The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help

Freedom of speech != courtesy. Furthermore, it promotes the fact that you're not keeping a cool head, unable to find a good argument, and that it's not worth taking discussions further with you. If you can't accept that, don't reply.

Freedom of speech != courtesy. Furthermore, it promotes the fact that you're not keeping a cool head, unable to find a good argument, and that it's not worth taking discussions further with you. If you can't accept that, don't reply.

Who says I have to be courteous to anyone here when people aren't even using common sense? I'm all about respecting people, but when it comes to crap like this, I hold none.

This isn't the point of the thread, anyway. The point is that Nexon is doing something to help Japan and then people replied saying Japan isn't really giving money to the relief effort or that Nexon is a horrible company for not spelling it out for the dumbest of the dumb.

Your consumers need to understand what you're saying with as little poetic/vague diction used when possible.

Thumbs up to this. Peopla have no idea how much miscommunication and ambiguity workplaces have, where simple things do not get interpreted in a straight-forward and unambiguous manner.

Your comment holds true the most to a company such as Nexon, where the average consumer has middle-school grammar comprehension, and thus can certainly be prone to misinterpreting their text.

Who says I have to be courteous to anyone here when people aren't even using common sense?.

My common sense says that generous americans have been defrauded in the past and that it could happen again. It also says that nexon has shown itself to be dishonest in the past just like the companies that profitted from disasters in the past. Put 2 and 2 together, and you get that there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning whether nexon is being honest or capitalizing on a disaster.

Who says I have to be courteous to anyone here when people aren't even using common sense? I'm all about respecting people, but when it comes to crap like this, I hold none.

This isn't the point of the thread, anyway. The point is that Nexon is doing something to help Japan and then people replied saying Japan isn't really giving money to the relief effort or that Nexon is a horrible company for not spelling it out for the dumbest of the dumb.

You aren't courteous to the people who are using common sense in this thread either. The moral issues here have all been pointed out step by step, example by example, blurb by blurb. You choose to ignore them to benefit your side of the argument.

Yes, Nexon did help Japan with its 1.2million donation. Yes, Nexon offered to donate more. We all got that part well, and aren't disagreeing with you at all on that. However, Nexon did not take heed on removing its vagueness as to what items bought will contribute to the donation. That is the whole issue Sarah has been talking about.

My common sense says that generous americans have been defrauded in the past and that it could happen again.

Your "common sense" also makes it seem all you do is bash Nexon for TRYING to do anything good for once. Nexon is TRYING to help Japan, but all you're doing is saying, "psh. You're not giving money to Japan! You're just trying to make yourself rich!" It only makes you look like an ass and I'm pretty positive I'm not the only one that sees that. We all know that Nexon isn't the best company in the world, but if they say they're donating, we can't do anything but believe them.

I mean, it's not like YOU'RE doing anything different than you did before. If you charge NX, then you charge NX. All YOU do is buy their product. What they do shouldn't matter to YOU, because YOU'RE getting what you paid for.




This thread is f'ucking stupid. This argument is stupid. I'm leaving.

Your "common sense" also makes it seem all you do is bash Nexon for TRYING to do anything good for once. Nexon is TRYING to help Japan, but all you're doing is saying, "psh. You're not giving money to Japan! You're just trying to make yourself rich!" It only makes you look like an ass and I'm pretty positive I'm not the only one that sees that. We all know that Nexon isn't the best company in the world, but if they say they're donating, we can't do anything but believe them.

I mean, it's not like YOU'RE doing anything different than you did before. If you charge NX, then you charge NX. All YOU do is buy their product. What they do shouldn't matter to YOU, because YOU'RE getting what you paid for.




This thread is f'ucking stupid. This argument is stupid. I'm leaving.

And your common sense is to completely ignore the entire post, create a strawman and bash it.

Also,
" say they're donating, we can't do anything but believe them."
Would you believe Madoff if he said that? You cant just take what people say at face value. You have to look at their past actions and see if they are trustworth by actions, not words. Only a fool trusts a man solely by the words they speak.

Since their actions show that they have not been trustworthy, I dont trust them. Its that simple.

By the way, I haven't bought NX in a good long while thanks to me boycotting them after the whole elemental weapon issue and havent started buying yet. Although, I think it would be much better for me to donate directly to the people suffering, so that 100% of the money goes to the families, and I could skip the middle man and I could go another month without nx.
Not to mention, of all the items I would buy, none of them would send a dime to japan, if you read the fine print.

Furthermore, it promotes the fact that you're not keeping a cool head, unable to find a good argument, and that it's not worth taking discussions further with you.

This thread is f'ucking stupid. This argument is stupid. I'm leaving.

I'm not quoting this to show which side won or not. I'm showing this in hopes that you'll grow a little and not misinterpret those who do not agree with you not as those who lack common sense. That's what's prompting you quick to anger, quick to cuss, and quick to lose your cool.

And yet, still no one has answered me how Nexon can be the bad person here when Blizzard, who makes BILLIONS(if not then pretty close to it) each year, hasn't donated a single cent.

And yet, still no one has answered me how Nexon can be the bad person here when Blizzard, who makes BILLIONS(if not then pretty close to it) each year, hasn't donated a single cent.

Not donating doesn't put you in the wrong. It's not their obligation. What Nexon did, however, was donate, but also try to take advantage of the situation by turning it into a business opportunity.

No words can describe what happened on the last pages and it's just wow..Locked and Shikage are 100% right. Plus it's been said and it's being said again it's YOUR own fault if you don't read the print. They SPECIFICALLY said CLICK one of the game links to see DETAILS. It's like going into a clothes store and the sign says: Every item bought in the store goes to the Japan relief funds, except the pants. If you go ahead and buy the pants expecting to help that's your fault because you didn't read.




Surprised those on SP who claim to be the oldest act the most immature

Not donating doesn't put you in the wrong. It's not their obligation. What Nexon did, however, was donate, but also try to take advantage of the situation by turning it into a business opportunity.

Just like it wasn't Nexon's obligation to donate, but they did. So they are doing a good thing.

I don't see how they tried to turn it into a business oppurtunity, I really don't. They clearly stated how it works, and anyone who wants to donate can tell what they have to buy to help out. Let's face it, anyone who is going to buy cubes/etc. is going to buy them anyways, but people who go out to buy nx for this specifically aren't going to by stuff from the game tab because the people who buy that stuff is the people who regularly buy nx.

I really can't believe you guys just expect Nexon to drop all of their profit for a whole week when they are already donating so much. It's like me asking you to go donate your whole salary for the whole week...

Yes, Nexon did help Japan with its 1.2million donation. Yes, Nexon offered to donate more. We all got that part well, and aren't disagreeing with you at all on that. However, Nexon did not take heed on removing its vagueness as to what items bought will contribute to the donation. That is the whole issue Sarah has been talking about.

Her original argument was that you shouldn't donate with given something in return. Check the first few pages.

Hey GunisBack, I like you. You actually have common sense.

What the hell?

The last several pages of this thread is an argument which is just completely and utterly pointless. Nexon is donating a base amount of $1.2 million to Japan, and then adding onto that undoubtedly quite a lot more considering how much NX is spent on things other than in the game tab. Who gives a flying pineapple if it's deceptively worded? They are doing something that almost no other game company is doing, hell, something most other companies in general in the US aren't doing that are bigger than Nexon is. Not to mention, it's quite a lot of money. More than every single one of us could even imagine donating, much less having in the first place.

Seriously, just why argue about something that's going to do a lot of good for a country that needs it? I mean really. :|

What the hell?

The last several pages of this thread is an argument which is just completely and utterly pointless. Nexon is donating a base amount of $1.2 million to Japan, and then adding onto that undoubtedly quite a lot more considering how much NX is spent on things other than in the game tab. Who gives a flying pineapple if it's deceptively worded? They are doing something that almost no other game company is doing, hell, something most other companies in general in the US aren't doing that are bigger than Nexon is. Not to mention, it's quite a lot of money. More than every single one of us could even imagine donating, much less having in the first place.

Seriously, just why argue about something that's going to do a lot of good for a country that needs it? I mean really. :|

+100

Dang you guys must really hate Nexon a lot. They donate 1.2million$ towards helping with natural disaster relief and you still find a way to incriminate them.

Just like it wasn't Nexon's obligation to donate, but they did. So they are doing a good thing.

I don't see how they tried to turn it into a business oppurtunity, I really don't. They clearly stated how it works, and anyone who wants to donate can tell what they have to buy to help out. Let's face it, anyone who is going to buy cubes/etc. is going to buy them anyways, but people who go out to buy nx for this specifically aren't going to by stuff from the game tab because the people who buy that stuff is the people who regularly buy nx.

I really can't believe you guys just expect Nexon to drop all of their profit for a whole week when they are already donating so much. It's like me asking you to go donate your whole salary for the whole week...

We're not expecting Nexon to drop all of its profits for donation. Nor do we expect Nexon is stupid enough to go bankrupt for the sake of another country. That was never the argument to begin with. Those who do expect Nexon to do such a thing need to reorganize their thoughts.

On the topic of obligations, which you're so set on proving Blizzard is evil for whatever reason, yes, you're right. This isn't Nexon's obligation. However, donations were never an obligation of any company to begin with. But the moment a big company (which Nexon is, despite what many may argue) puts words on their official site, on an official document, or on a public press release saying they'll donate, they better honor it. That's when it becomes an obligation. I doubt we have problems here.

The whole issue was with the way Nexon described its methods. Using vague diction, lots of readers were/still are confused and may misinterpret this as helping out Japan through whatever they purchase through Cash Shop. This much isn't true due as pointed out by this thread that items under game tab are exempt from contributing funds towards donations to Japan. While I understand there are individuals who managed to catch this, there are others who did not. What appears to be the case, with much explanation given already throughout the thread, is that Nexon is trying to capitalize upon Japan's misfortune.

In short, if you truly want to donate towards helping Japan's misfortune, cut out the middle-man. Donate directly without getting something back.

In short, if you truly want to donate towards helping Japan's misfortune, cut out the middle-man. Donate directly without getting something back.

Holy.
Shit.

No one can read.

They encouraged it.

We would also encourage you to help those in need in Japan by donating directly to the following aid agencies:

The Red Cross
International Medical Corps
The Salvation Army
Doctors Without Borders/Medecins Sans Frontieres

Holy.
Shit.

No one can read.

They encouraged it.

Holy. pomegranate. You overdramatize everything. This isn't high school drama.

In short, if you truly want to donate towards helping Japan's misfortune, cut out the middle-man. Donate directly without getting something back.

So then what are we arguing about? Cause I said that like 4 pages ago.

Lets just put it this way. This is good for people who normally don't buy nx, but they want to make a difference and buy some nx to fix up their character, or get that shop they've always wanted, etc. , kill 2 birds with one stone.

Does that satisfy everyone?