the reason LHC rocks.

1. LHC entrance is 70+ not 100+.
2. No.

Ah, awesome. No work required on the HS mule then.

1. LHC entrance is 70+ not 100+.
2. No.

WRONG.
LHC is 110 and upwards. it cannot be avoided with family teleport.
HS and party bonus only works if the lowest is able to leech without touching the monster.

I believe that LHC is faster than O5, but I wouldn't know. never got that far.

WRONG.
LHC is 110 and upwards. it cannot be avoided with family teleport.
HS and party bonus only works if the lowest is able to leech without touching the monster.

I believe that LHC is faster than O5, but I wouldn't know. never got that far.

I wasn't sure about the second answer, but I was pretty sure LHC entrance is 70+ since it was stated in about 2-3 threads.

WRONG.
LHC is 110 and upwards. it cannot be avoided with family teleport.

Can it be circumvented with Mystic Door?

HS and party bonus only works if the lowest is able to leech without touching the monster.

Hmm... might need to level a mule or two... good thing Golden Temple is here.

Where can I find up-to-date data on LHC mobs?

I believe that LHC is faster than O5, but I wouldn't know. never got that far.

It better be. I can only get about 7m exp/hr at Ob4

WRONG.
LHC is 110 and upwards. it cannot be avoided with family teleport.
HS and party bonus only works if the lowest is able to leech without touching the monster.

I believe that LHC is faster than O5, but I wouldn't know. never got that far.

Ok, so I'll have to grind the priest up some then. Though the answer is confusing about HS, it is not like it would be made void just because it is in Lionheart, I imagine it works like it always has.

Would it be better to duo some of those monsters with a BaM and maxed Advanced Dark Aura? Of course a full party is involved, but let's say the HSer is leeching and a level 150 BaM and I (140 Corsair) train together at one mob while the other members of the party go a cycle or something. I don't know, just throwing out random sentences here.

WRONG.
LHC is 110 and upwards. it cannot be avoided with family teleport.
HS and party bonus only works if the lowest is able to leech without touching the monster.

I believe that LHC is faster than O5, but I wouldn't know. never got that far.

How convient. Good thing my family has 6 computers, including laptops. My 2 sisters' and I can just log on our high level mules / alts and boost ourselves LOL [Plus I'm not touching the castle golems with a 10ft pole due to elemental resist / immunity]

How convient. Good thing my family has 6 computers, including laptops. My 2 sisters' and I can just log on our high level mules / alts and boost ourselves LOL [Plus I'm not touching the castle golems with a 10ft pole due to elemental resist / immunity]

Hmm, holy charge without dual charging is probably ok on the golems, though fighting fireweak is alot more appealing.

Just how many maps does LHC have?

Meh, I wish I could play maple too.

Haven't been to pap since BB, lol. Take off 1/3 of that damage because of elemental differences (everything in LHC is fire-weak). So it's more like a minute and a half, possibly 2 mins.


I have 45% str gear and about 210 w.atk so don't feel bad

I have like 25% str max and over 200 w.att fully buffed with 24 blessing on the way and i easily kill pap in 2 minutes as well so illegallysane doesn't have much of a case it seems. O.o

Oh wait, you aren't talking about pap? Castle golems? I would kill them in half that time? OMGDROOL

I have like 25% str max and over 200 w.att fully buffed with 24 blessing on the way and i easily kill pap in 2 minutes as well so illegallysane doesn't have much of a case it seems. O.o

Oh wait, you aren't talking about pap? Castle golems? I would kill them in half that time? OMGDROOL

You can't have lv 24 blessing yet. Just 12 from a Cygnus for now.

The good news is, that when this goes live, you'll have a happily extra 12 attack.

You can't have lv 24 blessing yet.

24 blessing on the way and i easily kill pap in 2 minutes as well so illegallysane doesn't have much of a case it seems. O.o

He knows.
I'll probably be 200 before we get LHC... :/ I'll have to start training my WH again I guess xD

Haven't been to pap since BB, lol. Take off 1/3 of that damage because of elemental differences (everything in LHC is fire-weak). So it's more like a minute and a half, possibly 2 mins.


I have 45% str gear and about 210 w.atk so don't feel bad

Oh I stand corrected. 45% STR is way higher than I expected. 45% to me feels like godly territory.

I have like 25% str max and over 200 w.att fully buffed with 24 blessing on the way and i easily kill pap in 2 minutes as well so illegallysane doesn't have much of a case it seems. O.o

Oh wait, you aren't talking about pap? Castle golems? I would kill them in half that time? OMGDROOL

I have at best ~3-6% STR cause spending ~$45 for only that much of a STR boost made me mad to not cube again until I can get super funded, and also still using a 101 Equinox. No wonder you're way better off. Guess I'm just average.

It better be. I can only get about 7m exp/hr at Ob4

I only just noticed this. Is Oblivion 4 really that slow now, or is it subject to class? I pull more EXP/hr than that at Memory Lane 2 (approximately 9-10m) :/

You can't have lv 24 blessing yet. Just 12 from a Cygnus for now.

The good news is, that when this goes live, you'll have a happily extra 12 attack.

He knows.

This. Worth mentioning in the first place because it will be relevant at the time in which we are discussing this topic, but if i'm to exclude it because i don't have it now i might as well exclude LHC from anything because it isn't in GMS. >_>

Oh I stand corrected. 45% STR is way higher than I expected. 45% to me feels like godly territory.

Eh that's like 9% str on most pieces isn't it? It's good but not really godly. Hard to achieve, yeah.

I have at best ~3-6% STR cause spending ~$45 for only that much of a STR boost made me mad to not cube again until I can get super funded, and also still using a 101 Equinox. No wonder you're way better off. Guess I'm just average.

Don't you still have a lot of AP in HP too? Your base might be far lower than mine which may or may not matter since you don't have that much % str but high base matters quickly when you start getting a lot of %main.

Don't you still have a lot of AP in HP too? Your base might be far lower than mine which may or may not matter since you don't have that much % str but high base matters quickly when you start getting a lot of %main.

No AP in HP. Just ~20 AP still left on INT.

I only just noticed this. Is Oblivion 4 really that slow now, or is it subject to class? I pull more EXP/hr than that at Memory Lane 2 (approximately 9-10m) :/

I'm a Hero. You know, one of those ancient classes, with limited mobility and a mob attack that only hits 3 enemies?
I also have pretty low damage, apparently, at about 20m DPM 1v1 and 13m DPM mobbing. I 2-3 hit Chief Oblivion Guardians :-(

I wonder which LHC map(s) and mob(s) I'm supposed to train on?

No AP in HP. Just ~20 AP still left on INT.

Oh, well i would suggest farming energizers and selling for 250k each. Getting 4 takes <3 minutes + double bag drops and you can use the easy money to buy %str items. You can work your way up without having to cube yourself but you'll be losing your investment in the long run. Just my advice.

I wonder which LHC map(s) and mob(s) I'm supposed to train on?

Either stone golems or beowolves. Personally i think stone golems in map 3 is the best map hands down, but it depends entirely on your party and it's synergy. A s'hit party that's very strong won't do that much better than a well coordinated weaker party.

Eh that's like 9% str on most pieces isn't it? It's good but not really godly. Hard to achieve, yeah.

9%, 9%, 6%, 4%, 4%, 3%, 3%, 3%, 3%, 1%. I don't have % str on my belt or pendant, but pretty much everything else with slots... The first 2 have 2 lines %str (6+3) and the rest are just the primary line.

Still trying to upgrade those last couple equips (lv.87/107/127 belt/pendants are hard to find, not settling for an untradeable equip if I can at all help it), and replace a couple of the 3% items with 3-lined ones before trying to make them epic.

I did spend about 30 cubes on one of the 9% equips but the rest I think were pretty reasonable. Paid 300m for an epic 2-lined eye accessory, which I think was a decent deal. The rest are just my pre-BB gear with potential + cubes applied, or bought cheaply (20-30mil)

A few of my slots are already set up for end game status i just need to cube them further. My cape i'd probably sell to work on a 3 line +dex blackfist but i'd have to make or buy it and with my making experience i'd have no problem making it but they are kind of expensive and a deficit in dex i can't quite afford when wearing a 120 lhc glove for +10 or higher att with decSE is my next project...which requires 120 dex.