more items available, but to make stacking these items non-abusive. (Morello)''
Everybody Start at 0 most likely. Tenacity Is just CC reduction But including Silence and Blind in the mix.
It's fun playing against aggressive Ashes, cause Xin shits on them all day long!
Even if it was Co-op vs AI, getting a quadra feels good.

Also, does anyone have an opinion on flat CD blues vs. MR/lvl blues on Corki? I'm leaning MR.
I had a game with Kaj and Prescott earlier, it was fun, I didn't die the whole game, I think I did fairly good support as Sona Smile Ended 2/0/10. Also I was stalking Kaj's profile to check his score (5/1/6 as jungle trundle) and now I think he should stop abusing Bots, 50/1/13 in Coop Vs AI!?! dam.
Darkmaniak Wrote:and now I think he should stop abusing Bots, 50/1/13 in Coop Vs AI!?! dam.

That match last night was funny as hell. Mainly cause a random Malphite kept commenting on his "Legendary" spree.
Well i once got a penta.... In bots, Only once... Getting one of those is more difficult that it seems.
Anyone else planning to watch the Vayne preview in 2 hours? Looking forward to it, and seeing some of the other patch changes in action hopefully.
Not really, i decided to buy vayne first thing after patch tomorrow no matter how good or bad she is, i need to play more champs since i have been sucking with Noc Lately.
Thorns Wrote:between those 13 champions you pick up skills and learn things that can be applied to just about every other champion in the game

ashe - the importance of farming gold in the laning phase, as well as map awareness and positioning because she is powerful, but has no innate escape mechanism
nunu - the impact that counter jungling can have on the enemy team as well as the risk vs reward of a skill such as absolute zero
janna - the positives and negatives of having essentially a babysitter for your carry as well as learning how powerful relocation spells such as tempest can be
shen - team awareness, basic tanking skills such as keeping people off your carry
ryze - the basics of casting (as well as teaching you to hit your keys fast xD)
amumu - initiation and how to do it right, jungle tanking, and the importance of landing skillshots
teemo - the importance of map control and split pushing
taric - the sheer power of a targetable stun as well as the benefits of auras
alistar - the basics of roaming, ganking as well as meatshielding which some tanks are often forced to do
annie - teaches you last hitting and how to play disable casters (swain, leblanc etc)
tristana - like ashe, but with escape mechanisms
cho'gath - the psychological effect that a gigantic alien taking up half the screen that noms your carry's health in half has on your enemies xD xD
Finally started winning again, got 4 wins in a row with sona today, so it's either:
Sona is fucking awesome.
My teams were nice. ( 1 with kaj and prescott, 2 with will)
People who play on weekends suck, as in I get bad teams and good enemies.
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:tl;dr BAWWWWW WHY CAN'T I SOLO THE TANK

This isn't going to fix anything that makes Shen strong. It's his ult. Nerf everything to the ground but the ult and you'll have the same Shen, more or less.

Incorrect.

Eddikins Wrote:Why did they say something about Shen being able to carry.. hes a tank not a carry lol.

Rammus is a tank and I can carry with him like no tomorrow. Casters aren't classified as carries and they carry all the time. Do you see where I'm going with this?


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