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Rayquaza2233 Wrote:OKAY NEW BUILD THAT ISN'T THAT MUCH DIFFERENT FROM THE OLD ONE

SV -> Merc's -> Warmog's -> Ghostblade -> Atma's -> FoN

I NEED TO FIT A STARK'S IN THERE SOMEWHERE

Buy a tank item if you even need it (which you usually don't).
where ;_;


Or drop wasteofgoldmog's and atmas.

Shield> SV> Mercs/ Berserkers> Phantom Dancer> Triforce> PD#2> IE
I builded my Smurf mundo with Sunfire-Merc Threads-Spirit Visage as a Core. Then after that i builded once Force of nature+Warmog for Infinite W with a nashor tooth for Extra Asp and AP for W. That Bot game for me was 19-13-26, most of the time dying in late game i think (was 2 days ago so don't remember well).

You definitely want a SV since it Boost the HP recovery of your innate, your Q and your R so no questions about that.
dante9898 Wrote:I builded my Smurf mundo with Sunfire-Merc Threads-Spirit Visage as a Core. Then after that i builded once Force of nature+Warmog for Infinite W with a nashor tooth for Extra Asp and AP for W. That Bot game for me was 19-13-26, most of the time dying in late game i think (was 2 days ago so don't remember well).

You definitely want a SV since it Boost the HP recovery of your innate, your Q and your R so no questions about that.

You died in bot games?
>Pineapple' Wrote:You died in bot games?

Its not impossible you know. Freaking Top always mess my rhythm because of frucking taric and soraka healing any harrass i manage to do. And because i was a little suicide with mundo too since i only played with him twice.

Also bots cheat so yeah...
>Pineapple' Wrote:You died in bot games?

I die all the time when I screw around. Mass lulz indeed.
Dark Link Wrote:I die all the time when I screw around. Mass lulz indeed.

I lulz more when i get assists.... From Baron XD. Bots sudenly run to baron and just go back and forth trying to run without attacking or nothing. Once i just aggroed Baron and let him kill the bot.
Returning with LIST OF POSSIBLE MUNDO ITEMS instead of a build.

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Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Jungling/Armour/Lifesteal/AD
wriggles

HP/CDR/Survivability
visage, (important pomegranate ok)

Have-not HP items
hog, (unless I sell it 15 minutes later)


Sustained Magic
force of nature,

Getting Bursted to Death
banshees

Chain CC
quicksilver sash,


Anti-caster
hexdrinker,

Ranged Phys DPS enemies (especially Twitch)
thornmail


For slowing enemies even more (and armour, HP, CDR)
omen,



DPS
triforce,


With Other Crit Items
infinity edge,


Boots
cooldown boots, ,
zerkers,
treads.

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Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Returning with LIST OF POSSIBLE MUNDO ITEMS instead of a build.

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<.< Made some notes Ray. Not that I'm the end all, be all of itemization on Mundo, but some of your picks were terribad imo.
ElectricSix Wrote:<.< Made some notes Ray. Not that I'm the end all, be all of itemization on Mundo, but some of your picks were terribad imo.

>Wriggles is great on mundo. He's supposed to dps.
>QSS is great and cost effective even if their team doesn't have suppression.
>Triforce is great after getting a PD
>Zerkers are good for dps if they don't have enough cc to really bother you/ if you have qss
>Pineapple' Wrote:>Wriggles is great on mundo. He's supposed to dps.
>QSS is great and cost effective even if their team doesn't have suppression.
>Triforce is great after getting a PD
>Zerkers are good for dps if they don't have enough cc to really bother you/ if you have qss

Even if you go DPS with Mundo, I still don't think Wriggle's is as worthwhile an item as getting an early Brutalizer + Vampire Scepter. Wriggles works for some DPS, but I just don't see it being as valuable on Mundo as other items.

FoN + Merc Treads or even B Veil + Merc Treads is a better choice against heavy Magic/CC teams. As Mundo you should be popping your ult whenever you're team fights are starting, so with all that combined, CC shouldn't even be used on you, and if it is, your team should be punishing them for focusing that CC on you.

Triforce is a good item, but I'd rather pick up a Frozen Mallet + Phantom Dancer since the Sheen proc and mana are relatively useless on Mundo and both of those items synergize better with the other items I'd pick if I was going DPS. I could see sticking with just a Zeal and Phage for a while to see if you need another item slot more than you need those two seperate items, but I still feel Tri Force is better off being picked up by other champions most games.

Zerkers are a nice cheap boot, but I'd rather either a) reduce cc on me even more when I run into a team fight or b) Pick up some boots of swiftness to make Mundo running and killing your carry a constant threat every team fight. It's true if you go FoN and Phantom Dancer that you probably don't need that extra speed boost, since Mundo's ult boots your speed as well, but if you've got that Phantom Dancer, you're already well on your way as far as Atk Speed goes, and at that point I'd probably sell my Swiftness boots for Merc Treads anyway.
Awww yeah, first game as Jungle Noct. Was fun lol

There's only one problem. Noct's stuff is giving me severe Framerate drops, most noticeably whenever I use Q or E. I tried setting effects and shadows to lowest possible, but I'm still getting it...QQ
ElectricSix Wrote:Even if you go DPS with Mundo, I still don't think Wriggle's is as worthwhile an item as getting an early Brutalizer + Vampire Scepter. Wriggles works for some DPS, but I just don't see it being as valuable on Mundo as other items.

FoN + Merc Treads or even B Veil + Merc Treads is a better choice against heavy Magic/CC teams. As Mundo you should be popping your ult whenever you're team fights are starting, so with all that combined, CC shouldn't even be used on you, and if it is, your team should be punishing them for focusing that CC on you.

Triforce is a good item, but I'd rather pick up a Frozen Mallet + Phantom Dancer since the Sheen proc and mana are relatively useless on Mundo and both of those items synergize better with the other items I'd pick if I was going DPS. I could see sticking with just a Zeal and Phage for a while to see if you need another item slot more than you need those two seperate items, but I still feel Tri Force is better off being picked up by other champions most games.

Zerkers are a nice cheap boot, but I'd rather either a) reduce cc on me even more when I run into a team fight or b) Pick up some boots of swiftness to make Mundo running and killing your carry a constant threat every team fight. It's true if you go FoN and Phantom Dancer that you probably don't need that extra speed boost, since Mundo's ult boots your speed as well, but if you've got that Phantom Dancer, you're already well on your way as far as Atk Speed goes, and at that point I'd probably sell my Swiftness boots for Merc Treads anyway.

Mallet isn't worth it on mundo. It's good on paper, but not worth its cost.
Triforce with your E and the bonus stats it gives is amazing. Staple on dps mundo. QSS is good because it's cheap and does what it does well. DPS mundo doesn't have much gold to spare of defense when he's building 2X PD and a triforce.
 Well done Kaj, well done

So I decided to play a game with Kaj. I went jungle Amumu, him as Irelia.

Twitch carried for us early/mid game, but once he started getting a bit greedy and such, he lost his killing streak (10+ kill streak). Kaj then becomes our carry during mid/late game phase, and did very well. Many times, my ult helped my team during teamfights. Nothing can describe the sheer devastation it inflicted. Biggrin

We did well overall. I had a few bad ganks early game while jungling. Got killed twice, one which I think was quite stupid on my part. Nearly got instagibbed quite a few times.

Had this game gone long enough, I couldve gotten a Guardian Angel as life insurance. Rolleyes

For this game, I changed my jungling route a bit, and decided to go Blue Golem (Smite) ---> Wolves ---> Wraiths ---> Lizard Elder (Smite) ---> Golems --> Gank instead of Blue Golem (Smite) ---> Wolves ---> Wraiths ---> Golem --> Lizard Elder (Smite) --> Gank. It was much more effective, makes full use of my blue buff before it expires, and maximizes my 5 red pots I have (didn't have to go back to base to heal). Going with this route from now on.
Man, I don't get it. How come people Will and I see less than level 30 are like 4x more coordinated and nicer than the level 30s Duel and I have been seeing? About the only thing these guys didn't have was the experience; case in point, MF got a second pink ward for Twitch and dropped it somewhere, even though Twitch was holding top lane and not exactly MIA.
KajitiSouls Wrote:Man, I don't get it. How come people Will and I see less than level 30 are like 4x more coordinated and nicer than the level 30s Duel and I have been seeing?

I'm guessing some Level 30 peeps ---> egos are very high, like to mock others harshly for their mistakes, etc?
WillDaSnail Wrote:I'm guessing some Level 30 peeps ---> egos are very high, like to mock others harshly for their mistakes, etc?

Yep. A lot of people i get paired with are quick to tell someone how bad they suck. Its kinda sad.

Also Vayne art looks like Bayonetta i love it.
I'm curious will, is your win loss ratio in normals positive or negative? It may have to do with the type of people kaj and I get queued up with, some are freaking ridiculous.
Finally got to play another game(not counting co op vs ui). Played jungle trundle and my team owned. We had Rene 2v1 top and he managed to not lose his lane instantly, so he ended up ahead of the kat/vlad combo and was getting kills on them. We had karthus mid vs ashe, i kept trying to gank her, but never got a kill, did send her back to base a few times so that was good. Bottom we had singed mundo vs trynd/mundo. Had a few ganks bot that got kills, one gank we killed both of them, but mundo got hit by an ashe arrow on the way back to our turret that killed him. I was 7/1/x at one point, ended the game 11/7 i think. Other team started to focus me hard, so i just tried to make sure ashe was out of the fight/dead before i died and we won all the team fights.

Started out cloth armor and pots. Got boots and vamp scepter. Finished wriggles and and merc treads. Built chain vest into sunfire next. Then did negatron cloak, sheen, FoN, triforce. Even when i only had wriggles and boots i was doing a ton of damage, trynd was the only one who could fight me, and only when he had his ult.

Was a nice change after those last few games i posted about.
Duelman Wrote:I'm curious will, is your win loss ratio in normals positive or negative? It may have to do with the type of people kaj and I get queued up with, some are freaking ridiculous.

Just look at his 2nd previous post. He's 147-142-2.

Also I'm still having the Noct probs. :|


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