Bin Laden dead? What?

I thought it was Ben Laden

Do you think that his human rights were violated by doing so? Also, do you think it is okay to "sacrifice" a person because there is a too great risk by saving them/catching them/keeping them "hostages"?

Once he himself chose to become a constant threat to the safety of others for his own motivations and beliefs, some sacrifice had to be made: either his rights, or the safety or lives of his future targets.

At some point, it became an issue of choosing the 'lesser' of evils. Like most of everything in life, its never as simple as black and white. Was he murdered? definitely. Did they stop him from contributing any further to the threat this terrorist group poses to others? Yes they did.

I hope to think that its not really the murder being celebrated, but rather the end of the threat he was bringing. Not to say that the threat is gone, but he can no longer contribute to it, either actively, as a figurehead, or as a source of motivation for the rest of the group.

You find a wanted man worth 25million dollars to have rights?

Oh, I did by no mean say anything about his rights. I just asked questions.

He lost any rights when he chose his way of life.

What human rights? He was a worldwide criminal -_-

Once he himself chose to become a constant threat to the safety of others for his own motivations and beliefs, some sacrifice had to be made: either his rights, or the safety or lives of his future targets.

But where is the limit? How many less people would he have to kill (responsible for, at least) in order to not lose his rights, as you guys say he did? Or is there some other measure of "evil"/dangerous?

But where is the limit? How many less people would he have to kill (responsible for, at least) in order to not lose his rights, as you guys say he did? Or is there some other measure of "evil"/dangerous?

More often than not, I'd say the limit reached is represented by the eagerness to continue doing the same thing.

But where is the limit? How many less people would he have to kill (responsible for, at least) in order to not lose his rights, as you guys say he did? Or is there some other measure of "evil"/dangerous?

Personally, I don't place a terribly large amount of value on human life, seeing as there are more humans alive than ever and the number will continue to exponentiate until the planet can no longer support us. It's more logical to remove anyone that is a threat with impunity; the only problem with this is that the powers that be would begin to abuse that power, which is, sadly, the main thing that makes humans human; abusing power and lusting for more at all times. Greed is the greatest emotion any human will ever feel; either in order to gain status, material, attention, self fulfillment, women, food, water, shelter, even the simple desire to breathe air. Not saying other creatures aren't filled with the emotion too, but with our self awareness ours is amplified greatly. Technically, allowing people like him to roam freely would keep the population issue in check, since they would be busy killing everyone they disagreed with, but even someone like myself would find that to be a pretty crappy situation, lol. Much better to simply continue the birth limitations across the globe and regulate it in a civilized manner, eh. I'm not a clever enough person to come up with better solutions to the world's issues, and so far it seems no one else has been either, so until that person comes along, I guess we just have to deal with this kind of thing and hope it was the best decision in the long run.

Navy SEALS 1, Marines 0.

Navy SEALS 1, Osama Bin Laden 0.

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Just a random thought after reading certain posts here...

There's no such thing as righteous killing or lesser of evils or whatever. That's just trying to justify and sugarcoat the truth.

Murder is murder, period. If you think murder is evil, then all murder is evil. There can be no exceptions.

Bottom line is, any group or individual does what it needs to be done in order to defend their world/way of life/ideals/etc. That's what happened here.

It's the burden of anyone or anything that takes a certain stance in life. Sometimes in order to defend your stance, murder might be necessary. Other times trampling over the "rights" of people, bending certain "rules" or lying might be necessary. And in what might be the act closest to the ideal existence of justice and goodness people fantasize about; people compromise for the sake of mutual benefit.

There's nothing good or righteous here. Unless you believe murder can bring about something good or righteous. Either way, an individual was killed for the sake of those who deemed his existence dangerous. In my eyes, that's all there is to it.

Everyone's disgusted in people celebrating his death, celebrating it themselves, or they just don't care either way. His death represents more then just the death of a human; it represents the death of a terrorist who took many lives of loved ones. They don't see him as a person anymore, but only as a villain who has been brought to justice. They celebrate this triumph and not his death, exactly, even if that triumph came at the cost of his life. At least he was given a respectful burial and his death wasn't a long and drawn out ordeal. There isn't much more a man that has committed the evil deeds he has can ask for in death.

Osama Bin Laden is dead now, and there isn't much we can do about it now but move on and prepare for what may or may not come as a result.

Agreed @ Mira.

And the same mixed sentiment is just gonna go on at this rate, even though I'm kinda surprised and disappointed at some of the... meh reactions. I mean gee... I wonder how many people would feel the same way if they lost someone they loved? Huh? Yeah sure.

Thread lock please. Or continue the issue in the dome or something.