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hamad138 Wrote:i have amazing control ,pure amazing. This guys is outdamaging me by faaaaar. i think if i succesful swin with final blow its 2 sec?
>Hamad
>amazing control
I'm going out on a limb and guessing amazing for you means something else to the rest of us. 
If hes outdamaging you, its because he has better equips. End of. It's hilarious that you base his entire set on his +% luck, for all that you know he has godly watt ( I know how much they have, but I'll let you try and work that out for yourself). And then you ignore the fact that final cut cannot be on all the time.
Ugh.
edit: Quote:130atk glaive + 10atk potential +mon and more good stuff + time traveler medal
Lol.
You have less attack than them , even if they were using a very low level Katara. Theres your obvious problem.
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Imitazion Wrote:you guys can egg chaos htp's more than once.
we don't have as many rings with slots as you have. the ones we have are only obtained by the very elite, and are probably not shown to the free market for a long, long time.
we don't have pink scrolls in the same quantity as you do. they are also harder to obtain, seeing as they only come from events that require NX.
1. We can't egg htp's more than once either, as far as I know.
2. We only have... 2 rings with slots that I know of, and one is the wedding ring.
3. Pink Scrolls are few and far between nowadays as that was a one time thing pretty much.
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Imitazion Wrote:you guys can egg chaos htp's more than once.
we don't have VIP items.
we don't have apples, energizers and the like.
we don't have facestompers, SCG's, PAC's and so forth.
we don't have as many rings with slots as you have. the ones we have are only obtained by the very elite, and are probably not shown to the free market for a long, long time.
we don't have pink scrolls in the same quantity as you do. they are also harder to obtain, seeing as they only come from events that require NX.
we don't have white scrolls.
we don't get pam's song.
we don't have MoN - or NLC, for that matter.
we don't have time traveler medal, let alone any good attack medals.
Gratz, KMS could do the same pre-chaos
Removal of 4th tier potential will make VIP items on par with everything else
Ok
FS/SCG/etc are terrible due to the potential system
Wedding ring is the only ring with slots, that I know of, yet it's easily replaced by anything KMS has.
Ok
Ok
Ok
MoNs are terrible with potential system out
Any "Good" attack medals? KMS has 5atk medals, how is that not good?
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Lozmaster Wrote:>Hamad
>amazing control
I'm going out on a limb and guessing amazing for you means something else to the rest of us.
If hes outdamaging you, its because he has better equips. End of. It's hilarious that you base his entire set on his +% luck, for all that you know he has godly watt ( I know how much they have, but I'll let you try and work that out for yourself). And then you ignore the fact that final cut cannot be on all the time.
Ugh.
edit:
Lol.
You have less attack than them , even if they were using a 0 attack Katara. Theres your obvious problem.
Never played a DB so I don't know if it uses the same formula as Bandits... does that damage range indicate 260~ w.atk, with dagger + katara added together?
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Shidoshi Wrote:>hamad138 thread.
This.
I came in expecting half-assed comparisons, incorrect information, etc. I was right.
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Stereo Wrote:Never played a DB so I don't know if it uses the same formula as Bandits... does that damage range indicate 260~ w.atk?
I'm thinking 262ish total, yeah. That is, assuming the formulas are the same after chaos for DBs, we know that it got changed a little bit with regards to how kataras add to the damage range. Also in retrospect, saying a 0 attack katara may have been a bit of an overestimate, depending on the rest of his equips, but hamad is still far far behind on the WATT scale.
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Videos don't tell the truth. Depending on your gear, you can easily outdamage a DB with that parameter of 240k in 0,6 seconds.
Also,
Shidoshi Wrote:Now you compare different classes with good equips and see which one has the best DPS.
A video proves nothing about who's the best.
>hamad138 thread.
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aslemn Wrote:Videos don't tell the truth. Depending on your gear, you can easily outdamage a DB with that parameter of 240k in 0,6 seconds.
Also,
Agreed, every time something gets sight of anything from kms is going to come out soon in gms, random threads appear talking about bandwagoning, it'll never end lol.
Also, arans get buffed up nicely as well, for the aran who spoke of being weak or whatever. I have an aran that i took a hiatus from until the chaos patch =D.
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Trust Wrote:Agreed, every time something gets sight of anything from kms is going to come out soon in gms, random threads appear talking about bandwagoning, it'll never end lol.
Also, arans get buffed up nicely as well, for the aran who spoke of being weak or whatever. I have an aran that i took a hiatus from until the chaos patch =D.
Exactly. If we can judge a job's power by just one video. Cygnus are a complete piece of crap, eh?
[video=youtube;biDtaigLQ9w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biDtaigLQ9w[/video]]
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Stereo Wrote:I do mid 130k crits pretty often when I have DS going, I've only used about 50-60 cubes total... It adds up fast.
@ Hamad you haven't mentioned your range yet, DrKs and Arans have naturally very high ranges which can be misleading when comparing gear. It's not that hard to get a 14k range on an Aran and your gear still be pretty bad overall.
hows 40%str and 130(140ATK with Potential)Arcglaive bad?
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Dark Link Wrote:Gratz, KMS could do the same pre-chaoswe could never egg any kind of HTP more than once. I've played KMS since cygnus, so I should know. you can also ask the amount of pre-bb players from KMS about this too.
Removal of 4th tier potential will make VIP items on par with everything elsevip weapons are statless and with higher attack.
Ok
FS/SCG/etc are terrible due to the potential system I assume that makes LPQ glasses terrible too. 14% LUK on a 17atk SCG, now that's terrible.
Wedding ring is the only ring with slots, that I know of, yet it's easily replaced by anything KMS has.not really. wedding rings having all-stats and attack, outdoes the rings up to level 110.
Ok
Ok
Ok
MoNs are terrible with potential system outok
Any "Good" attack medals? KMS has 5atk medals, how is that not good? lasting for less than a month, when time traveler is permanent.
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u know their is still class imbalance aka mechanic,bucc, mages and many other classes. Nexon needs to do another skill balance after chaos thats for sure
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hamad138 Wrote:hows 40%str and 130(140ATK with Potential)Arcglaive bad?
One weapon does not a character make, and 40% stat honestly isn't all that high. Hell, I have 40% and I play maybe at the most two hours a week.
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SCGs are no longer cost efficient compared to even making level 100 gloves let alone 120 gloves.
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Imitazion Wrote:you guys can egg chaos htp's more than once.
we don't have VIP items.
we don't have apples, energizers and the like.
we don't have facestompers, SCG's, PAC's and so forth.
we don't have as many rings with slots as you have. the ones we have are only obtained by the very elite, and are probably not shown to the free market for a long, long time.
we don't have pink scrolls in the same quantity as you do. they are also harder to obtain, seeing as they only come from events that require NX.
we don't have white scrolls.
we don't get pam's song.
we don't have MoN - or NLC, for that matter.
we don't have time traveler medal, let alone any good attack medals.
No.
Who cares? 4th tier removal makes it like a 120+ VIP weapon.
Did you know that people don't even use apples as much anymore? Energizers are 25 attack, your CS attack potion almost matches it along with your attack rings.
Facestomps, SCGs, PACs, all SUCK.
You guys have more rings with slots than us, ours is only the wedding ring. You guys have had rings with slots before potential even hit.
Ok.
Ok.
Ok.
MoNs are for hobos or for people who have too much %stat.
Time Traveler Medal is an event item, similar to the Winter King/Queen Medal.
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aslemn Wrote:Exactly. If we can judge a job's power by just one video. Cygnus are a complete piece of crap, eh?
What is wrong with these videos... the DW does like 1/20 as much damage as mine, and the NW never actually attacked properly. Did they forget to assign stats or something?
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Energizer drinks are 25 attack. But many people carry them in huge bulk. They're easy to get; extremely easy as long as you can hit a royal guard.
I was 150 spamming RG. And I killed Dunas too because of blasts insta kill. I've probably accumulated 300 before I stopped and just started using them.
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Bomber Wrote:Energizer drinks are 25 attack. But many people carry them in huge bulk. They're easy to get. Extremely as long as you can hit a royal guard.
Thanks for noticing my typo. I didn't even realize he replied in this thread.
Casper, for your information our wedding rings don't have stats.
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GunisBack Wrote:One weapon does not a character make, and 40% stat honestly isn't all that high. Hell, I have 40% and I play maybe at the most two hours a week.
40% isnt higher , bt higher than the db in the vid =)
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hamad138 Wrote:40% isnt higher , bt higher than the db in the vid =)
Again, you can't compare 2 different versions that have many differences, especially one like KMS that is far ahead of us.
How many different people have to say this?
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