Dual Blade back to their true Power?

How many different people have to say this?

I wonder if I'm the only one who watched that video and thought, "Wow, Dual Blades look so stupid with numbers going off the screen" instead of thinking how overpowered they are. Though back on topic, for having roughly 40% potential, they do hit hard. Granted, this post-chaos where Dual Blades were "balanced" with more heavy hitting skills. This also makes me wonder how big of an influence the new Thorns has on Dual Blades.

What is wrong with these videos... the DW does like 1/20 as much damage as mine, and the NW never actually attacked properly. Did they forget to assign stats or something?

This was the JMS Cygnus promo. It's from years ago, but still, they are ridiculously bad played, and with very crappy gear. That's why i used it as an example, because if we're going to base ourselves in just one video, that one just proves that all cygnus are terrible, because the ones who recorded it had terrible gear and awful control.
That, btw, makes me wonder on how a preview can show the GM dying, and they still upload these thinking it was enough. Maybe Nexon Japan wanted to discourage players from playoing with such jobs :S

They must've forgotten to assign their stats. There's no possibility of such ridiculously low damage other than that :S

I wonder if I'm the only one who watched that video and thought, "Wow, Dual Blades look so stupid with numbers going off the screen" instead of thinking how overpowered they are. Though back on topic, for having roughly 40% potential, they do hit hard. Granted, this post-chaos where Dual Blades were "balanced" with more heavy hitting skills. This also makes me wonder how big of an influence the new Thorns has on Dual Blades.

its 30%Luk on video.

>Hamad
>amazing control

I'm going out on a limb and guessing amazing for you means something else to the rest of us.
If hes outdamaging you, its because he has better equips. End of. It's hilarious that you base his entire set on his +% luck, for all that you know he has godly watt ( I know how much they have, but I'll let you try and work that out for yourself). And then you ignore the fact that final cut cannot be on all the time.
Ugh.

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Lol.
You have less attack than them , even if they were using a very low level Katara. Theres your obvious problem.

Agreed, every time something gets sight of anything from kms is going to come out soon in gms, random threads appear talking about bandwagoning, it'll never end lol.

Also, arans get buffed up nicely as well, for the aran who spoke of being weak or whatever. I have an aran that i took a hiatus from until the chaos patch =D.

Again, you can't compare 2 different versions that have many differences, especially one like KMS that is far ahead of us.

How many different people have to say this?

I wonder if I'm the only one who watched that video and thought, "Wow, Dual Blades look so stupid with numbers going off the screen" instead of thinking how overpowered they are. Though back on topic, for having roughly 40% potential, they do hit hard. Granted, this post-chaos where Dual Blades were "balanced" with more heavy hitting skills. This also makes me wonder how big of an influence the new Thorns has on Dual Blades.

40% isnt higher , bt higher than the db in the vid =)

its 30%Luk on video.

Now I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you didn't actually read what they were saying.

"240k in 0.6 seconds"

Any class can do that.

I do that with a bishop

No.that's why I've seen 7x stat CHTPS I guess.
Who cares? 4th tier removal makes it like a 120+ VIP weapon.statless, more attack
Did you know that people don't even use apples as much anymore? Energizers are 25 attack, your CS attack potion almost matches it along with your attack rings.we don't have energizers either. what attack CS attack potion?
Facestomps, SCGs, PACs, all SUCK.yeah, 14% stat on each of those is definately terribad.
You guys have more rings with slots than us, ours is only the wedding ring. You guys have had rings with slots before potential even hit. yes, but with an extremely expensive task. and the rings are pomegranate tier.
Ok.
Ok.
Ok.
MoNs are for hobos or for people who have too much %stat. that's a matter of opinion, GMS'ers still have easier access to easy attack than we do.
Time Traveler Medal is an event item, similar to the Winter King/Queen Medal.

winter king/queen medals's stats expired after 7 days.

Egging pendants twice is offset by double pendant slots. A 3 line unique 1 egg CHTP (chaosed or not) and whatever the second best pendant is (chaosed chaos spieg pendant?) easily beats a 3 line unique 2 egg CHTP.

The statless thing doesn't even matter at all. I have a VIP knuckle and i still have to have 120 total dex because i need to wear the 120 glove for decent SE. Higher base attack on VIP weapons vs 130 weapons and it's set bonuses? Seems even to me.

If you want to argue pot bonuses, why are we forgetting KMS has +30 stat potions that (afaik) stack with attack pots? With % gear that's a huge advantage. 30 str for me would increase my max range by at LEAST 1.5k. Easily enough to compensate for the attack difference between energizers and the most widely used KMS attack pot.

Compared to 21% stat on a VSS? I've seen like 2 3 lined facestompers EVER and they were horribly chaosed. The best scrolled facestompers i see are all 2 lined. Far cry from 14% main stat (good f'ucking luck getting that >_>) isn't it? SCGs are also terrible compared to attack 70+ gloves. PaCs are still pretty good, but why the HELL are you using PaCs for an attack cape example? I guess you completely forgot blackfist cloaks.

HAHAHAHA sorry KMS having better rings than us is not an argument you can win. It's a fact, especially with the chaos forgeable rings whose recipes you buy from a damn NPC. The rings that give more stats than zombie rings either aren't worth the money or will be replaced very soon. S'hit tier is better than NO TIER. >_>

Easier? KMSers are thrown attack for the easiest things, you just don't get as much of it. GMSers have to work for their attack gear or shell out tons of mesos.

I turn off my Ultra Ignore for a few days and I see you're all stupid enough to respond, let alone argue in a hamad thread.

Egging pendants twice is offset by double pendant slots. A 3 line unique 1 egg CHTP (chaosed or not) and whatever the second best pendant is (chaosed chaos spieg pendant?) easily beats a 3 line unique 2 egg CHTP.

The statless thing doesn't even matter at all. I have a VIP knuckle and i still have to have 120 total dex because i need to wear the 120 glove for decent SE. Higher base attack on VIP weapons vs 130 weapons and it's set bonuses? Seems even to me.

If you want to argue pot bonuses, why are we forgetting KMS has +30 stat potions that (afaik) stack with attack pots? With % gear that's a huge advantage. 30 str for me would increase my max range by at LEAST 1.5k. Easily enough to compensate for the attack difference between energizers and the most widely used KMS attack pot.

Compared to 21% stat on a VSS? I've seen like 2 3 lined facestompers EVER and they were horribly chaosed. The best scrolled facestompers i see are all 2 lined. Far cry from 14% main stat (good f'ucking luck getting that >_>) isn't it? SCGs are also terrible compared to attack 70+ gloves. PaCs are still pretty good, but why the HELL are you using PaCs for an attack cape example? I guess you completely forgot blackfist cloaks.

HAHAHAHA sorry KMS having better rings than us is not an argument you can win. It's a fact, especially with the chaos forgeable rings whose recipes you buy from a damn NPC. The rings that give more stats than zombie rings either aren't worth the money or will be replaced very soon. S'hit tier is better than NO TIER. >_>

Easier? KMSers are thrown attack for the easiest things, you just don't get as much of it. GMSers have to work for their attack gear or shell out tons of mesos.

that's your choice, for wanting an SE glove, lol.

just because you haven't seen any godly facestompers, doesn't mean they don't exist.
14% main stat isn't that hard to get, but I might just be lucky.
I don't play GMS, but I assume that Blackfist Cloak has base attack, and the same potential tier as 75-120 equips.
you can only buy up to level 110 rings at the NPC - that's 8 to one stat of your choice.

I've seen ONE recipe for one of the items you talk about.
guess what - it's worth over 1 bil just for the RECIPE. mesos are easier to obtain in GMS than they are in KMS.

try playing KMS on my level, you'll see.
borrowing someone's tespia account doesn't count.

I came in expecting half-assed comparisons, incorrect information, etc. I was right.

This is what it looks like everytime he makes a thread, almost, so why bother?

1. You conveniently ignored the fact that Aran will be buffed quite significantly in the Chaos patch as well.
2. Maplestory Chaos (Return of the Heroes)...old much? All I want to know is, where the hell were you when everyone else was discussing this in the extractions threads?

that's your choice, for wanting an SE glove, lol.

What does that matter? Statless is, regardless, easy as f'uck to pull off for high secondary stat gear and most classes still have requirements for equipment that are needed to improve their DPS.

just because you haven't seen any godly facestompers, doesn't mean they don't exist.
14% main stat isn't that hard to get, but I might just be lucky.
I don't play GMS, but I assume that Blackfist Cloak has base attack, and the same potential tier as 75-120 equips.
you can only buy up to level 110 rings at the NPC - that's 8 to one stat of your choice.

I never said they don't exist. I did imply that the well chaosed 3 lined ones (perfect 14% stats or not) were expensive as f'uck, to the point where buying a 3rd tier class shoe would be a cheaper and better option.

Yes. It does. Much better item if you want to make the case that GMS has much better gear. Though blackfists clean are like 1b. 3 lined instantly like max meso. >_> Ridiculous.

I'm aware of what you can buy. 8 to one stat is still better than 1 to all even if you can't potential it.

I've seen ONE recipe for one of the items you talk about.
guess what - it's worth over 1 bil just for the RECIPE. mesos are easier to obtain in GMS than they are in KMS.

I'm not entirely sure we're on the same page. What items do you think i'm talking about?

try playing KMS on my level, you'll see.
borrowing someone's tespia account doesn't count.

1) I would hate to.
2) What the f'uck does that have to do with anything? A KMST session that happened last summer was never mentioned nor does it have to do with KMS vs GMS. If you want to nail someone down a peg try and make it relevant. But hey at least whipping out dat ad hominem makes you hard eh?

I'm not entirely sure we're on the same page. What items do you think i'm talking about?

I believe he was referring to your statement in your previous post about buying recipes from an NPC for rings. As far as I know you can't buy them from an NPC :|

I believe he was referring to your statement in your previous post about buying recipes from an NPC for rings. As far as I know you can't buy them from an NPC :|

Ohhhhhh. Someone said in the profession skill thread recipes up to 100 or 110 or something were purchaseable from an NPC.

Still, whatever item he's talking about can't possibly apply to all recipes nor does it change the fact that they're available. Besides, anyone who want the recipes for themselves and know where they drop have the advantage of 2x drop over here so i doubt we'll see the same issue of expensive recipes.

Ohhhhhh. Someone said in the profession skill thread recipes up to 100 or 110 or something were purchaseable from an NPC.

Still, whatever item he's talking about can't possibly apply to all recipes nor does it change the fact that they're available. Besides, anyone who want the recipes for themselves and know where they drop have the advantage of 2x drop over here so i doubt we'll see the same issue of expensive recipes.

Well yes, SOME, of the recipes can be bought from the NPC, but not all. The the ones that are not, are the ones people want to have or something. And also, the drop rates of recipes are horrible beyond belief, thank you very much.

Ohhhhhh. Someone said in the profession skill thread recipes up to 100 or 110 or something were purchaseable from an NPC.

Still, whatever item he's talking about can't possibly apply to all recipes nor does it change the fact that they're available. Besides, anyone who want the recipes for themselves and know where they drop have the advantage of 2x drop over here so i doubt we'll see the same issue of expensive recipes.

raging sun equipment - 700mil each recipe.
crescent equipment - 1bil each recipe.
nox van leon equipment - 300-400mil each recipe.

sure, we have much better conditions when it comes to getting awesome items.

My god, I leave for 6+ hours due to WoW and you're STILL peaching up a storm about how KMS has it "oh, so much harder"?
Remind me again why this is going on when both versions aren't even on the exact same page?

raging sun equipment - 700mil each recipe.
crescent equipment - 1bil each recipe.
nox van leon equipment - 300-400mil each recipe.

sure, we have much better conditions when it comes to getting awesome items.

BTW, nice job at choosing the most expensive item recipes out of the hundreds in the game just to prove a shameless point :|

BTW, nice job at choosing the most expensive item recipes out of the hundreds in the game just to prove a shameless point :|

those are the only equipsets we have, that are better than what GMS currently has.

Well, Takebacker took most of the good points towards your argument. Especially with that double pendant CS item.

Herp derp CS attack potion.