Why do I complain about DBs?

The reason why I called the DB "Weak" is because since everyone is fantasizing over DB "OPness", they base it off the girl with about 100k+ range. Which is really humourous if anything.

No. The reason why Mechanic and DB are OP is cause they are too well-rounded. As for DB, they also have legit godmode.

[video=youtube;CWrHtOOqH6s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWrHtOOqH6s[/video]

Stop pretending like they aren't OP, lol.
Brb bandwagon.

(There was a solo video that took just as long but I can't find it.. )

The guy in the video posted by the thread starter is indeed weak compared to those fighting CZak...

to all you db bandwagoners f3, im still better than you until you get some nx

The guy in the video posted by the thread starter is indeed weak compared to those fighting CZak...

And to think even a "weak" DB can survive on its own at Empress.

No. The reason why Mechanic and DB are OP is cause they are too well-rounded. As for DB, they also have legit godmode.

[video=youtube;CWrHtOOqH6s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWrHtOOqH6s[/video]

Stop pretending like they aren't OP, lol.
Brb bandwagon.

(There was a solo video that took just as long but I can't find it.. )

Seriously guys.
Where are you getting your "Godmode" statement from, Satellite? And jeez iRyahn, I never knew that one dual blader classified the entire class as OP. For your information broseph, DB skills have a weak %yield of damage and are only "OP" because of the way the damage formula now works. You need a high attack blade and dagger to even think about getting high damage. Not even Casper is a good representation of the average dual blader, because he's funded out the ass.

My point of posting that video was the one dualblade was hitting way much more then the original post; well even the other ones too (actually saw a few max damages on that spin attack if you look to the right), this DB is alot stronger proving that the guy in the first video soloing Empress isn't that funded. Look at ANY other Dual Blade video from KMS after Chaos, and they are pretty much all stronger then the Empress solo. I would bet my money that he isn't funded out the wazoo like most of you think.

and to prove it's not just 'one' video classifying the class as OP, even though there's already two videos posted here so that doesn't make much sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rqhx055KK8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y9OZOz9k...re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Sbfae1E...re=related

I could post DB videos all day and even the un-funded ones or average ones deal insane damage compared to other classes. & Hey, i'm not complaining since I have a Dual Blade and all and can't wait to rape but to deny that they are OP is kind of dumb. Don't get me wrong, i'm sure he has quite a bit of funding, but not as much as any other class would need to do so much damage/survive and even have the potential to solo Empress.

>Description of the Videos.
Pap video: "Uploaded by Popnbake on Jan 18, 2011
Famous DB in kms with around 380-400% potential."

All the videos you've shown me so far are of Dual Bladers with an INSANE amount of %luk that doesn't represent the "average" group of maplers. Show me a video of an "unfunded" Dual Blader. Good luck trying to get 56k range by the way.

Let me save your fu`cking time actually.
[video=youtube;y5Db4DlGwxk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Db4DlGwxk[/video]
[video=youtube;3iYYSzafybY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iYYSzafybY[/video]

That guy has about 4x% LUK, which is somewhat average. The sudden spikes you see with damage is due to Final Cut, if anything. Keep in mind that Mirror Image hits will sometimes be greater than regular hits due to the way the stupid damage formula works.

My point of posting that video was the one dualblade was hitting way much more then the original post; well even the other ones too (actually saw a few max damages on that spin attack if you look to the right), this DB is alot stronger proving that the guy in the first video soloing Empress isn't that funded. Look at ANY other Dual Blade video from KMS after Chaos, and they are pretty much all stronger then the Empress solo. I would bet my money that he isn't funded out the wazoo like most of you think.

and to prove it's not just 'one' video classifying the class as OP, even though there's already two videos posted here so that doesn't make much sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rqhx055KK8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y9OZOz9k...re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Sbfae1E...re=related

I could post DB videos all day and even the un-funded ones or average ones deal insane damage compared to other classes. & Hey, i'm not complaining since I have a Dual Blade and all and can't wait to rape but to deny that they are OP is kind of dumb. Don't get me wrong, i'm sure he has quite a bit of funding, but not as much as any other class would need to do so much damage/survive and even have the potential to solo Empress.

me too...

[video=youtube;7ZTJO6YfUU8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZTJO6YfUU8&feature=channel_video_title[/video]
[video=youtube;G054HhEn5eY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G054HhEn5eY&feature=channel_video_title[/video]

the average Dual blade. I love the people that bandwagon with only, 10bil funding OR LESS, b/c this is the damage they will deal at best.

I'm with Locked on this one. Average is generally around 4x% at best, which should not yield 56k range.

However, I would like to mention that the reason I think DB's are OP isn't because of their damage, but the fact they can do nearly everything that other classes cannot do. They have a 1vs1 attack with incredible strength, intense mobbing ability, burst damage from Final Cut, rushing capabilities, can blind monsters albeit having a cooldown, and I believe after Chaos, they are self sustaining in regards to HP. What's worse is that 30%/20% boss damage now stacks post-chaos. DBs can have up to 6 lines of Boss Damage potential and just terrorize Maple bosses.

Only downside is it's entirely a close quarters class. But that's remedied by vamp as we see here.

Only downside is it's entirely a close quarters class. But that's remedied by vamp as we see here.

Like how Archer's minimum range used to be remedied by Power Knock-back's insane DPS.

My point of posting that video was the one dualblade was hitting way much more then the original post; well even the other ones too (actually saw a few max damages on that spin attack if you look to the right), this DB is alot stronger proving that the guy in the first video soloing Empress isn't that funded. Look at ANY other Dual Blade video from KMS after Chaos, and they are pretty much all stronger then the Empress solo. I would bet my money that he isn't funded out the wazoo like most of you think.

and to prove it's not just 'one' video classifying the class as OP, even though there's already two videos posted here so that doesn't make much sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rqhx055KK8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y9OZOz9k...re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Sbfae1E...re=related

I could post DB videos all day and even the un-funded ones or average ones deal insane damage compared to other classes. & Hey, i'm not complaining since I have a Dual Blade and all and can't wait to rape but to deny that they are OP is kind of dumb. Don't get me wrong, i'm sure he has quite a bit of funding, but not as much as any other class would need to do so much damage/survive and even have the potential to solo Empress.

Why the hell would anybody show off their weak damage? People only post this stuff because they are confident enough about people not ranting how they are weak.

the average Dual blade. I love the people that bandwagon with only, 10bil funding OR LESS, b/c this is the damage they will deal at best.

This is the funniest comment in the thread.
A++ sir.

This is the funniest comment in the thread.
A++ sir.

I can't tell if this is serious or sarcastic. But I was serious about what I said. That first video the guy had 11-14k range (the average person with rare potentials), the second video the guy had 16-23k range (a little above average, 61% luk isn't all that common among people). Just my input, unless you have 30k range and 60% boss (30% on dagger and 30% on katara, that is if they stack in gms) dual blades are a fairly weak looking class, certainly other classes are a lot better without funding. 30k range in gms on a dual blade is a good 20bil funding (just a rough guess).

Edit: to add more, in gms the low funded 2handed weapon users have a significant advantage due to the surplus of available 50% scrolls.

Edit: to add more, in gms the low funded 2handed weapon users have a significant advantage due to the surplus of available 50% scrolls.

I'm talking about your "10b funding or less" comment. Please keep in mind that kMS doesn't have any perfect weapons, or rarely any at all due to lack of white scrolls/pam's song/abundant 50% scrolls so I'm not including that budget into the calculations.
10,000,000,000 mesos, supposing you hunt for all your 3-line equips would make NX bought at 1:15 about 666.67k NX.
666.67k NX /1.2k NX = about 555 cubes.
555 fragments = 55 advanced potential scrolls and 1 potential scroll. At an average price of 20m per Advanced Pot Scroll and 7m for a pot scroll you have about 1.17b mesos from potential scrolls selling.
555 cubes is enough to get at least 40-80% LUK if you're willing to cube items equally and if you get lucky. With the extra 1.2b mesos you receive, you can even buy more cubes to cube at your heart's consent.
My point is, 10b funding is enough to get you somewhere.

As the weakest DB of GMS, I could post in this thread and say that it's a fun class and actually gives maple some sort of gameplay, but since this is a maplestory forum and only numbers matter I shall refrain from posting and make myself a cup of coffee instead.
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I can't tell if this is serious or sarcastic. But I was serious about what I said. That first video the guy had 11-14k range (the average person with rare potentials), the second video the guy had 16-23k range (a little above average, 61% luk isn't all that common among people). Just my input, unless you have 30k range and 60% boss (30% on dagger and 30% on katara, that is if they stack in gms) dual blades are a fairly weak looking class, certainly other classes are a lot better without funding. 30k range in gms on a dual blade is a good 20bil funding (just a rough guess).

Edit: to add more, in gms the low funded 2handed weapon users have a significant advantage due to the surplus of available 50% scrolls.

Mesos' value has plummited. 5b used to be around meh, 400$, right now its 8b for 350$. So 10b a month ago is nearly 25b now. And such fluctuations will change overtime.

first, nx is 1:20 in mts
second, 555 cubes to yield 80% is lucky
third, even 60-80% still won't yield an "OP" dual blade (the point of my post, that you obviously missed)
fourth, what does it matter the value of mesos
fifth, cant think of anything, but im sure there are other wrong assumptions you have made in evaluating dual blades and my response to them

first, nx is 1:20 in mts
second, 555 cubes to yield 80% is lucky
third, even 60-80% still won't yield an "OP" dual blade (the point of my post, that you obviously missed)
fourth, what does it matter the value of mesos
fifth, cant think of anything, but im sure there are other wrong assumptions you have made in evaluating dual blades and my response to them

1. It's 1:15 last time I checked a couple seconds ago. But since you're in a different world, NX ratios will tend to differ. Most worlds use 1:15 last time I checked, so I'm assuming Locked used this as a conservative estimate.
EDIT: Reread and noticed MTS. You get more bang for your buck if you directly transfer your mesos into NX with the 1:15 ratio than if you buy a bunch of stuff to MTS. Since almost everyone wants more bang for their buck, I see that Locked's use of 1:15 ratio is justified.
2. He gave a range, not a discrete %. He also said at least.
3. He never said OP, he said that it was "enough to get you somewhere".
4. (I'm assuming that that means the NX: meso ratio) You can convert mesos to NX, cube your equips, sell the advanced potential scrolls you get, convert the mesos you get from that into NX, cube again, rinse and repeat until you're satisfied with the results/run out of supplies. I'm assuming Locked realises this, as he's trying to stress the fact that 10 bil can actually do something.