The Archer Discussion Thread

Aren't summons essentially glorified DoT skills in the form of a companion anyways? I mean, sure, you don't exactly have full control over what they attack, and they don't bypass Super Defense Up, but still...

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Reached level 110 on my Ranger yesterday. I hoped to reach 112 during 2x today, but my brother just had to turn on that blasted virtual machine that screwed me over by completely booting me off the internet one hour before and during the entire 2x event.

Man, these last 10 levels are going to be painful... I guess tomorrow, I'm going to scout out the Ghost Pirates. The 2x event yesterday made me sick of Pirate's Den. All the minidungeons across all channels were full (along with the rather funny complaining about the minidungeons being full from all of my fellow archer friends, many of which had not met each other), and I partied with a Wild Hunter friend along with a 120 battlemage looking for a mastery book outside of the minidungeon. During those 20 minutes, I observed at least 2 people trying to KS us at all times. Bleh.

Maria, your guild does Zakum runs, right? I heard that the Dragon's Breath skillbook was moved to being a drop from Zakum now. When I become a Bowmaster (planning on putting 1 point in Hurricane, 1 in Phoenix, and 1 in Dragon's Breath when I advance, then max out Bow Expertise), can I join one of your guild's runs in the hopes that my Windows 7 compatability issues are truly resolved and to try to find a Dragon Pulse skillbook?

Maria, your guild does Zakum runs, right? I heard that the Dragon's Breath skillbook was moved to being a drop from Zakum now. When I become a Bowmaster (planning on putting 1 point in Hurricane, 1 in Phoenix, and 1 in Dragon's Breath when I advance, then max out Bow Expertise), can I join one of your guild's runs in the hopes that my Windows 7 compatability issues are truly resolved and to try to find a Dragon Pulse skillbook?

Oh what? I thought it was automatically obtained, but I hadn't thought about the fact that it's not a skill obtained via quest. We don't really do boss runs (we're more of a casual guild), but we are easily able to. I can either plan one sometime this weekend or the next (depends on my schedule) or I can try doing solo runs and letting you have the book if I get it (no need to pay for scissors, I'd gladly karma it for free for you).

Book's not dropped by anything, disregard that. You won't have to worry about getting it, haha.

What I hate about Zakum is how often it's camped out now. I tried a solo at one point and just got sick of waiting because people were always there before me and I'm too nice to jack rooms.

Dragon Breath is automatically obtained.

Dragon Breath is automatically obtained.

Okay, that's what I thought after looking it up. It's not dropped by anything. Disregard my last post. >_>

It's not like Dragon's breath is useful either way.

Well, it's not like I can mow stuff down with Inferno/Bomb/Rain like you can do with Pierce. And PKB is a [censored] to use, what with the delay and all. One point in it should be enough for it to completely replace PKB.

Oh, Dragon Breath is automatically obtained? There goes half of my 4th job advancement worries. I was told otherwise a while back (especially considering the logic that it wasn't originally a quest skill), but it's good to know that I won't have to attend a Zakum run for it now.

Well, it's not like I can mow stuff down with Inferno/Bomb/Rain like you can do with Pierce. And PKB is a [censored] to use, what with the delay and all. One point in it should be enough for it to completely replace PKB.

Oh, Dragon Breath is automatically obtained? There goes half of my 4th job advancement worries. I was told otherwise a while back (especially considering the logic that it wasn't originally a quest skill), but it's good to know that I won't have to attend a Zakum run for it now.

Yeah, I actually just remembered that Dragon's Breath was obtained through El Nath PQ before (and if it still did, I had an extra green book for it lying around anyway), so it almost makes no sense for it to be obtained through Zakum after Big Bang.

I don't understand why they nerfed power knock back so horridly. Pre bigbang it used to be spammable without a delay, if you hit the bosses kb with pkb it would slide them back. I don't understand why they changed it so much... they could've just given it a 100% success rate and kept it the same.

The only way i'll ever add any points to dragons breath is if the first level hit 6 monsters. I don't think it's too much to ask for. I don't think it's too much to ask for that it hits more than 6 at max level. It always was a source of disconnecting and rage for me..

Power Knock Back > Dragon Breath in one way.. it hits 6 monsters rather than 4 at Level 1 DB

Other than that.. Dragon Breath is ranged. spammable. and looks cooler.

Don't see why it's hated.. it's not useless like Vengeance >_>

Back when I was still active I co-lead a guild called Undisputed was a successful guild in Khaini. Founded by four top bm's at that time...too bad we all quit '~' after meso expoilt.
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Except in what kind of situation can PKB hit more than 4 mobs at a time? Not only is the delay ridiculous, but it feels like it recieved a nerf in range as well.

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Went to Ghost Pirates for a while. Observed that I'd be lucky to be hitting more than three of them at a time with Inferno unless I used PKB, which results in taking a lot more hits than usual. This opposed to hitting 5+ Kru/Captains with Arrow Rain with little effort. The EXP difference between Ghost Pirates and Captains/Kru was only something like 150-200 as well, although I was inflicting far more damage on Ghost Pirates due to their Fire weakness. Still decided to go back to Pirate's Den after half an hour (especially what with the added bonus of the occasional potentialed Red Armis dropping from Kru).

I guess Ghost Pirates would be faster for most other classes, especially those that can efficiently gather up mobs or have high mobility. But from the looks of it, I'll be staying at Pirate's Den 2 until 4th job, unless Blue Kentaurus at Level 117(?) are somehow better.

120 baby!
Idk about famous BM's but I would definitely give props to Tanchan4, who finished Neo Tokyo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp-gx9smB...re=related
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I don't even get an honorable mention eh? >;( No respect for marksmen?

I was playing xbow since BETA, back when it was cool to make fun of crossbows for being inferior, less populated, and "ugly cos it covers ur face"

I don't even get an honorable mention eh? >;( No respect for marksmen?

I was playing xbow since BETA, back when it was cool to make fun of crossbows for being inferior, less populated, and "ugly cos it covers ur face"

Archer Discussion, not only BMs

I stripped my BM and this is the bare minimum needed to equip the bow.

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Hey, look on the bright side - it seems that at least you'll probably be ready for Level 130-140 equips, should you choose to get one and scroll one.

I have 78 base STR. I don't know how, but I somehow managed to get 127 total STR. As a level 112. And my equips are above average at best.

I'm set for a LONG time in the secondary stat department.

I stripped my BM and this is the bare minimum needed to equip the bow.

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I know how you feel, I get like 142 total STR with my equips with 80 base and this is withOUT a Scar helm. Granted, I need 125 for my bow but it's still annoying having so much excess STR. >:|

Hehe..

I has 50 base STR :3

Hehe..

I has 50 base STR :3

Welp. This character is old.

^ 2005. o_o Windia came out in 2006, no? So either you server transferred or Windia's older than I thought, lol.

My BM was made in 2008, lol. Any character I made after then were low-stat. >_>