Dark knight VS HT.

My question pertains too, and what really worries me is can sacrifice hit all parts of HT? It has a pretty weak range, that mimicking of power slash or whatever the first job skill was.

I'm really concerned I'll be wasting another good 20 minutes spamming crusher on the arms/mid head. Although the mid head looks like I may have just enough to hit it. Arm's I'm really skeptical about though. Can anyone confirm?

Also a quick, less priority question is what parts should go down first? I'm assuming tail/legs/body first then move up from there?

Thanks.

Going to solo ht? Wanna duo?

I think the only part you'll have trouble with is the mid head. Hands you probably can't hit unless they're extended. Haven't been to ht in a long while though.

Going to solo ht? Wanna duo?

I think the only part you'll have trouble with is the mid head. Hands you probably can't hit unless they're extended. Haven't been to ht in a long while though.

Gonna try solo to see how feasible it is but we can arrange a duo thing, ez profits!

But yeah that's gonna really suck if I can't hit arms other than crusher :/. That's nearly 600 crushers needed for each arm ;-;.

>ez profits

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES. Exp will be very nice too despite you hogging all the DPS.

But that's only like 10.5 minutes at normal (6) LOL. I'm probably overestimating how far away the arms are from the platform and i'm not comfortable with spear/PA range so i could easily be wrong. How are you going to get past seduce when you solo?

>ez profits

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES. Exp will be very nice too despite you hogging all the DPS.

But that's only like 10.5 minutes at normal (6) LOL. I'm probably overestimating how far away the arms are from the platform and i'm not comfortable with spear/PA range so i could easily be wrong. How are you going to get past seduce when you solo?

Well the damage didn't look TOO bad, I was thinkin I could essentially bull head it, and hope to god I don't die. I bought like 10 wheels back in november so I have some to burn in this experiment lmao.

How do people even do to solo HT regarding seduce? Bring in a mule with auto pot or something?

They don't kill the spawn at bottom and take low touch damage from those.

Also my friend solos HT a lot, he's a high leveled Hero and has like over 30k hp on his self Hb, with Achilles he even survives being 1/1ed.

I know my BM friend before BB used his high avoid to survive. Idk about ranged now.

From personal experience, you can hit anything with Sacrifice. Just make sure you aren't really going to hit EVERYTHING with Sacrifice.

Also,
>tail/legs/body
What.

I haven't really had the chance to play around with my Drk after BigBang, so idk but Crusher on 2 targets could rival Sacrifice in DPS, only safer to use on Legs + Tail.
After that, I suggest going for Wings + either Arm, but stop once the Wings are dead, you don't want Seduce so soon.
(Either that, or do Legs + Wings + left arm until the first 2 are dead, then go Sacrifice the Tail, might be more efficient since you're using everything to its fullest potential)

Then it's pretty smooth sailing, go for right head to get rid of the 1/1, left head for the Dispel, mid head, then take your time and enjoy the ridiculous battle with the 2 arms.
I also suggest using self-HB if you have it. Ironic I know, but deal with it.

From personal experience, you can hit anything with Sacrifice. Just make sure you aren't really going to hit EVERYTHING with Sacrifice.

Also,
>tail/legs/body
What.

Sorry ment legs, for the obvious reason of walking around with seduce. I also have 31k hp, although with these ap resets will try to get to 35-36k tonight. I want the option to hit everything. Obviously multiple such as legs/tail would be smart. I do about half of what my sacrifice does, so I'll be doing two parts at half the time, but because it's two targets it's the same amount, obviously. However if I'm forced to only do arms I mean then it's just halved dps.

I haven't really had the chance to play around with my Drk after BigBang, so idk but Crusher on 2 targets could rival Sacrifice in DPS, only safer to use on Legs + Tail.

Way ahead of ya, as stated above but I'm glad were thinkin on the same lines.

After that, I suggest going for Wings + either Arm, but stop once the Wings are dead, you don't want Seduce so soon.
(Either that, or do Legs + Wings + left arm until the first 2 are dead, then go Sacrifice the Tail, might be more efficient since you're using everything to its fullest potential)

That's exactly what I was going to do. However I'm a lil frazzled with the Tail touch if I recall it's hard. Though could you elaborate more on the seduce, embarrassing to say I haven't had much experience with HT because it was never a boss that interested me nor was applicable during the time I could experiment with it.

Then it's pretty smooth sailing, go for right head to get rid of the 1/1, left head for the Dispel, mid head, then take your time and enjoy the ridiculous battle with the 2 arms.
I also suggest using self-HB if you have it. Ironic I know, but deal with it.

Again thanks for that. I havent actually looked into what part does what when, so anymore advice pertaining to that would be good.

Either Arm would start casting mass Seduce once it hits a certain level of HP. Yes you guessed it, when it's near death. HT regular hosts would develop a knack for telling when the arm is about to come hit that point, but for skeptics, it's safe to stop once the Legs are dead (seeing how they have a lot less HP than the arm).
I was mistakenly believing that it's safe to kill Wings first, but apparently that only applies to squad HT, where the wings can be attacked from both sides, and thus dying before the arm reaches Seduce level. You'll just have to do something about the wings, Sacrifice maybe.

That doesn't mean you're safe from Seduce though. There's still the orderly Seduce which happens from start to end judging by the order of entrant to the cave. You're only saving yourself from the mass Seduce.
About Dispel, I don't think it's too much of a concern if you use self-HB, but it follows 2 cycles, so don't assume you're safe after one Dispel has passed.

The arms can also only use Seduce on people within their half of the screen, so NLs have the option of jump-shooting from the other side. It doesn't mean much for Drk though, unless you wanna play it safe and roar every 10secs.

The arms can also only use Seduce on people within their half of the screen, so NLs have the option of jump-shooting from the other side.

Wait what. Really? Omfg new trick for the poor Night Lord with 8k hp@@@

Either Arm would start casting mass Seduce once it hits a certain level of HP. Yes you guessed it, when it's near death. HT regular hosts would develop a knack for telling when the arm is about to come hit that point, but for skeptics, it's safe to stop once the Legs are dead (seeing how they have a lot less HP than the arm).
I was mistakenly believing that it's safe to kill Wings first, but apparently that only applies to squad HT, where the wings can be attacked from both sides, and thus dying before the arm reaches Seduce level. You'll just have to do something about the wings, Sacrifice maybe.

That doesn't mean you're safe from Seduce though. There's still the orderly Seduce which happens from start to end judging by the order of entrant to the cave. You're only saving yourself from the mass Seduce.
About Dispel, I don't think it's too much of a concern if you use self-HB, but it follows 2 cycles, so don't assume you're safe after one Dispel has passed.

The arms can also only use Seduce on people within their half of the screen, so NLs have the option of jump-shooting from the other side. It doesn't mean much for Drk though, unless you wanna play it safe and roar every 10secs.

A few more questions, the goal of ht to get as many body parts down before mass seduce starts, I get that, but if I were to kill wings/legs then go do tail, my immediate goal would be to kill the arms right? Also by mass are we talking like 2-3 seduces at once?

No, mass Seduce means a group orgy at either of the two bottom corners (everybody present in the cave will be invited), as dictated by HT. The two arms do cast mass Seduce at an annoying frequency though. My 4-man run (with everyone else getting DC hacked) back then took 2.5 hours in total, with a conservatively estimated 90 mins spent entirely on the 2 arms alone once mass Seduce was activated.

Anyway, I personally think it's safest to kill everything without mass Seduce getting in the way -that is, killing everything else without bringing the two arms to critical HP level-, which means kill legs, tail, wings, then heads, and finally arms.

You're still subject to orderly Seduce, which is just as bad if you don't have a mule, so idk how it'll really work out. I have seen some people going for the arms first to get rid of Seduce altogether, but they had insane range so idk.
Let's look at the numbers, you take about 5 minutes to kill the arms with Sacrifice, with constant Seduce (either kind), that makes it 54625654654u6657 hours. So if you can avoid it (by means of mule and not ticking off the arms), please do so. If you can't avoid, I suppose it's best to face it head-on and take it out next, and pray to God that you can.

In simpler terms:
- If you have a Seduce mule: Legs + left Arm + Wings till Legs die -> Tail -> Wings -> Right head -> Left head -> Mid head -> Arms
- If you don't have a Seduce mule: Legs + Left Arm + Wings till Legs die -> Tail -> ARMS -> the rest (really, once the arms are dead it's pretty much done)
Only difference is you'll be annoyed the f'uck out of, if you can at all make it.

If we duo i know a shadower who would be happy to be our sed mule and won't leech exp at all. Might have to get him a HTP though.

If we duo i know a shadower who would be happy to be our sed mule and won't leech exp at all. Might have to get him a HTP though.

We can do a trio squad, but I'm still curious of how long it'll take to solo, my friend teddilicious takes like 1 hour 15, NL, he's not much stronger than me I don't think, but being an NL gives an advantage.

I just want to see if I can do it, probably won't do it until friday or saturday.

Define insane range? I'm currently at 41k.

legs>tail>wings>right arm>left arm> heads is normal order. if you know wut ur doing, you can do it with 0 wheels used. i could do it on my bm with 0 wheels and 10k hp if my pc would let me finish. just gotta know tricks

Trio wouldn't be so bad for time but i might be a little indifferent towards the exp we would all get. That's my main reason for soloing bosses and stuff. I've never been through a HT though so i don't even know if i would D/C or not. My priority if we did this regularly is passing MW 20 and raising money for chaos equips.

So is the infernal bloody glitch gone then? I'm also looking to solo HT, but every time I've tried to enter the sign up screws me over.

So is the infernal bloody glitch gone then? I'm also looking to solo HT, but every time I've tried to enter the sign up screws me over.

it is not

Something like this I guess:
[video=youtube;mVI8NFZcq9c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVI8NFZcq9c[/video]

You can see him going for the arms at around 6:00 and a pretty good demonstration of the annoyance they promise.

Granted, it's pre-BB so not really relevant. I could be exaggerating the situation, since it IS possible to attack the arms while under their constant Seduce streak (when they use MP drain and what-not). If you have enough range, I guess it's the way to go.