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Darkmaniak Wrote:I don't know, I tried the new ryze but I liked the old one better.
The shorter time in the ultimate is really noticeable, same for the trade of AP for Spell Vamp. Also, he's as squishy as it gets, I would always get focused and killed in 2 hits, maybe my item build wasn't right but it's a very simillar build to what I use on Heim, who is also squishy (Tear > shoes > Arc. Staff) but I rarely die with Heim. Anyway, if I play it again, I would start with a catalyst into RoA, then tear and then a banshee's...

It seems like the best route so far to go with ryze is this.

Mana crystal->tear asap
boots->mpen boots
Haunting guise
Rod of Ages
Lichbane

Running 9/0/21 masteries and going for mpen reds/mana regen per level yellows/cooldown blues/ and hp quints.
of course things are situational and I might try doing a soulstealer in there too sometime.
KajitiSouls Wrote:The Digital Collector's Pack gives you the most bang for your buck by far.

Just curious, what does that package contain? :f6:

Also, I've been hearing that Maokai is best played not full tank, but tank/support. And he consumes mana heavily. However, his AP scaling is bad, not great if one is playing caster on him. I will try to test him out today and get a feel of how he's really played (will play tanky on him)

Unleashing Wrote:Also there's a difference to buying an item that helps your champion somewhat and buying something retarded. Abyssal and rylai help amumu dealing damage and slowing enemies and surviving more. No matter if there are better items and that his job isn't to deal damage they help, meki pendant doesnt help any of them.

The fact that you think it's trolling and not just testing different builds to see what you enjoy, it makes me sorry for you Sad
What if Will has more fun building amumu with some AP items? Should he drop having fun for the sake of doing what is the very best? No. He should have fun.

Adding on to that:

GreyorGrey, I can tell you're serious. Sometimes, you're too serious to the point where you offend quite a few people that are in this thread. I even find some of your posts a bit disdainful. First of all, why bash on people who like to toy with what builds they are following to see what happens? You're not playing my account. You are you. You are not me. Why worry? As long the build doesn't go way off of what is expected for the champion, then I don't see a problem with me building a tanky DPS out of Amumu (with a couple of AP items). And plus, I tested it out just yesterday and now I know what I have to do if I ever go tanky DPS with Amumu. What about you? You only speak of it in theory, but testing it live and seeing what it could for yourself is a drastic difference.

Go and mock me all you want for doing what I'm doing for Amumu. But I can say with confidence that I have the basic foundations for playing Amumu, and now I'm simply exploring Amumu a bit more by toying around with builds. We have our serious sides when we play LoL, but sometimes we like to joke around. One example is when we get together and play Bravery matches. Fun stuff, and we have a lot of fun despite the fact we have a high chance of losing due to the crazy builds that "Bravery" games require.

Unleashing Wrote:Recruiting people for a bravery match ~

WAIT. ARE YOU COMING BACK TO THE US SERVERS TO DO THIS?!

(Btw this has to be done on smurf accounts since doing it against high-leveled people might not go so well. Then again, with the new IP/XP system in place, we could literally troll them...Rolleyes)
WillDaSnail Wrote:Just curious, what does that package contain? :f6:

Annie
Kayle
Ryze
Alistar
Sivir
Teemo
Tristana
Warwick
Trydemere
Morgana
Zilean
Evelynn
Cho Gath
Amumu
Rammus
Janna
Veigar
Malphie
Nasus
Fiddlesticks

Goth annie skin, a couple of runes (greater mark of malice, greater glyph of knowledge, greater seal of vitality and greater quint of revival) and 1779 rp.

phew that was a quite a list.

Ontopic i just had an amazing game as support morg. 5/0/9 and we pushed into their mid inhib and they surrendered because we were just vaporising them.
WillDaSnail Wrote:WAIT. ARE YOU COMING BACK TO THE US SERVERS TO DO THIS?!

(Btw this has to be done on smurf accounts since doing it against high-leveled people might not go so well. Then again, with the new IP/XP system in place, we could literally troll them...Rolleyes)
Sure, i don't mind.
Else imma do it on the EU servers tonight and post results Rolleyes
If you're up for it, tell me.
Unleashing Wrote:Sure, i don't mind.
Else imma do it on the EU servers tonight and post results Rolleyes
If you're up for it, tell me.

I'm up for it. This weekend, perhaps? Big Grin

Bravery build for the Bravery games for those that are wondering Wrote:Queue up with a full five man premade.

Five MAN. I'm talking CHESTHAIR UP TO YOUR NOSES.

Once the game loads, CHOOSE A RANDOM CHAMPION. This is accomplished by selecting NOTHINGNESS, and then PUNCHING the LOCK IN button with your BARE, HAIRY FIST.

In game, WARN THE ENEMY that they are about to face BRAVERY!

Build SWORD OF THE OCCULT, MEIJAS SOULSTEALER and LEVIATHAN. The order is up to you, but REAL MEN BUILD LEVIATHAN LAST. Also, do not buy any of Doran's stuff. HE WAS A COWARD AND A PEASANT.

Once you've TRIPLE SNOWBALLED it up, you may inform your enemies that you have ACHIEVED LEVEL THREE BRAVERY.

Build TRINITY FORCE next. If the game drags out long enough, add TIAMAT.

You may at any point buy boots if your FEET ARE NOT SUFFICIENTLY HAIRY.

Congratulations, maggot! You have achieved BRAVERY.
Signing up for Bravery :3
I'll be at a LAN all weekend Biggrin
So i'm ready.
Unleashing Wrote:I feel sorry for you, i really do.
That you can't try and do something for fun and alter your build. You can't open your mind and grasp that people might enjoy a champion more building him another way. Some people build AP MF because they have fun that way. I guess games aren't meant for fun in your book?
Seems like this guy would never try to do a bravery match,and talking of bravery match anyone up for one tonight? I got time and i'm on vacation.

Also there's a difference to buying an item that helps your champion somewhat and buying something retarded. Abyssal and rylai help amumu dealing damage and slowing enemies and surviving more. No matter if there are better items and that his job isn't to deal damage they help, meki pendant doesnt help any of them.

The fact that you think it's trolling and not just testing different builds to see what you enjoy, it makes me sorry for you Sad
What if Will has more fun building amumu with some AP items? Should he drop having fun for the sake of doing what is the very best? No. He should have fun.


Recruiting people for a bravery match ~

Well to be honest you are right. I would do bravery matches and I do play matches for fun, but those are all custom matches. I play ARAM, ARAZ, Bravery matches but I don't do them in normal games. Normal games are only fun if they are one of two things in my opinion, either a really tight close game that one mistake decides the outcome of the match either we win or lose and i'll still have enjoyed myself or win through building appropriately pub-stomp or not winning is fun in my definition. So you can feel sorry for me all you want I don't care. Rylai helps amumu because of his cry true but abyssal should never be on an amumu's build idc what you want to say there's tons of items that do what abyssal would do fo him and much more. Also like you said luxury is cause you want to so yeah I wanna get meki pendent on my akali/kennen my luxury, derp.
Duelman Wrote:It seems like the best route so far to go with ryze is this.

Mana crystal->tear asap
boots->mpen boots
Haunting guise
Rod of Ages
Lichbane

Running 9/0/21 masteries and going for mpen reds/mana regen per level yellows/cooldown blues/ and hp quints.
of course things are situational and I might try doing a soulstealer in there too sometime.

Building AP on Ryze is fairly worthless now. He scales better off of mana, and with that comes plenty of tanky builds and some CDR. Hell, someone on the official forums suggested building Manamune on him, and I actually agree with it.
Manamune does seem like an alright idea. I've played a few games with him and noticed a few things:

Overload is really strong.
Spell Flux kinda blows.
Rune Prison is buggy. If you're chasing a target, and they're at the edge of your range, Ryze will stop, do the casting animation, but the spell won't go off. If you put W on smartcast and mash it as you're chasing someone he does this stupid seizure walk and it ends up slowing you right down.
KajitiSouls Wrote:Building AP on Ryze is fairly worthless now. He scales better off of mana, and with that comes plenty of tanky builds and some CDR. Hell, someone on the official forums suggested building Manamune on him, and I actually agree with it.

Sounds interesting, might have to try some ryze this weekend.
Finally starting to play well again, I had a series of games where I just sucked... now I've finished some games with low deaths, high assists and ok kills.
KEEP GETTING STUCK WITH TERRIBLE TEAMMATES. SO FRUSTRATING BECAUSE IT MAKES ME LOOK LIKE A TERRIBLE PLAYER, BUT NO ONE UNDERSTANDS HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. IT'S NOT MY FAULT IF I DIE BECAUSE YOU ALL RUN AWAY LIKE platypi THEN EXPECT ME TO HANDLE EVERYTHING. LEARN TO PLAY BLITZ AND SIVIR BEFORE JOINING A MATCH WITH THEM. MALZAHAR CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.
Welcome to my world of tanking at low ELOs. Seriously, it's horrible. 98% of the time pomegranate's my fault. "SHEN WHY DIDN'T YOU ULT" "I'm level 5..."
So who's up for a Bravery match this weekend? (Note: Can only played with smurfs). I have Kurtle, me, and Unleashing down so far. :f6:
What do you mean, can only be played with smurfs?
I don't care what account you use or play on, i'll play on the only US account i got Rolleyes
Corn Wrote:What do you mean, can only be played with smurfs?

Last time me and Kaj and a couple others played on our main accounts (well, Kaj was smurfing, but 3-4 of us were on our main accounts), our opponents quickly figured us out and quickly went nuts on us. So to get the "full experience", it would be best if you could do it on your low-level accounts or something like that lol.
Oh. Well, my main is pretty low-leveled anyways, ha ha.

I might join, but don't count on it.
Corn Wrote:Oh. Well, my main is pretty low-leveled anyways, ha ha.

I might join, but don't count on it.

Eh I think your level might be fine, lol.

Ima give Maokai a try tomorrow. Don't have time today. >_<


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