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Possible archer hero spoiled?
#61
Punch Wrote:Because such ideas will destroy the Archer race and cause cataclysmic changes.

Can't tell if serious, but I suppose it should be serious going off of that earlier post up there.

Either way, you're content with Nexon not finishing what they started with the Legends? I'd understand if this was something like a Dual Blade thing or yet another new faction like the Resistance (hardly anything happens on the Dual Blade side after the 2nd job advancement, except for the level 55 advancement, and the Resistance had massive potential but hardly anything happened after the 2nd job advancement), but the Legends tend to have a lot more work put into them story-wise and game mechanics-wise. And I think we've reached a point where people are actually becoming legimitately interested in the story's direction as of late.
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#62
It wasn't serious.
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#63
donovan Wrote:I know you said you'd reverse the genders and all but per the story line they don't mix up genders and Aran has been revealed to be a Woman.

Not sure what gimmick to expect this time, it always come out of left field though so I'm expecting something fun.
You gotta make it versatile though. Especially in a game like this, even if the character is a girl or boy there has to be an opposite gender role that fits the story just as well xD.
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#64
New classes would have to be expected. It should be the timing of those releases. But them releasing a class like this along with revamping old archer classes wasn't what I had in mind. Maybe Nexon isn't thinking revamping the MMs and BMs were enough hype to get people to play them so they decided to add something entirely new but the same theme?

They'll probably make the archer hero overpower even WHs... We get the pattern yes? o.o
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#65
Solarboy Wrote:Let me spell it out for you:

 Spoiler
That's weird. I've never heard 'disappointment' being described as 'fun'.

Dark Link Wrote:Thank you Mr. Buzzkillington. Not everything has to be "Super Serious". What's wrong with speculating / creating ideas?
Who said anything about being 'super serious'?
Just saying, I did read many people's reactions to the Mage revamp.

You may want to brush up on the definition of 'speculating', because I said nothing of the matter.
Neither made-up skills nor fan fiction qualify.
Entertaining the idea that the archer character is the legend does, but I never said anything about that, did I?

Kubi Wrote:New classes would have to be expected.
This brings up something that I'm surprised no one mentioned.
Granted, someone from NX America said it, but still...

» Question: When are the remaining Heroes going to be released?
» We are taking a break from adding new classes for a little while.
-http://forums.mapletip.com/index.php?/to...asil-chat/

Also, can someone explain why we're making a big deal about the unnamed archer and not the unnamed pirate girl?
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#66
People have fun making stuff up, and unless they are incredibly stupid, they won't hope that it is actually like that in-game.

We made a ruckus because the arches is an elf. The only elf in maple was Athena Pierce.
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#67
Viaje Wrote:This brings up something that I'm surprised no one mentioned.
Granted, someone from NX America said it, but still...

» Question: When are the remaining Heroes going to be released?
» We are taking a break from adding new classes for a little while.
-http://forums.mapletip.com/index.php?/to...asil-chat/

Also, can someone explain why we're making a big deal about the unnamed archer and not the unnamed pirate girl?

Because a Nexon of America PR representative knows what Nexon Korea's plans for the rest of the year are, as early as late January (the time the Q/A session was conducted).

Also, if you had been paying attention to the KMS anniversary events, Spadow showed a week and a half ago that the pirate girl has been named and turned into an actual NPC named Valerie. The extractions here show her as an NPC as well. In fact, before this event, her artwork has been used to represent female adventurer pirates since forever. Nothing new here.
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#68
Solarboy Wrote:People have fun making stuff up, and unless they are incredibly stupid, they won't hope that it is actually like that in-game.
Don't underestimate the power of hype or group-think.
Consciously or not, it does have an effect on their reaction to actual content.

Solarboy Wrote:We made a ruckus because the arches is an elf. The only elf in maple was Athena Pierce.
I thought it was verified that Testonen was an elf.

Alilatias Wrote:Because a Nexon of America PR representative knows what Nexon Korea's plans for the rest of the year are, as early as late January (the time the Q/A session was conducted).
"If (I) had been paying attention"? Oh boy, this is going to be fun.

Now if only I had acknowledged that a representative from Nexon America may not be totally informed... OH WAIT! I TOTALLY DID!
Here's where you should have been paying attention though. Tell me, what does the name of the corespondent say?
Pretty sure it says "nxeurydice".

Not familiar with Eurydice?
Well, he/she/whatever-it-is is a developer, not just a PR employee (at least not exclusively).
Part of its job is knowing what is coming up in the development cycle.

Why wouldn't Nexon of America know what Nexon Korea had planned?
Nintendo of America knows pretty damn well what Nintendo of Japan has in the works (that's just one example of how a successful international company communicates).

Also, do you have any idea how much time it takes to develop game content?
I'll draw a picture for you:
The first public image of the Mechanic, found here, was seen in late April of last year.
The Mechanic class hit the test server in late July of the same year.
That's three whole months from what looks to be a near-finalized piece of in-game art to release.

If you think Nexon doesn't know it's going to release a new class at least half a year before it comes out, you're nuts.

Alilatias Wrote:Also, if you had been paying attention to the KMS anniversary events, Spadow showed a week and a half ago that the pirate girl has been named and turned into an actual NPC named Valerie. The extractions here show her as an NPC as well. In fact, before this event, her artwork has been used to represent female adventurer pirates since forever. Nothing new here.
My apologies; I'm not among those whose mouths are constantly at Spadow's crotch.

I did, however, know she was an NPC in whatever the bandstand thing is (I do pay attention to extractions).
I also knew that her artwork has represented female Adventurer pirates for quite a while.
That's exactly my point though: she's an unimportant character whose character art was pulled to fill a hole.

All I see is a video that needed five female characters for the choreography to work.
Elf-girl being there is as random as the pirate-girl being in the bandstand.
There's no emphasis put on her, she gets no more screen-time than anyone else, and there's no sort of "introduction" for her.
Pulling theories out of this is just as bad as trying to pull theories out of the Jump logo.
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#69
Viaje Wrote:Elf-girl being there is as random as the pirate-girl being in the bandstand.
It is, however, Elf-girl's debut in any kind Maplestory media.

Why not just use one of the many existing female NPCs?
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#70
Maybe she can fly, like using the soar skill anywhere :3
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#71
Viaje Wrote:If you think Nexon doesn't know it's going to release a new class at least half a year before it comes out, you're nuts.


My apologies; I'm not among those whose mouths are constantly at Spadow's crotch.

I did, however, know she was an NPC in whatever the bandstand thing is (I do pay attention to extractions).
I also knew that her artwork has represented female Adventurer pirates for quite a while.
That's exactly my point though: she's an unimportant character whose character art was pulled to fill a hole.

All I see is a video that needed five female characters for the choreography to work.
Elf-girl being there is as random as the pirate-girl being in the bandstand.
There's no emphasis put on her, she gets no more screen-time than anyone else, and there's no sort of "introduction" for her.
Pulling theories out of this is just as bad as trying to pull theories out of the Jump logo.

Still, if you think he's going to outright tell us that new classes are in development, especially with the negative reaction that new classes are having among parts of the GMS community (not to mention the fact that we had -just- recieved three new classes then), you're equally nuts. Remember, this is a GMS PR event, in which the big topic of the day was Chaos.

Last year was also full of leaks (MSEA contest winners visited Nexon Korea offices to bring back an image of Edelstein, patching some Resistance skills into the test server beforehand, and Nexon realizing their [censored]-up with that Mechanic image in their video but took it down too late). Did we know anything about the Knights of Cygnus before the Striker was first patched into the test server two and a half years ago? Aran before he suddenly hit the test server two years ago?

Evan having dragon equipment about a month beforehand I'll give. And we knew about Dual Blade beforehand because the KMS site hinted at its existence directly. (But then what does that make Elf Girl, in which Nexon is already saying that she's some sort of 'new character'?)

(Actually, the first half of last year was pretty messed up in terms of scheduling too. We did know due to a press conference around the time of Evan/Adventurer Rebalancing that there was supposed to be a big patch that March. Cue massively disappointed people when the anticipated 'big update' was just Hob King PQ along with skill strings for Resistance skills. Then April comes around with the potential system and such, and May hits us with the Resistance - with skills under pre-Big Bang standards, no less - and it turns out that the 'big update' in March was in reality pushed back to June/July as the Big Bang. Come to think of it, I think it's funny that we knew that much about the Resistance beforehand, yet nothing about Big Bang was blatantly leaked.)

Also, it's been almost a full year since new classes were released in KMS. Anyone who thinks Nexon Korea is going to go any longer without releasing a new class is nuts too. It may not be part of the Jump update, but I'm damned sure it's going to at least be part of some big Summer update, especially what with the Jump updates suspiciously ending with the Archers (in May, no less) and absolutely no mention of the Thieves and Pirates recieving a revamp as of yet.

Then this elf girl shows up. I don't know how you can compare pirate girl's 'art being pulled to fill a void' and elf girl's 'new art being created to fill a void'.
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#72
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This kinda' looks fake to me, found it on basil.
It'd be kinda' neat if it was real, but it looks too, well, sloppy, for an official image. Plus october is pretty far away.
Not to mention all the english text. I mean c'mon.
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#73
...looks very fake. I don't see how you could think it's real.
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#74
Dusk Wrote:...looks very fake. I don't see how you could think it's real.

Eh, still, it's a pretty neat shop.
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#75
MuscleWizard Wrote:snip

This kinda' looks fake to me, found it on basil.
It'd be kinda' neat if it was real, but it looks too, well, sloppy, for an official image. Plus october is pretty far away.
Not to mention all the english text. I mean c'mon.

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Definite fake.
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#76
MuscleWizard Wrote:[Image: IAN-Azure_Kingdom.jpg]

This kinda' looks fake to me, found it on basil.
It'd be kinda' neat if it was real, but it looks too, well, sloppy, for an official image. Plus october is pretty far away.
Not to mention all the english text. I mean c'mon.
That just looks terrible. I doubt it's Ian anyway.
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#77
Viaje Wrote:Also, can someone explain why we're making a big deal about the unnamed archer and not the unnamed pirate girl?

Because all the elements related to this character are new to the game, because the only elf in MS (other than the 4th job masters) is the archer master Athena Perice and because spadow informs that Nexon has declared this is a totally new character. Given it could be anything, like a new NPC, but until something else comes up, we are free to speculate.

Another thing to say is Nexon Korea decided to take a break from making new classes, and It's been almost a year since the last class was released there (Mechanic). Going by the dates of release of all classes since Pirates, Nexon was releasing new classes every six months (pirates-cygnus-aran-evan), then they rushed up and started adding classes every 3 months(dual blade-resistance) and even 1 month if you separate mechanics from the resistance. A 1 year break sounds like enough time for a break, It also would end in summer, perfect time to release a new class.
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#78
There isn't very many things they could do with the archer hero that would be unique at all. Maybe they could have them fly while using attacks? It would be like that old game conquer online but could work in maple.

I can't think of many things they could do with an archer to make it legendary can you guys?
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#79
Duelman Wrote:There isn't very many things they could do with the archer hero that would be unique at all. Maybe they could have them fly while using attacks? It would be like that old game conquer online but could work in maple.

I can't think of many things they could do with an archer to make it legendary can you guys?

Just one thing: Aiming. Like swordstalker said on his post, the new archer hero could have the ability to aim and shoot horizontally, vertically or diagonally, or having to calculate the trajectory of your shoots (like in gunbound) to hit monsters.
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#80
I would like to see Nexon deviate from the five standard classes and focus on new interesting jobs. Like a fisherman originating from Lith. He uses fishing rods and small knives. His attacks mainly include reeling mobs in and slicing them up. He also carries dynamite around because he's a bit of a cheat. Final job would include a MOTORBOAT and he creates magical waves that engulf enemies and such.
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