Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 03.02.2011
#81
Locked Wrote:They've had so many job openings since 2009 though.

http://www.nexon.net/Careers/OpenPositions.aspx


>job openings

>lack of man power


Hmm... if they've had job openings that long, don't you think that means they lack workers?
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#82
Delicae Wrote:>job openings

>lack of man power


Hmm... if they've had job openings that long, don't you think that means they lack workers?

Maybe, just maybe, they need to start paying more than peanuts?
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#83
Delicae Wrote:Hmm... if they've had job openings that long, don't you think that means they lack workers?

More like lack of applicants.

Their benefits aren't exactly the most amazing benefits.
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#84
Dark Link Wrote:Yeah, because the entire process only takes a matter of minutes. Stop getting so worked up over it and let it play out :|

I'm not talking about the entire process, I'm talking about the process of updating the notice. It doesn't take 30 minutes to do that. I wouldn't give a dam if it took another 4 hours to fix it, as long as they'd let us know what's going on through the notice. I'm sure only less than half of the active user base actually visits their forums lol

And who said I'm getting worked up?
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#85
I said you're getting worked up tahahahahahhahaha.

Dam I was gunna go abuse this glitch too. Watch them be like "okay after hours and hours, we decided to just remove spring clearance content. have a mapling day."
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#86
SaptaZapta Wrote:Maybe, just maybe, they need to start paying more than peanuts?

Actually Nexon's benefits are really nice.

Its what they require from you is kind of intense. Say you wanted to be one of those people who prepare the programs, scripts and servers for a new build.

You'd need:
• Must have experience implementing best practices, including documentation, analysis, training, and auditing
• Must have knowledge of C++, C#
• Must have scripting experience (e.g., Shell, Perl, PHP and/or Python)
• Experienced with Perforce or GIT - This is mandatory
• Must be extremely detail-oriented
• Experience developing in Visual Studio and Linux

Source: http://www.nexon.net/Careers/OpenPositions.aspx

Not so simple as, hay gaiz i wanna work for j00.
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#87
Delicae Wrote:Actually Nexon's benefits are really nice.

Its what they require from you is kind of intense. Say you wanted to be one of those people who prepare the programs, scripts and servers for a new build.

You'd need:
• Must have experience implementing best practices, including documentation, analysis, training, and auditing
• Must have knowledge of C++, C#
• Must have scripting experience (e.g., Shell, Perl, PHP and/or Python)
• Experienced with Perforce or GIT - This is mandatory
• Must be extremely detail-oriented
• Experience developing in Visual Studio and Linux

Source: http://www.nexon.net/Careers/OpenPositions.aspx

Not so simple as, hay gaiz i wanna work for j00.

lol?
These are pretty much just build on with each other. If you can do one thing, you'll either need to learn the other or you know it already. It's actually quite basic. Their benefits are supposed to be what draws you into the work force, if your benefits seem lacklustre then no one would apply.
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#88
Locked Wrote:More like lack of applicants.

Their benefits aren't exactly the most amazing benefits.

I don't know who your comparing these benefits with but those given by Nexon are quite good, even compared to other high-skilled jobs.
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#89
Locked Wrote:lol?
These are pretty much just build on with each other. If you can do one thing, you'll either need to learn the other or you know it already. It's actually quite basic. Their benefits are supposed to be what draws you into the work force, if your benefits seem lacklustre then no one would apply.


Then go work for them if its so easy~

[SPOILER="Hi I'm Nexon's Benefits"]
You And Your Family
* Health, Dental, Vision coverage
* 401(k) Matching Program
* Up to 24 paid days off per year
* Week-long year end break
* Time off for weddings, parental leave

Team Building

* Monthly team outings / Annual team workshops
* Company lunches every Tuesday, Friday and special occasions
* Foreign language courses

Additional Benefits

* Generous employee referral program
* Public Transportation Program - up to $100/monthly reimbursement for those opting to take public transportation
* Seasonal flu shots
* Massage therapy sessions
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#90
Delicae Wrote:Then go work for them if its so easy~

That's a silly argument. I could very well say it's so easy to work at McDonalds, why shouldn't I work at McDonalds? Making fries or taking care of the register isn't exactly the hardest thing to do.

ODERS Wrote:I don't know who your comparing these benefits with but those given by Nexon are quite good, even compared to other high-skilled jobs.

Look around.
Easiest example off the top of my mind would be loldropbox.
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#91
ODERS Wrote:I don't know who your comparing these benefits with but those given by Nexon are quite good, even compared to other high-skilled jobs.

Agreed. Massage therapy sessions? Cmon.. I know many more stressful jobs that don't even have that as a benefit
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#92
MASSAGE THERAPY LOL. I gotta start asking Fiel and Eos how these computer things work.
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#93
Delicae Wrote:You do realize that Nexon America only has so many employees, and that they're human right?

The problem this time isn't that they lack employees. The problem is that they do not debug the content they produce. Considering that they said they've decided to go patchless from the BigBang mechanic patch to the compilation of UA/LHC patch, this implies that they've finished and producing all the content for Valentines, Golden Temple, and this March update. This means they've had well over a month to double check and prevent this problem, which they didn't bother.

Moreover, Nexon America has only so many employees. The problem here isn't the limited amount of employees, but the way they're distributed. From the way things look, it seems to me that there are more content producers for their employees than actual programmers. Had there been more programmers (and programmers who can debug the game), a lot more things would be fixed such as

A) Memory Leaks (the very FIRST thing programmers learn to correct, which leads me to believe there's next to no programmers in Nexon America's team),
B) glitches such as the Horntail signup glitch, the Body Boost glitch for Battle Mages, and more stuff I'm too lazy to list,
C) exploits and hacks, such as IRM, Rock and Shock, D/C hacking, and more that shouldn't be named), and
D) going back and double checking the products made by the content makers to see if they're functioning correctly.

A small handful of competent programmers can completely turn the way this game operates around into something we'll all see as more appealing. More content doesn't mean much to us when 90% of the other parts of the game don't work right. Yes, Nexon America employees are human, but given the amount of time they've had to correct this issue before it's launched makes me wondering what really goes on behind the monitors.
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#94
Killed Wrote:Agreed. Massage therapy sessions? Cmon.. I know many more stressful jobs that don't even have that as a benefit
Gotta be careful with those massage therapists, seems like all the sport stars are using one to cheat with Rolleyes
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#95
Killed Wrote:Agreed. Massage therapy sessions? Cmon.. I know many more stressful jobs that don't even have that as a benefit

It's incentives/benefits like these that attract people to Nexon. Benefits are an important factor when somebody is given a choice of places to work at. My mom is in the accounting department in the company she works for and some yearly benefits she has include $500 credit for psychological therapy, $500 for massage therapy, $200 for physical activites/sport apparel, and more.
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#96
Locked Wrote:More like lack of applicants.

Their benefits aren't exactly the most amazing benefits.

Were you expecting a jet pack or for them to pay for your car insurance?

They match 401k, health/dental/vision, if you ride the bus THEY PAY FOR YOU TO GO TO WORK.

Hell, they even attempt to ensure their employees don't catch the flu.

To be quite honest, I'm not entirely sure what you were expecting.
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#97
Zelkova Wrote:Were you expecting a jet pack or for them to pay for your car insurance?

They match 401k, health/dental/vision, if you ride the bus THEY PAY FOR YOU TO GO TO WORK.

Hell, they even attempt to ensure their employees don't catch the flu.

To be quite honest, I'm not entirely sure what you were expecting.

None of which is worth a damn if they're only paying 10$ an hour at California's cost of living Rolleyes
It's not having what you want - It's wanting what you've got.
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#98
Eosian Wrote:None of which is worth a damn if they're only paying 10$ an hour at California's cost of living Rolleyes

Where does Nexon state the rate of pay?
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#99
Still down. Damn, I want to use a Shadow Shifter 20 book I found on one of my mules while logging in on all of my accounts xD
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Zelkova Wrote:Where does Nexon state the rate of pay?

They don't, that's the point.
You can go on about how wonderful the benefits are all you want but you don't know what the actual salary is so can't even begin to guess at how horrible the compensation for everything they want really is.
It's not having what you want - It's wanting what you've got.
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