Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread

Kaj, for #1 and #2 can I assume that the enemy team is generally stupid and also doesn't use wards?
For #3...it fully depends on what Morde's first item is, you know. >_>

We're usually not told if and when they use wards, why think that now?

I'm aware of that. Did you know I also didn't tell you the team rosters? Use your imagination.

Cho mid, Mundo solo top, ashe and morg duo bottom lane. Cho should be mid since he is nearly un-gankable as a mid, and his knockup/silence helps with xin's ganking mid alot more. If you send ashe mid then she will be cc'ed out of existance by the other team.
Mundo is the other viable solo for top because his regeneration makes for never having to leave lane until after laning is done, and he can last hit with cleaver if he gets kited alot.

I knew Mundo goes where he pleases, but a reality schism he ain't.

3.) Both teams have decided to take two solo laners, 1 duo lane, and 1 jungler setup. You are blue team's Mordekaiser taking top solo lane vs. Irelia. 7 minutes go by, and there has been no interaction in top lane from any other teammates on either side. The trading of attacks result in an injured Irelia being pushed back to her turret while you are left severely hurting, so you decide to recall for the first time. Taking a look at the shop's various wares, you realize that you have amassed approximately 1126 gold. What should you buy? (Even though the game largely shows you whole numbers, they're all actually decimal values.)

Get my recipe items for merc treads and some wards+hp pots. You will want merc treads asap soloing against irelia especially if the person is good at using their health levels to keep you stunned. You need wards to ward your river bush so that you won't get ganked.

Part 2: Choices continued...

4.) As blue team's Malphite, you and Anivia are in bottom lane causing lots of havoc on purple team's Tristana and Garen. In the exchange of harasses, everyone but you is left with approximately 50% HP and more or less the same amount of MP, and you managed to push up to their tower and keep it pushed. Both you and Anivia are level 9 while Tristana and Garen are level 8. While Anivia's amazing attack range lets her take pot shots at the tower, you are left twiddling your thumbs for something better to do, when suddenly you notice that middle lane's purple champion is missing. What should you do?

kkz that's all for now! Original post has been edited.

Clearly you ping once in the river, anivia will start to back up, you then blindly ult into the bush in the river, stunning the enemy mid who was setting up a gank, anivia is in position to wall, you slow with q, anivia has dropped her ult and her stun is about to land. Enemy mid lane is dead but garen and tristana have moved into position and are about to go all out on anivia. Anivia takes a beating and is now egged, stupidly instead of switching to attack you, as you are sitting there smacking them, they sit and attack the defense buffed egg as your warwick comes out of the jungle with red buff and ults tristana. Warwick's ult and a swipe with q are enough to finish off trist, you land a q on the stunned and confused garen, this lets warwick catch up and auto attack garen who gets slowed by red buff. Anivia has just come out of here egg and walls off garen's escape insuring his death.

Clearly you ping once in the river, anivia will start to back up, you then blindly ult into the bush in the river, stunning the enemy mid who was setting up a gank, anivia is in position to wall, you slow with q, anivia has dropped her ult and her stun is about to land. Enemy mid lane is dead but garen and tristana have moved into position and are about to go all out on anivia. Anivia takes a beating and is now egged, stupidly instead of switching to attack you, as you are sitting there smacking them, they sit and attack the defense buffed egg as your warwick comes out of the jungle with red buff and ults tristana. Warwick's ult and a swipe with q are enough to finish off trist, you land a q on the stunned and confused garen, this lets warwick catch up and auto attack garen who gets slowed by red buff. Anivia has just come out of here egg and walls off garen's escape insuring his death.

But then Fiddlesticks pops out of the jungle with his ult, laughing with a menacing CAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAWCAW and proceeds to score a triple kill.

Wow. Just. Wow.


The moves being described are okay, but the situation you need to KISS.

Also, Anivia's egg still gives negative defense at that level.

kiss?

kiss!

ah gotcha. Yeah if i was being serious I would have said right click to your turret, ping the river and then type to anivia to make sure she understands. Don't completely leave her though, make sure you are still able to use your slow or ult to keep her alive. And assuming she has her egg up, should be able to escape.



EDIT: oh anyone want to play a game in a bit? Gonna be back from class in 20 minutes or so.

Played my first game with Kat in such a long, long time with Birdie. We failed. I lag deathed twice and only got one kill, plus I dced for like a minute in the beginning.

Just had another crappy game. In an attempt to redeem myself I partied with Birdie yet again, itching to destroy with Katarina and no lag ( I moved my laptop to a better location to play). So with my uber-connection in my new spot, I immediately picked Katarina when I entered so I wouldn't have to be tank.

Then 3 of the other idiots locked in onto melee carries, and one of them had the nerve to say "Someone be tank." Being the kind and good-souled person I am, I switched to Rammus while Birdie said "I hate people that do that."

Only problem is, I never played Rammus in my entire life. Ever. I also didn't have much experience with tanks as the only other tank I played was Cho'Gath, and I'm only half-decent with him.

Needless to say, we got slaughtered, although much blame wasn't really placed on me even though I had the most deaths. The Lux and Pantheon kept on arguing with each other on skill builds and such and eventually one of them left.

tl;dr Cait is my favorite champion as she can safely snipe from the back of the group despite being squishy, and she can finish off fleeing enemies extremely easily.

Wasn't much we could do really, both games we played our teammates feed a enemy carry early, in the second game 3 carries >.>, and they just tore us apart. The only thing i would say is you played a bit overaggressive but thats something you learn once you figure out how strong your champ is compared to the ones you are laning against. Also a page or so back are some builds listed for rammus, if you play him again check those out. Your build wasn't nearly as bad as our teammates were trying to make it seem, but it wasn't quite ideal either. Once again, wouldn't have been such an issue if our team wasn't feeding so much.

On the other hand, placed my first game as corki. Used my friends account since he owns him. Was pretty fun, was in a duo lane so wasn't as strong as a corki might normally be, but i felt pretty effective once i got tri force, even more so with IE.







EDIT: ok wow, was just reading my email and i got an email that claimed to be from riot saying Come back to LoL here is a free panth skin.(Ugh not to be greedy or anything but why panth!?!?, im sooooo bad with him lol) So im looking at this thinking it has to be a scam trying to get my account info, but why the heck would you steal a LoL account, can't really do anything with it other than play games. But they gave a code so its like what the heck, nothing can happen from entering a fake code into the shop. So i entered it and it worked. O.O Really shocked that it worked. The email that sent it was kinda odd and there were a few errors in the email as well. And i have been playing LoL recently on that account so who knows.

Do you play with flash? Ashe without flash or ghost = Fail
Also, starting with boots is stupid, sorry but starting with dorans blade is GREAT, it improves your ability to survive, how long you can lane for and your gold farm.
On carries such at MF and ashe getting 2-3 Doran's items is good, it's close to no gold to you since you should be last-hitting and farming like crazy, normally you should have enough for a BF sword when you return the first time from pure minion farming, champion ganks and kills should net you extra items, but sorry starting with boots is fail, it's been like that since dota.

of course i take flash. also, please refrain from ignorant remarks such as the bolded because they only detract from your perceived intelligence. learn how to play my late game oriented style before commenting on how fail i am and demanding that i switch to an early game strategy.

the dorans blade builds are for people who merely know how to play ranged physical dps and dont necessarily main them. its just safer. but if you know what you can and cant do well, the extra survivability is unnecessary and opens you up to other strategies. i rarely die within the first 10 minutes of a game. after that, the extra survivability is moot because by then you start getting into hard ganks and teamfights -- if youre focused youre dead whether you have 3 dorans blades or a bf sword.

of course i take flash. also, please refrain from ignorant remarks such as the bolded because they only detract from your perceived intelligence. learn how to play my late game oriented style before commenting on how fail i am and demanding that i switch to an early game strategy.

the dorans blade builds are for people who merely know how to play ranged physical dps and dont necessarily main them. its just safer. but if you know what you can and cant do well, the extra survivability is unnecessary and opens you up to other strategies. i rarely die within the first 10 minutes of a game. after that, the extra survivability is moot because by then you start getting into hard ganks and teamfights -- if youre focused youre dead whether you have 3 dorans blades or a bf sword.

Should've written that it's obviously how i see it.
And sorry but i wont stop calling it fails cause that's what i see it as.
Starting with boots is not what you want to do, it shouts "HARASS ME SO I HAVE TO LEAVE THE LANE" to the enemy.
Also if you tried to read i did not judge you in any way shape or form, so how about you stop taking this as if i said you failed? I never said you should change what you did, i never said that you were doing bad.
I said that starting with boots and 3 health pots is B-A-D, it's no good, there are better items to start with. I wont change that statement, i stand by it, we can agree to disagree but you can't change my opinion, been playing MOBA's for too long by now to think boots are ever good to start with.
Also if your enemies are just some-what decent they can harass trough 3 health pots fast.


Also fun that you say
"the dorans blade builds are for people who merely know how to play ranged physical dps and dont necessarily main them."
[sarcasm]Because that TOTALLY explains why people who play at pro level LoL buy Doran, i mean they probably merely know how to play what they pick [/sarcasm]

of course i take flash. also, please refrain from ignorant remarks such as the bolded because they only detract from your perceived intelligence. learn how to play my late game oriented style before commenting on how fail i am and demanding that i switch to an early game strategy.

the dorans blade builds are for people who merely know how to play ranged physical dps and dont necessarily main them. its just safer. but if you know what you can and cant do well, the extra survivability is unnecessary and opens you up to other strategies. i rarely die within the first 10 minutes of a game. after that, the extra survivability is moot because by then you start getting into hard ganks and teamfights -- if youre focused youre dead whether you have 3 dorans blades or a bf sword.

Starting with shoes is only fine on kog'maw, since he doesn't focus on AD.

Starting with doran's blade is ideal no matter what. It's better in every way except movespeed, and movespeed 1 won't do anything special for you at level 1~9 that is really needed.

EDIT: Oh and using boots as a way to avoid death in teamfights is a bad excuse for starting with boots. You get boots regardless of your starting item(s), while you're building your IE (assuming generic ranged carry) or after.

there you go again, instantly attacking a playstyle you obviously dont understand.

there you go again, instantly attacking a playstyle you obviously dont understand.

Not so sure about unleashing, but I know it perfectly well because I used to do it.

Not so sure about unleashing, but I know it perfectly well because I used to do it.

Same here

there you go again, instantly attacking a playstyle you obviously dont understand.

Then instead of attacking us with "you're ignorant, shut up" rebuttals, why don't you show how you play your LoL games? Care to enlighten us?

shall i quote my response to ray? i have actually put thought into my reasoning, and havent just said dorans blades are fail. i will say i dont prefer them because of the dead end, not that they arent popular or viable. since i tend to play for late game, i see 3 dorans blades as 600 vanished gold when other items can provide similar utility and factor in to and end game build.

-you should be aware of your surroundings and your opponents harassment skills enough that 25% extra health wont matter at the beginning of the game
-the extra damage you do while last hitting will accumulate to a push if your opponent doesnt also have a damage item, or you just dont last hit and lose out on gold
-3 hp pots is about the same amount of regen as 4% lifesteal + 1 pot, it really depends on who is better at dodging harassment
-by the time you can get 2-3 blades, the laning phase is nearly over if you werent sent back early from harassment and the blades make you a stronger laner, not a god of positioning. positioning is everything and cant be bought, only learned.


these days, every time i am ganked and killed, it is a situation where my flash is down and the enemy has put every effort into making sure i wont escape. 300 hp will not save me. the kind of ganks where i walk away at 30 hp thanks to a doran blade do not happen any more. i am dead and i know it, doran blades or not, and its due to bad positioning or missed MIAs.

do you guys solo queue often? or usually do premades?
i play 3+ man premades almost exclusively and cant stand solo queue... if i feel like soloing i do ARAM (major issues too, but at least its carefree and adds variety to the champs i play).

EDIT: Oh and using boots as a way to avoid death in teamfights is a bad excuse for starting with boots. You get boots regardless of your starting item(s), while you're building your IE (assuming generic ranged carry) or after.

i never said that. i said i use them as a replacement for ghost when my opponents attempt an early gank, and do not take ghost because of that. in fact, i said i often have trouble escaping when a team fight goes sour. i normally dont have anything but boots2 for move speed and flash has a long cooldown.

I've played in like, four premades. I only solo queue, so I can't rely on my team for any kind of help, I have to make the biggest splash I can in the shortest amount of time so that one of us doesn't get the chance to screw up.

i never said that. i said i use them as a replacement for ghost when my opponents attempt an early gank, and do not take ghost because of that. in fact, i said i often have trouble escaping when a team fight goes sour. i normally dont have anything but boots2 for move speed and flash has a long cooldown.

boots2 + ghost = oshiet?

Also, you must not be very good if you find yourself getting ganked so often that you believe boots are your saving grace. And there you are preaching that "extra 300 HP" isn't going to save your ass. Hell, I could just take your "extra damage" argument and say "don't buy AD items, ever." From recent memory, games are ending before the 40 minute mark, and sometimes not all of us are lvl 18. Just remember that if you have a bad early game, there will be no such thing as a late game.


In response to your question, I do half solo queues, half premades. On occasion, I do 5-man premades of +deliciousness on the weekends.


EDIT: Thread full of win!

SUPER SECRET STRATEGIES!!

...

- If you have used maphacks, sometimes you will see sentient wolves and evil clowns in the jungle. KILL THEM with your whole team, they are dangerous to fight alone but together they give LOADS of XP and gold.

Roaming super creeps! Amazing! I gotta kill one of these.

-you should be aware of your surroundings and your opponents harassment skills enough that 25% extra health wont matter at the beginning of the game
-3 hp pots is about the same amount of regen as 4% lifesteal + 1 pot, it really depends on who is better at dodging harassment

I will have to rebute those bolded statements you made.

I'm a Rammus veteran. I use him almost regularly. You can argue that my point is a special case since he's a ****ing tank, and he can take much more damage than other champs early on. But its not; boots will not cut it. Doran's items get you the most bang for your buck. Really.

I've been there. I used to get boots every time before I went out to my lane. But once I switched over to Doran's Shield, my survival rate improved, and I was able to lane longer. And I could do a bit of harassment on my own without getting cut down too much. All thanks to the +8 armor, +200 HP, and additional HP regen every 5 seconds. And try to not do things that will invite heavy harassment from the other team. >_>

Gets boots later. They're cheap and easy to get. Learn to hold your ground. Don't run away like a p'ussy (no offence). You will lose out on so much if you have to go back so many times.

these days, every time i am ganked and killed, it is a situation where my flash is down and the enemy has put every effort into making sure i wont escape. 300 hp will not save me. the kind of ganks where i walk away at 30 hp thanks to a doran blade do not happn any more. i am dead and i know it, doran blades or not, and its due to bad positioning or missed MIAs.

I hate to be an ass here, but lern2beaware of your surroundings. Even if your own teammates are not calling out MIAs, you also have the responsibility of knowing when its not OK to extend your neck too far. There's no excuses here.