The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help
#41
You people are over reacting..ME thinks you just want to buy cubes and feel good about it Tongue There shouldn't be strings attached to it. If you want to help Japan then you shouldn't be complaining about not buying cubes and others. If you REALLY want to help then you shouldn't care about the requirements you should just buy knowing it really is going to a good cause.
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#42
Lol not surprising that it would come down to someone nitpicking about nexon's "greed" on the situation. Not only did they donate 1.2million as it is, but giving 100% of the profit of a good chunk of what they make their money from. Instead of looking at it negatively from the outside, look at it from a business standpoint, nexon is NOT a charity, it is a company, they don't even have to donate anything at all. Yet they do, and people will complain that they aren't donating enough of their revenue?

I applaud the fact that nexon is donating anything of their revenue. How many thousands of people spend tons of NX on things other than cube/gach/whatever is in the game tab. You guys act as if nexon is being greedy by still being a company and not turning 100% into a charity. A lot of business donate a portion of their proceeds to charity for things like this, are you mad at them for not giving all their profits?

It's sad that something done for some good still gets so much flack from people who just need to find a reason to bring negativity to a positive cause.
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#43
SwordStaker Wrote:You people are over reacting..ME thinks you just want to buy cubes and feel good about it Tongue There shouldn't be strings attached to it. If you want to help Japan then you shouldn't be complaining about not buying cubes and others. If you REALLY want to help then you shouldn't care about the requirements you should just buy knowing it really is going to a good cause.

Temporarily unblocking you to address this ridiculous post.

The outrage has nothing to do with what they are or are not selling, it's that they haven't done a good enough job specifying what isn't included and are leading people to believe that buying cubes en mass will be helping Japan in some way which simply isn't true. They completely neglected to mention it in this post and in the other one it's not entirely clear what they're talking about (see: Netto not understanding on page 1. He's not stupid and I'm sure he's not the only person who isn't going to get it.)

Being under the belief that you'll be helping will inspire people to buy NX and Nexon knows that. They also know that not everyone is going to read or understand that cubes aren't included. They're attempting to profit off of this which overshadows any good they're doing.

They should have just donated 5% of all proceeds for the next week, then they wouldn't open themselves up to such scrutiny.

Trust Wrote:Lol not surprising that it would come down to someone nitpicking about nexon's "greed" on the situation. Not only did they donate 1.2million as it is, but giving 100% of the profit of a good chunk of what they make their money from. Instead of looking at it negatively from the outside, look at it from a business standpoint, nexon is NOT a charity, it is a company, they don't even have to donate anything at all. Yet they do, and people will complain that they aren't donating enough of their revenue?

I applaud the fact that nexon is donating anything of their revenue. How many thousands of people spend tons of NX on things other than cube/gach/whatever is in the game tab. You guys act as if nexon is being greedy by still being a company and not turning 100% into a charity. A lot of business donate a portion of their proceeds to charity for things like this, are you mad at them for not giving all their profits?

It's sad that something done for some good still gets so much flack from people who just need to find a reason to bring negativity to a positive cause.

I am really happy that they donated $1.2m and think they did something great there, but you can't let someone doing something good blind you to the bad. It doesn't matter if they're a business or not; making money off an attempted fundraiser is pretty awful, and that's what they're doing.

If you would actually read what I'm saying then you'd see that your interpretation is so very, very wrong. I don't think they're not doing enough, I think the way they're going about it is wrong. There's a certain sneakiness involved in this deal and that's very upsetting.
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#44
SwordStaker Wrote:You people are over reacting..ME thinks you just want to buy cubes and feel good about it Tongue There shouldn't be strings attached to it. If you want to help Japan then you shouldn't be complaining about not buying cubes and others. If you REALLY want to help then you shouldn't care about the requirements you should just buy knowing it really is going to a good cause.

The people who want to help Japan would cut out the transaction with Nexon and donate directly. The whole thing isn't about cubes. The whole thing is about a two faced attitude Nexon's placed up about purchases from Cash Shop aside from Game tab items would go towards donations when I'm sure almost 90% of the transactions are for game tab items (which I'm sure almost 90% of these transactions are towards cubes). There's no real feeling good about buying cubes and not helping Japan here. It's just another ploy for Nexon to gain some "respect" from players who think they're sacrificing a lot to help out (although I will admit that 1.2 million is not little).

And before anyone points fingers at my direction for "guilty" cube pleasures, my husband and I donated $500 today at Medecins Sans Frontiers towards Japan, which is infinitely more than what I'll ever spend on charging NX.
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#45
Or they should've just donated 1.2 million and not decided to donate any of their cash shop profits and then this thread wouldn't exist.
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#46
Trust Wrote:Or they should've just donated 1.2 million and not decided to donate any of their cash shop profits and then this thread wouldn't exist.

That might be preferable. Then we could all clap and cheer for their generosity and actually feel good about what they've done for once.

Boy would that be nice.
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#47
Trust Wrote:Or they should've just donated 1.2 million and not decided to donate any of their cash shop profits and then this thread wouldn't exist.

That'd be out of character for Nexon, since they need to have a ploy somewhere to generate money from consumers.
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#48
ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:The people who want to help Japan would cut out the transaction with Nexon and donate directly. The whole thing isn't about cubes. The whole thing is about a two faced attitude Nexon's placed up about purchases from Cash Shop aside from Game tab items would go towards donations when I'm sure almost 90% of the transactions are for game tab items (which I'm sure almost 90% of these transactions are towards cubes). There's no real feeling good about buying cubes and not helping Japan here. It's just another ploy for Nexon to gain some "respect" from players who think they're sacrificing a lot to help out (although I will admit that 1.2 million is not little).

And before anyone points fingers at my direction for "guilty" cube pleasures, my husband and I donated $500 today at Medecins Sans Frontiers towards Japan, which is infinitely more than what I'll ever spend on charging NX.
If you wish to donate directly go for it. NEXON's offering a "reward" to you for donating. You can easily go around that. Buy the new exp cards, get some nice new nx clothes, get the mastery books for your new Evan or DB, get a new store, buy some owls. Get a mount cover. Again you're being too harsh. 1.2 million is A LOT of money. Sure it doesn't scratch the surface of whats needed which is why they're asking for help. They're doing something which should be more than enough. If you wish to not buy the NX but still want to help then just donate. Theres no reason to call out NEXON because they don't offer cubes>.>
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#49
I'm under the impression you read what I said, understood it, and deliberately misinterpreted the message I played across.
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#50
SwordStaker Wrote:If you wish to donate directly go for it. NEXON's offering a "reward" to you for donating. You can easily go around that. Buy the new exp cards, get some nice new nx clothes, get the mastery books for your new Evan or DB, get a new store, buy some owls. Get a mount cover. Again you're being too harsh. 1.2 million is A LOT of money. Sure it doesn't scratch the surface of whats needed which is why they're asking for help. They're doing something which should be more than enough. If you wish to not buy the NX but still want to help then just donate. Theres no reason to call out NEXON because they don't offer cubes>.>

Since when do you receive "Rewards" for donations, or on a more general term, Helping People?

If you want a reward for helping someone then gg for you.
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#51
ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:That'd be out of character for Nexon, since they need to have a ploy somewhere to generate money from consumers.

It makes me wonder how many people that feel the way you do, still continue to play this game despite having so many negative feelings towards the company itself.
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#52
ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:I'm under the impression you read what I said, understood it, and deliberately misinterpreted the message I played across.
I read it and what you said I thought was dumb. So I ignored you're whole "NEXON just wants respect bs." I'm not going to fight with you about this because it's ridiculous.
dante9898 Wrote:Since when do you receive "Rewards" for donations, or on a more general term, Helping People?

If you want a reward for helping someone then gg for you.
Did I say you deserve a reward for helping someone? No. I said NEXON is offering one. You're free to take it if you wish.
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#53
Well, go through rankings and see how many people have clothes. Sure it wouldn't compete to the cube/gach revenue, but it's still something I suppose.
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#54
Trust Wrote:It makes me wonder how many people that feel the way you do, still continue to play this game despite having so many negative feelings towards the company itself.

Probably because the feelings I have for playing the game differ from the feelings I harbor towards the company.

SwordStaker Wrote:I read it and what you said I thought was dumb. So I ignored you're whole "NEXON just wants respect bs." I'm not going to fight with you about this because it's ridiculous.

Reread it again. Then reread this whole thread again. Then reread what you said again. And yeah, I agree, it's better for you to not fight with me.
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#55
DustBunny Wrote:Well, go through rankings and see how many people have clothes. Sure it wouldn't compete to the cube/gach revenue, but it's still something I suppose.

I think anything else extra other than the 1.2 million they are already giving is great. They really don't have to give out anything else from the profits of the cash shop, but hey, this is the internet, no one can win =D.
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#56
Part of me wonders/worries how Nexon's going to treat the items bought through NX generated from NX Surveys are going to play out towards the donations. Hopefully those won't be exempt.
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#57
The problem is not that we want a reward for donating, or that Nexon is giving only so much and no more to Japan.

The problem is that they are attempting to take advantage of those of their players who don't read the fine print, and who think they will be helping Japan by going on a cubing/gaching spree. That sneakiness, as Sarah so aptly put it, is disgusting.
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#58
Trust Wrote:I think anything else extra other than the 1.2 million they are already giving is great. They really don't have to give out anything else from the profits of the cash shop, but hey, this is the internet, no one can win =D.

Actually it WOULD be better if they didn't give out ANY extra dollar aside from the 1.2 million. They may be donating 1.2m for public image purposes, but then they'll make twice or more that amount through playerbase's blindness.

There are 25 category tabs under which various cash items are listed. Nexon is only keeping money spent on ONE single tab. Why? If they simply want to share their earnings with the people in need, which is a normal thing to do, wouldn't it make more sense to donate, say, 50% of their earning? 30%? 10%? 90%? I don't know, you pick. It would also make more sense to outside viewers as well, for Japan to receive half of Nexon America's generated earnings in a particular period of time instead of money generated through purchases in all BUT one item category in a real-cash game store.

But no, we're having the money spent on 24 specific Cashshop categories go to Japan. Why? Because it's a big number. 24/25 = 96% of Nexon's earnings is expected to go to Japan. Holy fucking crap.
In reality, we don't even need to THINK to name 5 best sellers off the top of our heads. In fucking fact, go to the CashShop and have a very good look for yourself. Now then, that 96% suddenly doesn't look so impressive anymore.
That's ONE shadiness from Nexon's side.

The second, and possibly the most disgusting thing Nexon has done up to date, in my opinion, is that Best-sellers tend to, you know, continue to sell well. In reality, many many many businesses in the US (and elsewhere, but I'm speaking from experience) get their customers hooked up through fine prints nobody ever reads. Cubes, 2x EXP cards (which are now fortunately removed), 2x Drop card (which have gained popularity lately due to certain quests), Scissor of Karma, Vicious Hammers are all sizzling hot items, to add, much much much much hotter than any other item that Nexon is giving away to Japan.

So in the end, what happens? Everybody is happy. Japan is happy with 1.2m + the little amount of money anyone actually spends on non-GameCategory items, the players are happy to have got what they have always wanted PLUS the awesomeness of altruism, or pseudo-altruism, Nexon is happy to swim in their new-built 104th swimming pool of gold. Only the few people with bullshit high moral get pissed off by this farce.
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#59
Okay I can't stay quiet you people are pathetic. Just pathetic.
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#60
Let's be honest here, they are not doing this completely out of the kindness of their heart. Also:

-I'd actually like to see proof of this supposed upcoming 1.2 Mil donation (ss/link or it didn't happen). Nexon to false promises is the same as butter is to toast.
-If they really cared for the victims, they'd just mention their donation, not the part about certain (I bet minimal) proceeds from certain CS items going to relief agencies.
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