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I've always found it interesting how society believes that only "White people" can be racist. And don't try to deny it, because you know that's how it is. If you are white and you insult someone of different ethnicity, you are racist. If a black person insults a white person, it isn't a big deal or it is just payback.
How the pineapple is that fair?
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Corn Wrote:The intention is that most black kids are starting out worse than everyone else. The decades of discrimination has left the, in the lower rungs of society so affirmative action hopes to pull more of them out.
Then give money to all people that are worse off. Not just "blacks."
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Anonymous Moose Wrote:Then give money to all people that are worse off. Not just "blacks."
They technically already do that.
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Absolutely. In an attempt to reduce racism it has been nothing but increased. I can count the number of scholarships I can apply for on one hand after you've got my thumb off. And even then I've got too many. They're also worth less than $10k and only tenable for one year. Then I like at ONE specific scholarship for Maori, worth 10s of thousands, tenable for 3-4 years, and more than 20 are offered a year. That is just one example and applicable to my country. But there's no doubting white people are now the oppressed by default.
Oh yeah, and men have it worse.
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GunisBack Wrote:I've always found it interesting how society believes that only "White people" can be racist. And don't try to deny it, because you know that's how it is. If you are white and you insult someone of different origin, you are racist. If a black person insults a white person, it isn't a big deal or it is just payback.
How the pineapple is that fair?
...Who thinks that?
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Corn Wrote:They technically already do that. Depends on what you are talking about. I'm talking about things like Affirmative Action, which only favour some people over others, or the Selective service which requires men, but not women to sign up. None are fair at all, regardless of intentions.
We are not talking about welfare programs that are based on merit (or lack of merit).
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Turtally Wrote:...Who thinks that?
What do you mean who?
It happens everyday. I've seen it on a first-hand basis multiple times.
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Anonymous Moose Wrote:Depends on what you are talking about. I'm talking about things like Affirmative Action, which only favour some people over others, or the Selective service which requires men, but not women to sign up. None are fair at all, regardless of intentions.
We are not talking about welfare programs that are based on merit (or lack of merit).
Financial aid/scholarships?
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GunisBack Wrote:What do you mean who?
It happens everyday. I've seen it on a first-hand basis multiple times.
Must be where you live, because around here, racism is racism. Regardless of who's doing it, and who's receiving it.
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Turtally Wrote:Must be where you live, because around here, racism is racism. Regardless of who's doing it, and who's receiving it.
Where you live must be under a pretty giant rock. I have never seen someone labelled as racist for saying something about a white person.
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Turtally Wrote:Must be where you live, because around here, racism is racism. Regardless of who's doing it, and who's receiving it.
Some areas of the country are different that the rest. I live in an area that lacks racism. Although, I have run into a few sexists pricks. Most being feminists.
Go to Detroit though... and race definitly is an issue down there. At least this is what I felt every time I went there.
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Turtally Wrote:Must be where you live, because around here, racism is racism. Regardless of who's doing it, and who's receiving it.
That actually astonishes me.
Cracker is a racist term, as is nigger, but you don't see blacks being labeled racists for saying the word cracker do you? And how come when black people call other black people "nigga" it's ok? I really don't see the logic in that. It's still a racist term no matter what race is saying it.
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Killed Wrote:That actually astonishes me.
Cracker is a racist term, as is nigger, but you don't see blacks being labeled racists for saying the word cracker do you? And how come when black people call other black people "nigga" it's ok? I really don't see the logic in that. It's still a racist term no matter what race is saying it.
Yes because comparing a recently populated term that compares humans skin color to salted wheat is totally on the level for a word which has historical significance being used as describing a person of being less of worth, ignorant, less then human, a work horse.
C.K Louis said it best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY
You're emotions on how the word effects you are yours to have but to compare it to niggar is ridiculous due to it's historical place in history.
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Erebus Wrote:Yes because comparing a recently populated term that compares humans skin color to salted wheat is totally on the level for a word which has historical significance being used as describing a person of being less of worth, ignorant, less then human, a work horse.
C.K Louis said it best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY
You're emotions on how the word effects you are yours to have but to compare it to niggar is ridiculous due to it's historical place in history.
But it's still ok for them to call each other by a racist slur?
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Rick Wrote:Where you live must be under a pretty giant rock. I have never seen someone labelled as racist for saying something about a white person. Well around my community, if someone was saying some racist against a white person, they would be considered racist. And isn't it more "living under a rock" to have never heard someone being labelled as racist against white people?
Killed Wrote:That actually astonishes me.
Cracker is a racist term, as is nigger, but you don't see blacks being labeled racists for saying the word cracker do you? And how come when black people call other black people "nigga" it's ok? I really don't see the logic in that. It's still a racist term no matter what race is saying it.
I don't see what's so astonishing about a society where racism to one race is the same as racism to another race... It seems like simple logic to me. I mean, shouldn't it be a given that black people can be just as racist to white people as the other way around?
Regarding "cracker" and "nigger", though, you have to look at the intent. If they're saying it in a racist way, it's racist. If they're just saying it as a word, then it's not racist.
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Killed Wrote:But it's still ok for them to call each other by a racist slur?
No it isn't I'm black and I hate it when other black people say it. Who the hell said I thought it was ok or should be done?
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Erebus Wrote:No it isn't I'm black and I hate it when other black people say it. Who the hell said I thought it was ok or should be done?
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