Nintendo's New Console

1. Not to do with the system.



2. they called it motion plus



3. Seriously? it's the goddamn batman nintendo. they don't need to hear your pomegranatety opinion.



4. I think there is actually an update coming for this, because an update can do that.



5. You serious right now? most games are 3rd party. Some of the best titles in fact. if you're not finding and playing them that's on you.



6. again, youse trollin?



8. Yeah, like any of the wii games anyone has mentioned thus far into the thread.

The more i examine your post, the more ridiculous it seems.

1. Then they should stop coming out with multi games that I can only play when I'm having a party.

2. It's still delayed and not perfected. It's Wii+ -Perfection and if you haven't perfected it you should do more then to act like a 3 year old and shove it to the ground for being to hard. Nintendo wanted to do this so someone needs to be the "ass" of a parent and instead of giving them the next plaything to shut them up: sit their asses down, throw the controller on the table, and say "you started, now finish it"

3. Player Feedback as in I actually feel like I'm hitting something or getting hit. I'm not asking for tron here. But most games that involve using the Wii to fight can be beaten by flailing your arm around.

4. Not sure if serious. If you're being sarcastic I never said it had to be software.

5. I mean third party outside of the ones that only don't become first party because of all the cash they rank in, E.G. Capcom and Sega (possibly ubisoft). I'm not saying big names = not 3rd party, but Wii more or less flips anyone off without a resume sheet as long as the Sahara because they're to afraid to expose their little Wii (lol) to some strangers with creativity (once again: lol). Wii sells big numbers but I stop caring when those big numbers are just from the same damn game. Wii sports is a nice way of "N" bragging how they "slightly" improved the wii-mote to make less of a hassle but still a hassle. And if it seems like I'm being cruel it's only because the Wii does nothing but brag about how it's about the motion and the motion still needs work after 5 years.

6. If you couldn't tell, that was all one complaint. I'm well aware it's recognition, it's what it's being recognized for.

7. Games such as? I've yet to see someone say: "Can't wait to play Okami 2 or No More Heros 3 on this" or anything outside of what falls under nostalgia and games that are good for a wii game.

I don't deny I'm a bit eccentric, I just prefer not to gobble Miyamoto's balls as soon as they're in my visual line of sight. I'm not saying he's a bad guy but for FFS nearly every member is afraid to express one ounce of creativity in fear it'll get the same reputation of sonic (which, if you look at the overall feeling of "windwaker", you kind of realize they're probably right).

Not to mention that Motion Plus is a necessary accessory for smooth gameplay that should've come with the Wii and since it didn't it should've been given out insanely cheap if not free. Having to pay $30 for something that should've been there by default is fucking retarded.

Not to mention that Motion Plus is a necessary accessory for smooth gameplay that should've come with the Wii and since it didn't it should've been given out insanely cheap if not free. Having to pay $30 for something that should've been there by default is pineappleing retarded.

games not intended to use it, don't benefit from having it. It actually adds a new hardware element to the entire thing where it detects the position of the remote regardless of it being pointed at the screen. personally i never had any issue with the motion control. but yeah making it mandatory instead of optional would have been great when they were trying to make the most affordable and massively appealing system of all time.

wait no it wouldn't.

just noticed i deleted my 7 and didnt change numbers, lol.

erebus your last post was seriously just a massive pile of what the f'uck and then i got to number 3 and gave up reading your tendency to generalize everything with what seems like virtually zero experience is uh, idiotic.

whatever performance issue either of you may feel the wii has and are going on about i have just two things to remind you of. every single original release ps3 had a goddamn cooling problem/xboxes have for their entire life been notorious for completely failing for no evident reason repeatedly. They made and LED state just for it.

i seriously want you to consider your own point here:

4. Not sure if serious. If you're being sarcastic I never said it had to be software.

as you are bashing them for making a new more powerful system. you don't "update" systems. it's a retarded greedy ploy to get more money while delivering next to nothing to your consumers. OH a ps2 slim how great it's so awesome i cant wait for this to be obsoleted by the playstation slim plus. or, you know the ps3. release new and updated systems this late in console life is just preying on fanbois (read: here's looking at you playstation and xbox variants 1-1000). It's a shitty money-grubbing concept. Yet, here is you, a consumer, actually demanding it? they don't need a kinect accessory, that came standard. You're essentially on them for innovating instead of being a clone of the other two consoles which copy them so incessantly that nintendo actually develops 2 consoles at a time.

games not intended to use it, don't benefit from having it. It actually adds a new hardware element to the entire thing where it detects the position of the remote regardless of it being pointed at the screen. personally i never had any issue with the motion control. but yeah making it mandatory instead of optional would have been great when they were trying to make the most affordable and massively appealing system of all time.

wait no it wouldn't.

just noticed i deleted my 7 and didnt change numbers, lol.

erebus your last post was seriously just a massive pile of what the f'uck and then i got to number 3 and gave up.

Once again I stand by this ideal: If you do nothing but brag about how fun it is to handle your Wii, you better make damn sure it handles perfectly.

The grammar has been fixed.

Once again I stand by this ideal: If you do nothing but brag about how fun it is to handle your Wii, you better make damn sure it handles perfectly.

The grammar has been fixed.

i was editing while you did that, i posted a bit prematurely. and i didn't mean your grammar. i mean like "what the hell is the point of what i am reading right now, does he realize he is contradicting himself a pomegranate load."

out of sheer curiosity, how many wiiware games have you played? If i had to guess i'd say zero. I really don't think you've explored the consoles library at all.

games not intended to use it, don't benefit from having it. It actually adds a new hardware element to the entire thing where it detects the position of the remote regardless of it being pointed at the screen. personally i never had any issue with the motion control. but yeah making it mandatory instead of optional would have been great when they were trying to make the most affordable and massively appealing system of all time.

wait no it wouldn't.

just noticed i deleted my 7 and didnt change numbers, lol.

erebus your last post was seriously just a massive pile of what the f'uck and then i got to number 3 and gave up reading your tendency to generalize everything with what seems like virtually zero experience is uh, idiotic.

whatever performance issue either of you may feel the wii has and are going on about i have just two things to remind you of. every single original release ps3 had a goddamn cooling problem/xboxes have for their entire life been notorious for completely failing for no evident reason repeatedly. They made and LED state just for it.

i seriously want you to consider your own point here:

as you are bashing them for making a new more powerful system. you don't "update" systems. it's a retarded greedy ploy to get more money while delivering next to nothing to your consumers. OH a ps2 slim how great it's so awesome i cant wait for this to be obsoleted by the playstation slim plus. or, you know the ps3. release new and updated systems this late in console life is just preying on fanbois (read: here's looking at you playstation and xbox variants 1-1000). It's a pomegranatety money-grubbing concept. Yet, here is you, a consumer, actually demanding it? they don't need a kinect accessory, that came standard. You're essentially on them for innovating instead of being a clone of the other two consoles which copy them so incessantly that nintendo actually develops 2 consoles at a time.

PS3 and 360 never showed off there systems by claiming them to be revolutionary gems of awesome and innovation, more or less they we're playstation 2 + and Xbox + so that's what I expected, and that's what I got. I expect the Wii to meet the expectations they set which is working innovation (and please don't think just because I don't love playing with my Wii that I'm a kinect fan because that's what you seem to be assuming). Also what the hell does the performance of the PS3 and 360 original release style console have to do anything? Are you basically saying those other two suck so "N" should get free pass? I'm sorry but no, there are certain excuses that fly but "everyone sucks and so can I" is not one of them.

I'd prefer hardware upgrade to it's maximum potential, master what you can before move on to the next thing. If all Microsoft did was release the basic service pack upgrade with windows 7 and give a big "pineapple you" to it's consumers by saying "I hope you're happy with it because that's all you're going to get" there would be a riot from every PC fanboy. I in no way expect perfection the first time around, so you need to perfect the technology over time and Nintendo more or less gave a big middle finger to that idea by giving one upgrade that in all honesty made it a "bit better" and by that I do mean a "bit" (also if we're playing corporation grabbing tactics the DS handheld would like to introduce you to it's MANY friends which are the equivalent to Apple and their I-Pods).

i was editing while you did that, i posted a bit prematurely. and i didn't mean your grammar. i mean like "what the hell is the point of what i am reading right now, does he realize he is contradicting himself a pomegranate load."

out of sheer curiosity, how many wiiware games have you played? If i had to guess i'd say zero. I really don't think you've explored the consoles library at all.

Played it a lot and the experience was lacking, in a basic sense I felt like I was doing nothing more then playing flash games on newgrounds (I didn't exactly shell out nearly $300 for an xbox to play the Indie section, when I meant 3rd party games I meant things like LBG where it lasted me more then 30 minutes ) I come across the occasional something or other that doesn't make me regret spending money on it.

You're acting like any console puts out any decent games anymore. Other than the Zelda franchise, I tend to stay away from console games. All I ever hear about with XBox and PS3 are FIRST PERSON SHOOTER GAMES! "<Company name> HAS JUST RELEASED <generic FPS title> 3! THIS IS THE MOST BADASS THING SINCE FOREVER!" .......Seriously? You point and shoot. What's so ground breaking about that? ._.

Console video gaming, as a whole, has been disappointing since the end of the Nintendo 64 era. Even then... I felt like there were a lack of great games.

I'm not really going to be too impressed with video gaming until they start making classic-style games that would make gaming fun again OR until they release one of the following :

Virtual Reality (I don't see this ever happening, to be honest...)
Holographic Video Gaming (I'm not sure how this would work, either)

Motion control is decent and all, but is it really great for gaming? I think using controllers is a much better option for quite the majority of video games. Motion controls seem nice on sports games, dancing games, or even games like Zelda (while still using a controller, of course... If it turns into Kinect type gameplay... I'm not touching it), where motion controls would actually enhance the game. Even then... it can be too tedious to bother with, especially if you've just gotten off a long work day or something similar.


TL;DR : I'm not excited for the next console at this point. As long as they don't delay Skyward Sword and release it specifically for the next console, I don't give a sh'it. If they do, I'll rage and my blood will boil hotter than all of the lava in hell.

B'itch please, the Wii was amazing for toddlers and middle aged ladies, but you can't deny the fact that it was somewhat dumb for real/semi-hardcore gamers. It's obvious that most gamers felt disappointed by the lack of improving the Wii showed.

The Motion Controller has already fallen back too much compared to how smooth the Kinect and Move are, obviously after more developing. The only problem with the Wii is that it hasn't aged well, and it really starts to show its 5 years in the market. Even if they still sell, it hasn't received a super expected game in months, like when MH Tri arrived or No More Heroes 2.

PS3 and 360, especially PS3 with the price cut and the pirating, have become much more appealing after getting a more bigger and appealing catalogue for classic gamer audiences.

Nintendo also recovered a lot of popularity, outside America specifically, since around Europe and the rest of the world the N brand could be seen only on handhelds. The N64 and the Gamecube were major flops sadly, and the Wii sales had to deal with that.

If Nintendo releases a powerful console on the vein of the PS3/360 and it fails, Nintendo definitely has a problem dealing with major 3rd parties and dishing out top-tier tools for developers and, in the end, good games for the not-casual audience.

The Wii never had anything amazing. Do people even actually look at the Wii's library? Granted, the technology used for the Wiimote and how it was incorporated into a fun fitness daily morning routine helps people out there that wants to have fun while getting into shape, but I never saw anything spectacular on the Wii. The only thing Nintendo has that's relatively interesting (to me) nowadays are the Pokemon franchise. That and maybe Zelda games that are still coming out or being re-made to have better quality.

Some of the more recent games that appeals to audiences nowadays are mostly FPS and games similar to Monster Hunter, as Rob mentioned in his post. The first couple MH games weren't even on Nintendo consoles. Nintendo doesn't really have anything interesting. Well, ok, if you consider 'imports', then my statement is invalidated and doesn't mean squat (when it comes to their portables).

PS: Even if Nintendo does go first, and be the 1st company to release their new console, it doesn't mean jack. Sony or Microsoft can easily learn from Nintendo's mistake and make their console even better.

Like I said before, the Wii had a great library of games. Expansive? Maybe not. But the games were at the very least solid, good games.

Here it is again.
No More Heroes (1 and 2), SMB Galaxy (1 and 2), Smash Bros Brawl, Twilight Princess, DKC Returns, Kirby's epic yarn, Metroid Prime 3, Trauma Series, World of Goo, Monster Hunter Tri, Zack and Wiki, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Muramasa, NSMB Wii, WarioLand, Bit.Trip. series, Okami. These were all good games. Plus there's the unreleased stuff like Xenoblade, The Last Story, Pandora's Tower.

Fact is, the Wii doesn't have many RPGs or FPSes and maybe your reflecting your opinions on the genre you like. But all the games mentioned above are great games.

Like I said before, the Wii had a great library of games. Expansive? Maybe not. But the games were at the very least solid, good games.

Here it is again.
No More Heroes (1 and 2), SMB Galaxy (1 and 2), Smash Bros Brawl, Twilight Princess, DKC Returns, Kirby's epic yarn, Metroid Prime 3, Trauma Series, World of Goo, Monster Hunter Tri, Zack and Wiki, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Muramasa, NSMB Wii, WarioLand, Bit.Trip. series, Okami. These were all good games. Plus there's the unreleased stuff like Xenoblade, The Last Story, Pandora's Tower.

Fact is, the Wii doesn't have many RPGs or FPSes and maybe your reflecting your opinions on the genre you like. But all the games mentioned above are great games.

Okami isn't a Wii game. Neither is MH Tri, somewhat, but okay. Tri was the best attempt at a super hardcore game in the Wii.

Like I said before, the Wii had a great library of games. Expansive? Maybe not. But the games were at the very least solid, good games.

Here it is again.
No More Heroes (1 and 2), SMB Galaxy (1 and 2), Smash Bros Brawl, Twilight Princess, DKC Returns, Kirby's epic yarn, Metroid Prime 3, Trauma Series, World of Goo, Monster Hunter Tri, Zack and Wiki, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Muramasa, NSMB Wii, WarioLand, Bit.Trip. series, Okami. These were all good games. Plus there's the unreleased stuff like Xenoblade, The Last Story, Pandora's Tower.

Fact is, the Wii doesn't have many RPGs or FPSes and maybe your reflecting your opinions on the genre you like. But all the games mentioned above are great games.

When I was posting earlier, I wasn't reflecting it based off of which genre I prefer or like more. Just overall. Actually, I'm going to be honest and say that I do hate games like Mario Party or platform games. I meant looking at it as a 'whole'.

Most of Nintendo's games seems to appeal to a smaller variety when it comes to the audience. Kids and what else? People that needs to get into shape? Yeah. Actually, video games have gone pretty downhill (imo), PC games are still decent though.

Okami isn't a Wii game. Neither is MH Tri, somewhat, but okay. Tri was the best attempt at a super hardcore game in the Wii.

How do you mean MHTri isn't a Wii game? It's not a port like Okami, it was actually made for the Wii.

EDIT: Adding on to this, MHTri wasn't ported to any other consoles, either.

How do you mean MHTri isn't a Wii game? It's not a port like Okami, it was actually made for the Wii.

According to the people on Southperry, ANY GAME, that has EVER made it to ANY OTHER CONSOLE doesn't deserve to be called a "<Nintendo Console> game."

How do you mean MHTri isn't a Wii game? It's not a port like Okami, it was actually made for the Wii.

EDIT: Adding on to this, MHTri wasn't ported to any other consoles, either.

I know Tri isn't a port, but technically it was Monster Hunter 2ndG with underwater fights and some stuff from MH Freedom for the PC. All the stuff in Tri, except for the retarded underwater fights, and more was included in Monster Hunter Portable 3rd, but that's a technicality. It's the only recent MH game on a home console and that's fabulous. I wasn't arguing about that.

According to the people on Southperry, ANY GAME, that has EVER made it to ANY OTHER CONSOLE doesn't deserve to be called a "<Nintendo Console> game."

Quit b'itchin' Justin, I liked the Wii myself, but that argument you brought up is just stupid.

According to the people on Southperry, ANY GAME, that has EVER made it to ANY OTHER CONSOLE doesn't deserve to be called a "<Nintendo Console> game."

but freedom is a different game and is a normal part of how MH games work. Also rob forgot paper mario which is an rpg (sort of) and is awesome. i don't think he mentioned DKR either which was a great game. and GH5 likely the best guitar hero game was the best on the wii out of any console (don't take my word for it though, i'm pretty sure IGN agrees). Do i really need to point at the top playstation titles or top xbox titles and point out how they are ALL the same. don't get me wrong i like FPSes but having them be the top title of the month every month is a little ridiculous and every game that wasn't halo basically wasn't an exclusive title so why does the wii need to have it? If you are a "hardcore gamer" you probably have a PC and two consoles, or 1 console and it isn' the wii. IF you bought the wii with the mindset on a "hardcore gamer" then you made a serious mistake as it was obvious upon release that was not what the system was going to deliver. The complaints about lack of variety seems ridiculous because the variety that is "missing" is abundant as pomegranate everywhere else.

Quit b'itchin' Justin, I liked the Wii myself, but that argument you brought up is just stupid.

What argument?

but freedom is a different game and is a normal part of how MH games work. Also rob forgot paper mario which is an rpg (sort of) and is awesome. i don't think he mentioned DKR either which was a great game.

I don't have a Wii myself, I've just played a friend's, hence why I don't mention what games are or aren't worth it.

What argument?

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Am I clear enough? If anything SP is one of the most Nintendo lover boards I've seen.

I didn't hear a thing about the 3DS when it came out, but all complaints about the NGP. Pretty informative.

IMO, the Wii2 should just be a console with normal controllers and great graphics. It should also have a kinect-like option for those who wants to move. No need for all this DS-controllers touch screen sh'it. Stay simple please.

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I don't believe I have ever said any of that. If you can point out where I did, I'd be glad to discuss it.

IMO, the Wii2 should just be a console with normal controllers and great graphics. It should also have a kinect-like option for those who wants to move. No need for all this DS-controllers touch screen sh'it. Stay simple please.

Yes nintendo don't expand our horizons please, keep everything the same change is the worst thing ever and you've never had success with it in the past. We know better than you nintendo, furreal. I'm shocked that it seems like the minority that thinks it's good that nintendo is doing what nintendo does... be willing to let them surprise you, jesus. i mean have people really considered the track record of the company here, or how it has changed the face of vidya games time and time again? People are hating on concepts from the company that is known for them. Even better when the concept is mostly speculation by gaming journals. Don't believe me? Nintendo is more close lipped than apple and we get better and more innovative things than the nintendo ipad (don't freak out ihards, i'm not making this about apple, it's just an analogy).