Dual Blade back to their true Power?

Well, Takebacker took most of the good points towards your argument. Especially with that double pendant CS item.

Herp derp CS attack potion.

the dual pendant slot is pretty much the only thing we have that has the ability to make us on-par with you GMSers.
and I wouldn't call that a potion, but that might just be me.

So, instead of whiney about your prechaos Aran sucking against a Chaos DB(Lol such a comparison would only be made by retards), you can go make a dual blade and then complain about how you sold all your gear on your aran in order to seem decent.

Although I will be the one to tell you a 135 attack pole arm with 40% str Aint pomegranate.

the dual pendant slot is pretty much the only thing we have that has the ability to make us on-par with you GMSers.
and I wouldn't call that a potion, but that might just be me.

So what's the point of arguing over it? I think most kMSers believe that in gMS it's easy to make a perfect attack weapon or something, even though in reality it's still quite difficult. Pam's Song is pretty damn expensive at about 19.8k per slot failed, since 50%s are essentially draining out and using them would 10% scrolls would be fairly difficult do it being 19.8k NX per slot failed x 9 slots (hammer) then the average mapler can't even obtain these. The good thing about kMS is that most things can be earned without spending a sh`it ton of money, which gMS fails at doing because the economy over here is terrible.

Oh and, that CS item is still stronger than an energizer. 300 NX isn't that bad either.

So what's the point of arguing over it? I think most kMSers believe that in gMS it's easy to make a perfect attack weapon or something, even though in reality it's still quite difficult. Pam's Song is pretty damn expensive at about 19.8k per slot failed, since 50%s are essentially draining out and using them would 10% scrolls would be fairly difficult do it being 19.8k NX per slot failed x 9 slots (hammer) then the average mapler can't even obtain these. The good thing about kMS is that most things can be earned without spending a sh`it ton of money, which gMS fails at doing because the economy over here is terrible.

Oh and, that CS item is still stronger than an energizer. 300 NX isn't that bad either.

a wedding ticket doesn't seem too bad for a theoretical unlimited apple supply either.

a wedding ticket doesn't seem too bad for a theoretical unlimited apple supply either.

I get 1 apple every 6~8 APQs. There's a 6 hour timeframe between each APQ. APQ fails if someone disconnects, just one person disconnecting ruins the entire quest and can't be repeated until 6 hours later. Also, APQ has been empty lately ever since Big Bang. At least in here.

a wedding ticket doesn't seem too bad for a theoretical unlimited apple supply either.

Yeah because every APQ I get apples. In smaller servers it's hard to find APQ players, or enough for a party, and you have to assume they won't DC which auto ends the pq.

Weapon attack means jack since potential came out, and from my understand the time that it's been out is a lot cheaper than what we deal with.

I don't know why you're still arguing, each one of your equips can add 8 stars now can they not? So that's nearly 20 weapon attack adding onto any weapon or any equip.

Yeah because every APQ I get apples. In smaller servers it's hard to find APQ players, or enough for a party, and you have to assume they won't DC which auto ends the pq.

Weapon attack means jack since potential came out, and from my understand the time that it's been out is a lot cheaper than what we deal with.

I don't know why you're still arguing, each one of your equips can add 8 stars now can they not? So that's nearly 20 weapon attack adding onto any weapon or any equip.

that was a limited time event, where you could buy protector shields for your enhancement scrolls. I never used them, due to lacking money for it.
but all of which you guys are arguing against me about, is stuff that will get to GMS sooner or later.
everything I've argued against you about will never come to KMS.

that was a limited time event, where you could buy protector shields for your enhancement scrolls. I never used them, due to lacking money for it.
but all of which you guys are arguing against me about, is stuff that will get to GMS sooner or later.
everything I've argued against you about will never come to KMS.

All the stuff you claim to argue about are outclassed by KMS content to begin, thus making your argument invalid.

Also like too state a 10% stat 8 attack facestomper is weaker than my 15% VSS. The chances of getting 14% x attack on a facestomper is no more rare than a recipe dropping, thus nulling any further argument you have pertaining to that item.

All the stuff you claim to argue about are outclassed by KMS content to begin, thus making your argument invalid.

how so?
I guess you didn't read the bottom line.
GMS has more attack equipment and attack boosting usables than KMS will ever have.
being ahead of you won't change a thing. you'll get everything we have in time, thus making your argument invalid.

how so?
I guess you didn't read the bottom line.
GMS has more attack equipment and attack boosting usables than KMS will ever have.
being ahead of you won't change a thing. you'll get everything we have in time, thus making your argument invalid.

By the time GMS gets what KMS has, KMS will already have better and stronger stuff, thus your argument is still invalid.
Seriously, all you're doing now is beating around the bush to try and cope up an argument just to prove something, but in reality it's just backfiring upon yourself.
What GMS has, KMS has something even better, only a small handful of things can be argued, if even, but the large majority of the picture, KMS still wins out. So as long as KMS remains ahead in content against GMS, KMS will always have the upper hand. Only way GMS will win out is if we get some absurd +50 / 100 attack items that aren't weapons.

@Bold, what attack equipment do we have that's still usable for endgame today and doesn't cost a pineappleton of money? Last I checked, only a couple items out of the half dozen+ we have available. The rest easily get outclassed by higher level equips due to potential OR they're ungodly rare to get in the first place that they instantly cost upward to 1bil+ CLEAN.
Also the "attack boosting usables" statement is rather redundant as only 1 item, we can get on a daily basis, beats the 300nx CS item and that's Apples. The other +atk items that beat it are event-only items, such as Gelts, Witch Brews, etc.

By the time GMS gets what KMS has, KMS will already have better and stronger stuff, thus your argument is still invalid.
Seriously, all you're doing now is beating around the bush to try and cope up an argument just to prove something, but in reality it's just backfiring upon yourself.
What GMS has, KMS has something even better, only a small handful of things can be argued, if even, but the large majority of the picture, KMS still wins out.

@Bold, what attack equipment do we have that's still usable for endgame today and doesn't cost a pineappleton of money? Last I checked, only a couple items out of the half dozen+ we have available. The rest easily get outclassed by higher level equips due to potential OR they're ungodly rare to get in the first place that they instantly cost upward to 1bil+ CLEAN.
Also the "attack boosting usables" statement is rather redundant as only 1 item, we can get on a daily basis, beats the 300nx CS item and that's Apples. The other +atk items that beat it are event-only items, such as Gelts, Witch Brews, etc.

everything you said counts for KMS too.
except that we will have better items when you get what we had. I doubt that we will have awesome attack equipment when Chaos hits GMS.
we don't have anything over you.
we don't.

Only KMS funded players are avaible to get such stuff, even if you are talking about normal items, and the only really good way of making money in KMS, is nx, in FM no one will buy your stuff even if you speak korean, you need to have a shop to be able to sell items properly, I as a mid funded KMSer have to say that, I would have better items, if I started fresh in GMS

everything you said counts for KMS too.
except that we will have better items when you get what we had. I doubt that we will have awesome attack equipment when Chaos hits GMS.
we don't have anything over you.
we don't.

See, you think that we have an advantage, but we don't. All those equips you mentioned aren't even what people use anymore. I rarely see Facestompers or SCG or PAC's anymore because, and try and understand this since you seem to not be able to, AREN'T WORTH IT.

You keep mentioning all these attack equipment. The only one that you could make a valid argument with is Blackfist Cloak, and you didn't even bring that one up. Let's go down the list again, and see if I can clear this up for you. Excluding the ones that have already been covered.

you guys can egg chaos htp's more than once. - no we can't.

we don't have VIP items. - which are getting dropped down to tier three soon, and statless hardly even matters now with potential out.

we don't have apples, energizers and the like. - they already covered this one.

we don't have facestompers, SCG's, PAC's and so forth. - Facestompers = Not as good as a class shoe with potential. SCG's = not as good as a class glove scrolled for attack with potential. PAC's = not as good as a good higher leveled cape with potential, in most cases.

we don't have as many rings with slots as you have. the ones we have are only obtained by the very elite, and are probably not shown to the free market for a long, long time. - I believe they covered this one too, but this is complete crap. We have 1 ring with slots and thats the wedding ring, and you can't even get good potential on it.

we don't get pam's song. - Fair enough, but Pam's song is really expensive... 20k nx for one fail? No thanks.

we don't have MoN - or NLC, for that matter. - MoN can't be scrolled for potential and therefore HTP with decent potential > MoN in 99% of cases.

we don't have time traveler medal, let alone any good attack medals. - Was already covered.

As for the rings. As expensive as they might be, YOU STILL HAVE THE AVAILABILITY. Some availability > no availability, no matter the price.

how so?
I guess you didn't read the bottom line.
GMS has more attack equipment and attack boosting usables than KMS will ever have.
being ahead of you won't change a thing. you'll get everything we have in time, thus making your argument invalid.

Also like too state a 10% stat 8 attack facestomper is weaker than my 15% VSS. The chances of getting 14% x attack on a facestomper is no more rare than a recipe dropping, thus nulling any further argument you have pertaining to that item. .

All the stuff you claim to argue about are outclassed by KMS content to begin, thus making your argument invalid.

Also like too state a 10% stat 8 attack facestomper is weaker than my 15% VSS. The chances of getting 14% x attack on a facestomper is no more rare than a recipe dropping, thus nulling any further argument you have pertaining to that item.

how so?
I guess you didn't read the bottom line.
GMS has more attack equipment and attack boosting usables than KMS will ever have.
being ahead of you won't change a thing. you'll get everything we have in time, thus making your argument invalid.

Neither of you have a correct definition of validity in arguments. Just saying.