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PSP2 CONFIRMED!!(?)
#21
Looks like this generation of handhelds is all about rehashes.
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#22
Sarah Wrote:Wow, not a single interesting new game mentioned. Not off to a good start, PSP2

I thought this was obvious by now? Sony ALWAYS starts off slow, but picks up speed as time goes on. Remember the similarity of the PS3?

Quote:I also don't understand why Sony is interested in creating a portable PS3 when the PS3 is not doing so well. If this fails then they're screwed. If it's successful then the PS3 might as well just be a paperweight.

This isn't 2006, last I checked...

Quote:They still haven't learned from the PSPgo, huh?

Lack of UMD is sadface Frown
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#23
Dark Link Wrote:Lack of UMD is sadface Frown

My thoughts exactly. If they have some way of having old games on there (ex. KH:BBS) then I'll probably pick it up. If it has no way of doing so, then... nothx.
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#24
[Image: ngp_b_image_1__2_.jpg]
[Image: ngp_b_image_4.jpg]

That's hot.
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#25
I wouldb't be surprised if it had backwards-compatibility for PSP games [UMDs]. In regards to PS2s, that's what happened back then. Some games were backwards-compatible, and honestly, if they didn't make it like that, they might lose a lot in sales. Anyone remember GBA2GBSP? Yeah, I'm hoping for something similar.

I really dislike how it's just a rehash of the PSP with slightly added contents (lol @ stick to the right), such as the touchscreen, etc. But until there's more information on it, it's kinda stupid to be under assumptions on how sh`it a system is going to be. The back of the system is pretty interesting, I like the curve they have around there, it might be a lot easier to hold onto the system (imo).
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#26
The system uses flash card memory stuff for games, similar to the 3/DS, so its sad and doubtful for backward comparability with UMD discs, but the software should be backwards compatible.

And I actually have to agree with Sarah, if this doesnt get some original games on it, its gonna be slow selling. But from what I was reading about porting over PS3 games, it should be easy to find some games once developers pick it up more.

Wow, all I have to say about the video in this link.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/27/video-...-touch-pa/
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#27
Sarah Wrote:All of those are ports of console games and Killzone is terrible. Even then, none of those are interesting enough to sell the system. I also don't understand why Sony is interested in creating a portable PS3 when the PS3 is not doing so well. If this fails then they're screwed. If it's successful then the PS3 might as well just be a paperweight.

They aren't necessarily ports. (Though the MGS4 video was).
2011 is Sony's year.
>This.
>Killzone 3. (No matter how much you hate it, it's one of the biggest Sont's franchises)
>Little Big Planet 2. (GOTY!!!! [nominee at least])
>Uncharted 3. (LBP2's rival for GOTY)
>Great support from VALVe with Portal 2, making the PS3 version cross-platform multiplayer with PC and Mac, adding Steamworks tools for updates and other things, and adding a FREE downloadable PC copy with it.
>Mass Effect 2 and 3. (Though they're also in the 360, them coming to PS3 is great)
>Team ICO Collection. (Yeah, remakes, but they're awesome)
>The Last Guardian. (Hopefully it comes this year)
>inFAMOUS 2. (GOTY nominee too for sure)
>Resistance 3.

Microsoft only has Gears of Wars 3. (Which I don't like)

Though Nintendo's year is also interesting! Bad thing it's almost everything 3DS-related. Wii needs more love. Sad

And yeah, no UMD is baaad. I don't like me some downloadable games. Too much waiting time, takes spaces in the card, etc. D: Until there is invented a memory stick with infinite size, and the downloads for a big game take no more than 30 minutes, please stick to disc media.

Sn1perJohnE Wrote:Wow, all I have to say about the video in this link.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/27/video-...-touch-pa/

Whooo!! That looks fun.
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#28
yoosergio Wrote:Wii needs more love. Sad

The wii always needs love. I just find it disheartening that they'll release a couple amount of good / decent games every quarter and the rest is plagued with garbage.
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#29
Great support later is not what's needed, though. It needs good launch titles and then a steady stream of decent releases from there. That's part of why the DS is so successful. The other issue is that once again they've focused on graphics when it's not a necessity for handhelds. Graphic requirements really cut down on the quality of gameplay most of the time, as we see with most next gen games. And if a machine can display really good graphics then that's what people expect, regardless of whether or not it's needed. I would say good graphics are actually more of a negative than a positive.

That backpanel touch screen is such a ridiculous gimmick. I'm not going to poke the back of my NGP with my finger while holding it with one hand hoping to hit the right spot while not dropping it. Especially if it's the same weight as the first PSP, which is ridiculously heavy.

I've been a sony fangirl since the PS1 and want to see them be successful more than anything but as it is realistically, this isn't going to do it. You can rationalize what may or may not happen any way you want, but given what we've seen currently, especially in comparison to the 3DS, this is going to be a flop, at least for a while.
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#30
Sarah Wrote:The other issue is that once again they've focused on graphics when it's not a necessity for handhelds. Graphic requirements really cut down on the quality of gameplay most of the time, as we see with most next gen games. And if a machine can display really good graphics then that's what people expect, regardless of whether or not it's needed. I would say good graphics are actually more of a negative than a positive.

That backpanel touch screen is such a ridiculous gimmick. I'm not going to poke the back of my NGP with my finger while holding it with one hand hoping to hit the right spot while not dropping it. Especially if it's the same weight as the first PSP, which is ridiculously heavy.

I agree with you on graphics. The "necessity" of some of today gamers and developers to make a game with good graphics just take out the quality of them, but it's not always like that. Uncharted 2, for example has one of the most impressive graphics on a console, and it's a hell of a great game!

On the thing of the rear touch panel, just grab a controller like you would normally do. At the back of the controller you have your middle fingers. Use them to touch the back panel. Ta-da!
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#31
You guys are implying as if the PSP had lots of good games in the first place.


If you take out anything made by Square Enix, the PSP was more or less a dumping ground for bad games and PS2 ports.

IMO, they should just stop trying so hard to one-up Nintendo in the hand-held market and just stick to what they're good at - consoles.
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#32
Sarah Wrote:Great support later is not what's needed, though. It needs good launch titles and then a steady stream of decent releases from there. That's part of why the DS is so successful. The other issue is that once again they've focused on graphics when it's not a necessity for handhelds. Graphic requirements really cut down on the quality of gameplay most of the time, as we see with most next gen games. And if a machine can display really good graphics then that's what people expect, regardless of whether or not it's needed. I would say good graphics are actually more of a negative than a positive.

That backpanel touch screen is such a ridiculous gimmick. I'm not going to poke the back of my NGP with my finger while holding it with one hand hoping to hit the right spot while not dropping it. Especially if it's the same weight as the first PSP, which is ridiculously heavy.

I've been a sony fangirl since the PS1 and want to see them be successful more than anything but as it is realistically, this isn't going to do it. You can rationalize what may or may not happen any way you want, but given what we've seen currently, especially in comparison to the 3DS, this is going to be a flop, at least for a while.

I actually despise DS and 3DS graphics, they look so outdated. I want more quality in my games, even if I don't care about graphics that much. Pseudo 3D in most DS games was a huge turnoff to me.

The backpanel solves every problem you may have had with emulating L2 and R2 triggers, since NGP/PSP2 is meant to have compatibility with PSX/PS2 and PSP.

By the way Uncharted is a new game and so is Resistance.

Wow a lot of hate in this thread mainly. The PSP is my first console since the PSX and I had so much fun with it you wouldn't even know. If they did so terrible in the handheld market my guess is that they would've never even tried to make a successor to the PSP.

I'm already saving for this.

The design looks sick too. It's even light and almost the same dimensions as the PSP 3000.
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#33
Look at this ridiculousness.

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductD...homeflash1
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#34
Zelkova Wrote:Look at this ridiculousness.

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductD...homeflash1

It's just a placeholder.

@Rob: Yes, they'd make a successor regardless of the PSP sales because it needs to be done to stay relevant. If at first you don't succeed...
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#35
Zelkova Wrote:Look at this ridiculousness.

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductD...homeflash1

I lawld hard at that.

SCEE CEO or someone there said that it would be comparable in price to the 3DS, and that it would also sell at launch for profit. That tells me the price will most likely be around 250~300. Also of note, him or someone else i read said that this would be 1 generation ahead of the next generation of smartphones in terms of capabilities (ie, iPhone 5). That should be believable, seeing as there is a quadcore processor in this sucker.
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#36
Rob Wrote:I actually despise DS and 3DS graphics, they look so outdated. I want more quality in my games, even if I don't care about graphics that much. Pseudo 3D in most DS games was a huge turnoff to me.

Wat?

Graphics or not, the DS has the best handheld library of games ever.
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#37
Mark Wrote:Wat?

Graphics or not, the DS has the best handheld library of games ever.

This is true if you consider only the games meant to be played on it; Rob hacked his PSP and plays games from various generations of consoles, giving it a better library. Unfortunately, you can't claim a hacked system as better because it's not a feature it's an exploit. The actual PSP library is weak as hell.
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#38
Sarah Wrote:It's just a placeholder.

@Rob: Yes, they'd make a successor regardless of the PSP sales because it needs to be done to stay relevant. If at first you don't succeed...

I know, but if you look at hardware and soft sales worldwide you have:

> Nintendo DS/DSi/DSiXL
> Sony PSP
> Nintendo Wii
> PS3
> XBOX 360

The PSP didn't do bad at all, seeing that Nintendo was the only competitor in the pocket console market since the death of the Lynx in the early 90s.

Mark Wrote:Wat?

Graphics or not, the DS has the best handheld library of games ever.

I'm not arguing about the game library, I know the DS's one is HUGE, but I question the quality of that vastness (I do recognize the number of good games on the DS), I was questioning the graphics of both the DS and 3DS. The graphics look like a neo N64 and it's an unquestionable truth. Nowadays you'd expect more than that. The 3D looks sick, but I'm not really into 3D actually.

I smell a great competition.

By the way, there are 3G models and non-3G models.

Sarah Wrote:This is true if you consider only the games meant to be played on it; Rob hacked his PSP and plays games from various generations of consoles, giving it a better library. Unfortunately, you can't claim a hacked system as better because it's not a feature it's an exploit. The actual PSP library is weak as hell.

Apart from that, I enjoyed quite a bunch of games from the PSP library itself, it counts that I have a huge taste in games. It also has to do with hacking it though, because I've never had problems getting any game I wanted to try and discover if it was a good game or not.
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#39
I wonder if it will fail like the first PSP.
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#40
Khoi Wrote:MONSTER HUNTER PORTABLE 3RD HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG-

Now port over a couple Tales games, make yet another Persona game (but for the PSP2), and I'm set.

The real games are on the PS2, PSP is for nubs who have a life outside of their room. Rolleyes
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