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I just bought Metroid : Other M for $13 Brand New
#21
ShiKage Wrote:It's funny, because most negative comments about this game are of changes in the series. You know that if a game is the same way throughout the entire series, it's going to be extremely dull and redundant, right? Change is always good, because it refreshes the games and makes the older ones more special.

What? No, I was meaning story-wise.
That or just not have much of a story at all, be like a kickass Metroid NES reboot.
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#22
Shippo the Fox Wrote:There is nothing gold about it.

It's mediocre as I said before. The gameplay, the most important part of the game, saved it.

The Story, characterization, and dialog was amazingly poor which hurt the game greatly.

Are you kidding me? There's absolutely nothing wrong with this game. The only thing I see people complaining about is that they actually gave Samus a personality, when people apparently want her to be a voiceless robot of a Human. The voices were good... I don't know what you're talking about. And the story? What is this supposed to be? The single best story ever made? Yeah... I think you want to go read some Shakespeare or other great writers' work. It's a freaking video game. You can't expect the best work in the world.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with this game. It's extremely well made and I'll definitely be playing this again. I'm in love. It's like a perfect mixture of the original Metroid type game play with Metroid Prime elements.

Secun Wrote:What? No, I was meaning story-wise.
That or just not have much of a story at all, be like a kickass Metroid NES reboot.

I didn't say that toward you. The Metroid Prime trilogy was in its own league. It wasn't like the rest of the series at all, but it was amazing.
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#23
Oh god. Please please, finish the game and read the link I posted. Stories CAN be good in video games. If a game has a crappy story, saying that it's a video game doesn't void the fact the story is BAD. If it's being delivered EXCEPTIONALLY bad and the game focuses on it. It drags the game down as a whole.

 Warning, Other M spoilers video
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#24
Yes, I know stories can be good in video games. I know quite a few examples, but Metroid : Other M isn't bad. It's pretty good, actually. It's not the best out there, but it certainly isn't bad.


I'm currently at the part where Adam just died (No surprise if you've played through the Metroid series, since Fusion states that he died) and

 Spoiler

I'm not sure how much longer I have until the end. It doesn't seem like much, though.


I get to replay this game entirely through again when I get home, since I'm playing this on my mom's Wii. I don't have an SD card to take home with the save data on it.



Oh... One more thing to add :

From a video game stand point, you really can't hate the fact that Samus was restricted from using her abilities. If she wasn't restricted, she would be over powered from the get-go and the whole game would be insanely easy. At least this way, you get stronger as you progress, like any other game. Sure, the way it happens is a bit different, but what's wrong with that? The same concepts over and over and over get old... Even with the Zelda series, which is one of the best video game series out there, getting weapons in dungeons is a bit redundant by now. A good change in the style would be nice. At least Metroid : Other M delivers that.



These types of things remind me of what Fry said on Futurama. It was something like, "People want to see what they've seen thousands of times. As soon as you change that, they get confused and infuriated."

Edit : Oh... I was off a bit. Here it is :

"But that's not why people watch TV! Clever things make people feel stupid, and unexpected things make people feel scared!"

"TV audiences don't want anything original - they wanna see the same thing they've seen a thousand times before!"
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#25
You can't be serious?

Because Samus gets a personality its better? The no personality Samus is better than this one. She has become a dependent wuss. Can't do anything without Adam. And breaks down in front of Ridley? Seriously?!

The Voice acting was lame. It really is and the dialog is just silly sometimes.

And having Adam "authorize" what items she can use is about the worst thing in the entire game.

"Hi I'm Samus. Even though I'm in an entire sector which is essentially a gigantic volcano which has intense heat killing me I'm not going to use my common sense and activate the Varia Suit. No, I'm going to wait until Adam tells me to do it which is when I'm damn near done with the sector."

There is a reason they made her lose her abilities and upgrades at the beginning of every game or the end of the previous games.

And they killed the feeling of isolationism which is pretty much prevalent in all the Metroid Games. Samus alone against the world.
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#26
Shippo the Fox Wrote:You can't be serious?

Because Samus gets a personality its better? The no personality Samus is better than this one. She has become a dependent wuss. Can't do anything without Adam. And breaks down in front of Ridley? Seriously?!

The Voice acting was lame. It really is and the dialog is just silly sometimes.

And having Adam "authorize" what items she can use is about the worst thing in the entire game.

"Hi I'm Samus. Even though I'm in an entire sector which is essentially a gigantic volcano which has intense heat killing me I'm not going to use my common sense and activate the Varia Suit. No, I'm going to wait until Adam tells me to do it which is when I'm damn near done with the sector."

There is a reason they made her lose her abilities and upgrades at the beginning of every game or the end of the previous games.

And they killed the feeling of isolationism which is pretty much prevalent in all the Metroid Games. Samus alone against the world.

And so my last tid bit at the end of my post makes sense.

People don't like change. They want the same thing they've had the past one-thousand times.
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#27
People don't mind change if it is for the better.

This was not for the better.
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#28
Shippo the Fox Wrote:People don't mind change if it is for the better.

This was not for the better.

What would be for the better then? The same thing we've had in every game is everything you're begging for. lol

"Samus should be alone!"

"Samus should be like a robot!"

"Samus should never follow anyone's orders!" (By the way, this one is ridiculous. >_> Did you guys ever play Fusion? She followed the orders of the Galactic Federation's computer, which was built after Adam, throughout the entire game.)

"Metroid should never have a story!"


Yep. Okay.
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#29
Yes I would have it that way.

You're just ignoring what makes Metroid amazing.
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#30
Shippo the Fox Wrote:Yes I would have it that way.

You're just ignoring what makes Metroid amazing.

No, I'm not. I'm a huge fan of the series. I've played each of them at least twice over. There's nothing about Metroid : Other M that I don't find absolutely amazing.
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#31
As a stand alone game it would be decent.

As a Metroid game, it's terrible. No exploring allowed. Hand holding at all times. Sh'itty Japanese melodrama peppered in everywhere. Sakamoto is insane and doesn't know how to make a Metroid game.

Spoilers: No one played Metroid for the story. Metroid Prime had an interesting story, but they never shoved it in your face. I could spend a couple hours reading through all the computer logs and monster entries, but some people never bothered, yet they still enjoy the game. Other M forces you to watch the (terrible) story through drawn out cut scenes.

tl;dr, Other M is just a decent game if it wasn't too busy raping the Metroid name.
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#33
That's the thing. The Bottle Ship is like one giant hallway. And IIRC, you may be able to peek into other Sectors, but you'll most likely be blocked right away by something you need a suit upgrade for. Other M's exploration depth is about as deep as running through a school.
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#34
Mark Wrote:That's the thing. The Bottle Ship is like one giant hallway. And IIRC, you may be able to peek into other Sectors, but you'll most likely be blocked right away by something you need a suit upgrade for. Other M's exploration depth is about as deep as running through a school.

That's different from any other Metroid how? Every area has places where you need certain upgrades.

Metroid Prime : You couldn't go into certain rooms without certain beams or go to certain parts of maps due to not having certain upgrades.

Metroid Fusion : You were blocked off of areas for not having certain suits or weapons.

Metroid Zero Mission : I remember from just playing the other day a map I couldn't go through in Brinstar because I didn't have a certain upgrade.
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#35
mfw you ignored all my other points and instead bring up 2 other games made by that idiot Sakamoto and Prime for some reason.

Fusion is as bad as Other M in terms of hand holding and exploration. Zero Mission is just a remake of the original, so it gets a free pass. Metroid Prime is how you do a 3D Metroid. Plus, it can be sequence broken, which opens up a lot of neat stuff. Other M? NOPE. Walk down this hallway, fight enemies, go through door for more hallway walkan. Oh noes, I am burnan...but thats ok, I'll just wait till Adam tells me to activate my Varia suit.

Sh'it sucks.
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#36
Mark Wrote:mfw you ignored all my other points and instead bring up 2 other games made by that idiot Sakamoto and Prime for some reason.

Fusion is as bad as Other M in terms of hand holding and exploration. Zero Mission is just a remake of the original, so it gets a free pass. Metroid Prime is how you do a 3D Metroid. Plus, it can be sequence broken, which opens up a lot of neat stuff. Other M? NOPE. Walk down this hallway, fight enemies, go through door for more hallway walkan. Oh noes, I am burnan...but thats ok, I'll just wait till Adam tells me to activate my Varia suit.

Sh'it sucks.

So you say, the only way a game can be enjoyable is if you can completely destroy the main flow of the game?

I couldn't care less if I could... I like doing what the game intended me to do. That's how a game is played and that's all I look for in a game. If I CAN do more, great. If I can't, no bother to me. A game is meant to be played the way the creator intended it to be, so that's how I play.

I personally felt like Metroid : Other M was great and had a good story. I couldn't care less what you think about it, since I won't let your opinions or tearing apart of the game destroy my opinion of it.

I can bring up other examples too, like with Super Metroid, how every time I went somewhere, I thought I was going the right way, but as soon as I found myself progressing, I found myself stuck because I didn't have a certain weapon upgrade, like that one door at the beginning that you needed a Super Missile for. As soon as I obtained that and passed through the door, LOLNO! I needed a Power Bomb.
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#37
There is a gigantic difference with not having an upgrade and you having to find the room with it and having it from the start and not being able to use it because a douche behind a computer screen is telling you not to use your upgrade despite it being complete common sense to use it to avoid burning to death.
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#38
Shippo the Fox Wrote:There is a gigantic difference with not having an upgrade and you having to find the room with it and having it from the start and not being able to use it because a douche behind a computer screen is telling you not to use your upgrade despite it being complete common sense to use it to avoid burning to death.

So, you want to have every upgrade from the start and over kill everything from the beginning? What fun is that?

I do agree that some points in the game, like with Ridley, were ridiculous with how things played out between Adam and Samus, but... Samus had to be limited in the game somehow. Just because it was done differently in Other M, it doesn't mean it's terrible. It's just different. I found it more enjoyable to have a different pace of things than to kill a boss, get an upgrade. It's like that in just about every single console game I've ever played. It's pretty redundant.
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#39
No, but it adds infinite replay value. Super Metroid is like 16 years old, and people still speed run it competitively.

Clearly we have two different definitions of exploration. To me, Other M has none because you're having your hand held the entire way. I don't want Adam breathing down my neck, he needs to f'uck right off. I don't want to see other SPESS MAHREENS. I also don't want more SPESS SHTASHIONS. Sakamoto couldn't design an original world if his life depended on it. The only thing Other M has going for it is some good boss battles. Otherwise, I don't really care for it.

>Good story

0/10
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#40
You keep completely missing the point.
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