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Ignoring someone
#1
How do you do it?

Serious thread. I have this bullpomegranate impulse to take everyone seriously when they have something to say, and I take offense when they turn out to have nothing better to do than trying to offend me. How do I go about keeping my mind constantly reminded that I need to adopt the "yeah yeah, okay cool, now go away" attitude, or better, train myself to do that automatically?

I have spent enough time to conclude that all my grandpa says is complete bullpomegranate that is not only a waste of time but also breath to ever be uttered. Since I can't sew his mouth, I'll have to block my ears to save us both the trouble. It really is in the interest of both of us.

Wish I had Ultra Ignore in real life, sigh.

EDIT: Up until now, I have been suppressing my urge to retort his bullpomegranate with logic, like the urge you get when you see an anti-vacinnationist, but I figure I'm not going to be able to keep this up much longer. Reality dictates that he doesn't have that much time left either, I think he deserves a peaceful ending without much turbulence caused by my part.
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#2
[COLOR="blue"]In my opinion you just either do it or you don't, it's not like it's a type of skill or something that you need to ''learn'' how to do.

If you know someone isn't worth talking to then simply don't talk to them.[/COLOR]
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#3
-Ghost- Wrote:[COLOR="blue"]In my opinion you just either do it or you don't, it's not like it's a type of skill or something that you need to ''learn'' how to do.

If you know someone isn't worth talking to then simply don't talk to them.[/COLOR]

You see, this does not work. If you already deem someone not worthy of talking to, you should already NOT be in a conversation with them in the first place. "Do not talk to someone" is an action, where voiding the existence of another action requires effort on its own.

I HAVE TO engage in these conversations, with or without much consent on my part, and I'd like for them to go well. The best way to go about achieving this is just to completely ignore it. People are advised to do this all the time, "You don't like it, you ignore it." The advisors just forget to mention HOW.
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#4
Eh. You can't be a plantain to people...It looks bad and can affect what people think about you. So you can't completely ignore/be rude to someone.

Generally what I do when I'm in conversations I don't like is that I let the other person lead in talking, and I agree/ask a specific question about something they said so it looks like I'm paying attention.

Person: So I my bio class is killing me.
Me: Yeah?
Person: The teacher is giving no homework, the whole grade comes from tests alone.
Me: Are they hard?
Person: *continues on*
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#5
OB3LISK Wrote:Eh. You can't be a plantain to people...It looks bad and can affect what people think about you. So you can't completely ignore/be rude to someone.

Generally what I do when I'm in conversations I don't like is that I let the other person lead in talking, and I agree/ask a specific question about something they said so it looks like I'm paying attention.

Person: So I my bio class is killing me.
Me: Yeah?
Person: The teacher is giving no homework, the whole grade comes from tests alone.
Me: Are they hard?
Person: *continues on*

That is because you don't care. I'm not asking how to lead the conversations, I know how to do small talks. I wanted to know HOW to adopt that attitude, which in turn brings about the meaningless responses automatically.
read: How do I go about keeping my mind constantly reminded that I need to adopt the "yeah yeah, okay cool, now go away" attitude.

Do I try and shock my brain with an alarm screaming THIS PERSON IS NOT WORTH TALKING TO every time I see their face? Should I try to familiarize myself with small talks by applying it to everyone?
What do I need to do to go from:
- point A: paying attention to what anyone says, and take it seriously; to
- point B: doing small talks with any lucky chosen person
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#6
[COLOR="blue"]Completely ignoring it means you're not conversing, meaning you're not conversing well. Having the option to completely ignore it also means you don't ''have to'' engage in the conversations in the first place, so do you want to actually ignore -everything- or just ignore the random BS he says?

Just now saw your edit. You can still set his crap straight without -insulting- the man and giving him a hard time about it. Go about it maturely and if he's not taking it in then give up on it and let him be. It's hard to teach older people.[/COLOR]
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#7
Kalovale Wrote:read: How do I go about keeping my mind constantly reminded that I need to adopt the "yeah yeah, okay cool, now go away" attitude,

This is a really sick way of looking at life, but I like to think that people are inferior, insecure, and stupid if they're assuming that they're better than me just by throwing random insults at me. Whether if it's for the way I dress, act, my hobbies, etc. I just don't care. When I was younger, I would surely retaliate because I'd feel frustrated. Now, I just don't care, and smile back. In fact, for some people, if you don't seem to care, they'll just back off. For some, they'll keep on going, so it really differs. Though, I admit that there are times that I would want to run up to certain people and hit their vital points or something.

I don't get irritated of people that tells me I'm weird, eccentric, or "no life animu collecting f`aggot" (example), I just smirk and say nothing back. Sometimes, using no words can be the best weapon. It's not like wasting your breath on stupid people is gonna change anything . . . In fact, I don't say anything at all because I know they're too dumb to be reasoned with.

Speaking of which, there were times that I was at work, or walking outside, and some teenagers driving in their fancy cars rolled down their windows and called me a Chink. I just shrugged, because I really don't care. Why care at all?
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#8
-Ghost- Wrote:if he's not taking it in then give up on it and let him be. It's hard to teach older people.

Already moved to this stage. You pretty much missed all the implication. I went through 3 stages with him already:
1/ taking his pomegranate seriously and trying to reason with him like MAN TO MAN, or BRAIN TO BRAIN
2/ giving up on 1/, starting to use HIS logic against him to make my case. At this point, I wasn't even making him see it my way, but he couldn't see his own way either
3/ giving up on 2/, started to suppress myself and do the "yeah yeah whatever man" attitude, but it's bad for my health
4/ improving on 3/, I want to do 3/ without driving myself nuts and decreasing my productivity for the day, like I am now, by posting on Southperry instead of studying Linear Algebra.
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#9
Well, shrugging things off kind of has to do with your personality. We can tell you stories of what we did but that probably won't help.

You have to realize that even though he's saying stupid things and it doesn't matter at all. I know you realize it logically, but you have to really feel like it doesn't matter.

Like right now. If I walked outside to get the mail in my boxers, and my neighbors saw it, oh gosh it would be embarrassing. But then I'd go inside and it would be over, so I shouldn't care. Reality moved on.

It's hard to explain.
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#10
OB3LISK Wrote:Well, shrugging things off kind of has to do with your personality. We can tell you stories of what we did but that probably won't help.

It's hard to explain.

This.

It is hard to explain because it's just something some of us have learned while growing up without really even realizing it.

I'm more passive in expressing my opinions, so if I'm "talking" to someone I don't really care/want to talk to, I usually don't face them directly, looking off somewhere else rather than at their face. Or, I respond with concise statements, as you laid out. In essence, I try to give them the "cold shoulder" without leaving them too "chilled".

Or you could just flat out tell your grandpa you don't like talking to him because he makes you feel 'X'. He's family, and while we may offend each other sometimes, that fact doesn't change. You can still be cordial to each other without engaging in conversation.
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#11
1. Old people deserve respect too. I don't understand the complexities of having a grandparent that won't stop talking bologna that doesn't make sense (but that's because i listen to what my grandfather says and he doesn't go spout any sort of crap). You could just tell him something, but that may be hard on your grandfather (sometimes old people like to talk to you because they want you to listen to what they have to say; perhaps your grandfather enjoys talking with you?) If anything have a conversation with him, maybe it'll be a challenge to him xD

2. You can't learn how to ignore things. If you haven't been doing so already, you basically can't do it. That may just be who you are. If you can't ignore him, try to avoid situations where you'd need to.
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