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KajitiSouls Wrote:I don't see why his passive wouldn't stack with Abyssal Scepter.
I was reading around and some people said Amumu's passive doesn't stack with any item with MR reduction effects. I just needed to ask around to see if that's true or not, lol
Hey if it does stack, the more the merrier. Makes me more deadlier.
Has anyone built Amumu as a tanky DPS before? :f6:
P.S. Riot didn't fix Panth's mandrop problem?
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WillDaSnail Wrote:I was reading around and some people said Amumu's passive doesn't stack with any item with MR reduction effects. I just needed to ask around to see if that's true or not, lol
Hey if it does stack, the more the merrier. Makes me more deadlier. 
Okay I just re-read your post. There's a difference between Penetration and Reduction. Penetration is a stat that adds on to your attacks alone, and treats the enemy as if they had lower defense. Reduction is a debuff that everyone on the other team benefits from, and can reduce the enemy's defense rating below 0 (Penetration cannot), but otherwise it's like Penetration. Reduction is factored first before Penetration, e.g. if you had 20 Armor Penetration and 20 Armor Reduction at your disposal vs. an enemy with 30 Armor, your attacks would only do damage as if the target had 0 Armor, a.k.a. full damage, but not over 100%.
Quote:P.S. Riot didn't fix Panth's mandrop problem? 
Unless they say otherwise, one would err on the side that nothing happened.
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My response to the patch notes:
That kinda sucks for Anivia's easy-as-hell R/E.
Pantheon HSS nerf was unneeded.
I have a feeling Ryze might be overpowered. With Smartcast and CDR, he'll be able to fire off spells REALLY fast.
Boomerang Blade damage reduction increase is a bit much.
Vlad is slightly less annoying, hooray
Yay @ rune thingy
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Phoenix Wright Wrote:My response to the patch notes:
That kinda sucks for Anivia's easy-as-hell R/E.
Pantheon HSS nerf was unneeded.
I have a feeling Ryze might be overpowered. With Smartcast and CDR, he'll be able to fire off spells REALLY fast.
Boomerang Blade damage reduction increase is a bit much.
Vlad is slightly less annoying, hooray
Yay @ rune thingy
Anivia's R+E was a whole lot like Heimerdinger's old Hextech Micromissiles on a smaller scale. Micromissiles had a huge range of 1300 or something, and it hit all champions and only champions in range, regardless of what they were doing. You couldn't get close to the person without eating it in the face, and in the case you were losing, it felt very defeating.
Boomerang Blade's base damage got jacked up, and so did the AD ratio. It's a compromise for early game, but late game it won't be as glorious as it was before.
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Buying the pomegranate out of Evil Tome on Lux.
Surrender Time ++
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madanthony Wrote:Buying the pomegranate out of Evil Tome on Lux.
Surrender Time ++
Inb4 Evil Tome gets a bit costlier the next patch after this upcoming patch.
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WillDaSnail Wrote:Inb4 Evil Tome gets a bit costlier the next patch after this upcoming patch. 
Would not surprise me in the slightest. 100-200 gold higher would not be unreasonable.
How to work into build though... Probably stick with Tear of Goddess>RoA then get Morello. More skill spam ahoy!
Has anyone ever taken Fortify on Rammus just for some potential laning lulz?
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madanthony Wrote:Has anyone ever taken Fortify on Rammus just for some potential laning lulz?
LOL. That would be awesome if you Taunted the enemy who's harassing your turret + let the turret go wild.
Anyways, has anyone tried tanky DPSing with Amumu? :f6:
Edit: LoL server maintenance/patch is about to start in about an hour from now.
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madanthony Wrote:Has anyone ever taken Fortify on Rammus just for some potential laning lulz?
I've seen a few people killed by that before. Good for laughs indeed.
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champion spotlight reveals the new champ to be much more tanky than support, YAY!
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WillDaSnail Wrote:Anyways, has anyone tried tanky DPSing with Amumu? :f6:
I've tried semi-mage-semi-tank amumu but i've never gone out of my way to buy AD and attack speed items.
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Maokai spotlight makes him look amazing even though his attacks dont even seem to scratch opponents... Maybe thats why he needed a buff.
Also lol at his knockback skill only knocking back people like 1mm.
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I like this patch overall. I cannot wait to play me some machine gun ryze cause he sure will be strong as hell with his passives on q and w. 10% and 5% of your max mana in bonus damage respectively is going to go great with the low cooldowns+ passive making his c/d's lower each cast.
Boomerang blade got changed to do more base damage but only scale off of bonus AD similar to caitlyn's PP (Q).
I presume the AP scaling on it has not been changed so it may be better to go AP+Bloodrazor on her now.
I read in the forums today that a red has done changes to caitlyn and they will be going live on the patch after this one! YAY!!
Hopefully it means that she'll be more viable so I didn't waste 6300 on her.
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KajitiSouls Wrote:Aka Patch Day, or when the servers are muchofkeroo'd.
Patch notes are up!
--Tryndamere's Undying Rage now overrides suppression. Oh my....
No need to oh my, you can still surpress him while he's in rage which is what i do to prevent him from 1-2 shotting my team mates when i play WW. Suppression was never supposed to prevent him from using rage and it was a bug that caused it, which i personally have never seen. When someone told me it stopped his ult i tried it a few times and it was false information, so i'm guessing it only happened in certain cases.
@Unleashing, ap amumu is a complete waste of time and useless. His skills do enough damage as it is and aoe at that.. He's a tank leave him at that, idk why you guys are even discussing turning him into some dps hybrid..
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GreyorGray Wrote:@Unleashing, ap amumu is a complete waste of time and useless. His skills do enough damage as it is and aoe at that.. He's a tank leave him at that, idk why you guys are even discussing turning him into some dps hybrid..
Wow sorry but do you even bother to pineappleing read before making a comment?
I said I TRIED SEMI-MAGE-SEMI-TANK AMUMU. I DIDNT SAY HE WASN'T A TANK AND THAT YOU SHOULD BUILD HIM AS AP.
I said before in this thread that i've tried AP-yi but that doesnt pineappleing mean i'm telling people that's the ideal way to build yi.
I said as LUXURY ITEMS you could get something like abyssal scepter or rylai's but his core is tank-items.
I even said "If that wasn't a joke your sense of priority is messed up " As in get tank items before any of the luxury items.
I didnt at one point recommend going AP, amumu and i don't even care about the AP on rylai's scepter but it's a good luxury item on him because of AOE constant slow.
And abyssal scepter is good if your team got a ton of magic damage and the enemies got a lot of magic damage too.
But they're both luxury items.
I'm not discussing turning him into a dps hybrid, the pineapple.
Sorry but it makes me rage if people act as if i said something i never said.
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GreyorGray Wrote:No need to oh my, you can still surpress him while he's in rage which is what i do to prevent him from 1-2 shotting my team mates when i play WW. Suppression was never supposed to prevent him from using rage and it was a bug that caused it, which i personally have never seen. When someone told me it stopped his ult i tried it a few times and it was false information, so i'm guessing it only happened in certain cases.
A whole lot of people disagreed with Tryndamere being able to break out of suppression (because they wanted it to really be a super stun?), and I've seen it used to blow him up a few times before he could go apeshyt crazy on us. Though normally such a situation doesn't happen.
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Duelman Wrote:I read in the forums today that a red has done changes to caitlyn and they will be going live on the patch after this one! YAY!!
Hopefully it means that she'll be more viable so I didn't waste 6300 on her.
*Hi fives.* Hope they buffed her traps.
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