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#21
Greg Wrote:It's not really expensive here. My friend that I work with occassionally asks me if I want to buy any, $10 for regular stuff and $15 for the better stuff, but like cigarettes or anything else, it adds up and how am I supposed to get a turbo with silly things like marijuana ADDING UP

Well, lol, it's just a choice. MAKES SENSE YOU WANT TO GET A TURBO FOR THAT SWEET RX8 YOU GOT THERE

Cyadd Wrote:I wonder sometimes why people take the drugs in the first place. Besides peer pressure, etc. why do them? I myself have never done any at all. Though, if I would, I would go for LSD.

Prejudice. It's like asking why people smoke tobacco or drink alcohol. Just a choice. Trying different states that the human body can reach, etc etc. Peer pressure, escaping and a whole plethora of excuses are mainly the reasons people that already have problems pick something to alleviate them.
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#22
Cyadd Wrote:I wonder sometimes why people take the drugs in the first place. Besides peer pressure, etc. why do them? I myself have never done any at all. Though, if I would, I would go for LSD.

How else am I supposed to watch late night sitcoms with the volume off, and me making up lines for all the characters. Nah but on a more serious tone, I originally smoked weed just to know what it was like, curiosity, I kept smoking cause I kept wanting to try different things while high, and when I found out most of the boring things I do in life become amazing when high, I kind of just kept going with it.
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#23
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Rob Wrote:Prejudice. It's like asking why people smoke tobacco or drink alcohol. Just a choice. Trying different states that the human body can reach, etc etc. Peer pressure, escaping and a whole plethora of excuses are mainly the reasons people that already have problems pick something to alleviate them.

I'm not sure whether or not you are downplaying my choice not to do, so until you response, I'll keep another response tucked away.

Homerowed Wrote:How else am I supposed to watch late night sitcoms with the volume off, and me making up lines for all the characters. Nah but on a more serious tone, I originally smoked weed just to know what it was like, curiosity, I kept smoking cause I kept wanting to try different things while high, and when I found out most of the boring things I do in life become amazing when high, I kind of just kept going with it.

Now, were those things boring before the weed or after the weed?[/COLOR]
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#24
By the way, relevant:

Rob Wrote:I actually took the time to translate this from a blog in spanish, and I think it's the pure truth behind what do you feel like when you're high.

Part 1

I wouldn’t want to encourage people to do drugs. I don’t know what it means but I always looked at it associated to bad stuff, and I don’t want no more trouble. Besides, there’s a lot of teenagers around focused on doing whatever.

I don’t know how the world was 10 years ago, I was just 17 and I just wanted to find out how was this ‘’pineappleing’’ thing. There’s evidence that pot was around everywhere for a while already: Cheech & Chong movies, Grateful Dead’s music, etc. Somehow, I didn’t see this at all and I thought marihuana was just something Americans smoked in high school and that only drug addicts consumed it here. The kind of guys that stab you just to steal your wallet because they want to buy cocaine, melanin or Iced Tea. I don’t know what they consumed because they are such druggies they do anything to get that pomegranate they take into their body.

[…]

Encounter.

The first time I smoked weed I was young. I was in high school. See why I don’t want kids to read? Hey, I wasn’t planning to do it, it just happened. I was walking by my brother’s room where he, my older brother and his girlfriend were smoking. They suddenly tried to cover it, but due to the fact they had a bigger smile than the cat in Alice in Wonderland, it was obvious they were up to something. I really had no idea on what they were doing because I had less knowledge of the streets than America before 1942, but they told me they were smoking and they even offered me some, arguing it’d be better to smoke in a family circle than with any retard out there.

I had no interest on smoking back then and I was kinda scared. We do thousands of things that are “bad” all the time. You can smoke a cigarette, which is legal but is pineappleing killing you and it’s looked down upon. I don’t know anyone that hasn’t downloaded an MP3, and that’s illegal as well.

[…]

When I looked up information about cannabis a couple years ago, I found the same thing I did now: It’s a psychoactive drug that affects the central nervous system altering perception, mood, consciousness and attitude. pineapple that, I want to know how it feels like to be stoned. Logically, I also wanted to know it’s cons and there’s various pages that detail them with more or less enthusiasm.

[…]

Effect one: I’m pineappleing stoned man.

First thing that happens after smoking weed is within the first 5, 10 even 20 minutes. It’s the same thing as always, and there’s always someone that states “Hey, I’m fresh as lettuce”, but suddenly the change can’t be ignored. Almost always it has to do with the last thing you were doing. If you were talking with someone, you realize you’re telling your friend thing you wouldn’t even tell your psychologist in therapy. If you were reading, you realize that you haven’t even read the last 3 pages and you were singing “Funky Town” in your head. If you were laughing, you can’t stop. It doesn’t matter how it happened: you always end up thinking “I’m pineappleed up mang”. It’s like a mini surprise party in your mind. All of a sudden everyone jumps out from behind the couch and you burst into laugh thinking “Oh, you guys, you always catch me off guard.”

Once you realize that for the next 4 hours you won’t be able to handle heavy machinery, the other effects start popping out.

Effect two: Reordering your priorities.

Let’s say that, for example, the “To Do” list of the day consists of:

- Mount the new desk for the compy.
- Ask Joe if I can go hang out.
- Talk to my girlfriend to see what is she doing tonight.
- Take a shower.

After a smoke the order is:

- Get some snacks
- Get something sweet or with a lot of sugar
- Go to sleep with my thumb in my mouth like Prince John in Robin Hood.

I never knew why I saw so many people with black glasses at the mart. I now know it very well.

Effect three: Ravenous hunger for goodies.

For a stoner, a supermarket aisle is like taking a dean from a literature college and making him time travel to the Library of Alexandria. I never stood for so long, and I mean like 6 or 7 minutes, reading the ingredients of every single snack in front of me. Visualizing how the chocolate chips blend with the vanilla dough. Tasting the mousse. Solving in an atomic scale how the different elements combine and how they are going to affect my taste buds… Like in the Schindler’s List, at that moment there’s nothing more important than saving a brand of cookies from that Goodies sector.

After putting all kinds of snacks and dairy products in my basket like I was a squirrel saving for the world’s end, and after picturing myself as the squirrel and wondering why my laugh is still human, I arrive to the cashier. A good moment to talk about another effect.

Effect four: Paranoia.

Nowadays it’s difficult to find someone that hasn’t smoked in his entire life, and even between those who haven’t, almost no one judges it as before. Running into a pothead is as repulsive/funny/indifferent as running into a drunkard, and most of the time you really have to pay attention to notice he’s high. However, when you’re stoned, and the most crucial thing in your life is finding some toasts, you realize than for someone not sharing your vision you’re a retard staring at a bakery like an idiot for 20 minutes.

That shame sometimes turns into paranoia. That’s why when you’re high, you don’t want anyone to notice. This is no easy task though, because, even though your acting all natural, your eyes state you’re more asian than a Japanese in Shinjuku.

Back to the cashier. You start passing him the goodies like nothing’s going on, because there is nothing going on. You separate the dairy products together, cookies according to their coating, you start noticing you’re overreacting, you stop doing what you were doing, you look at the cashier and you suddenly remember you have varicose veins on you eyes, then you start looking somewhere else, it’s 16 bucks 70 cents, do I have change? I think I have, nope, nope I have no change, haha, what are you laughing at idiot, did I say or think that? Crap, I’m already out of the mart! AHHAHAAAHA, MAN THAT TOOK FOREVER.

Effect Five: Times takes forever to pass.

In fact, everything happens the same way it always does. A humming bird flaps its wings the same number of times, you move at the usual speed, and every action has the same duration. But there’s a reason why the stones has that laidback-ness in everything he does. We all can remember how that minute before the bell rang, or that last traffic light, take forever to pass. Well, being high is like a lot of minutes like these.

See how in the soap operas they always say “I wish this moment lasted forever”? A couple moments later they are smoking a joint.

This is as positive as it is negative. Every stoner has experienced this: you’re with a couple of friends, you have already ordered a pizza and you have to go receive it at the apartment’s door, and when you come back someone yells at you “MANG YOU LEFT LIKE AN HOUR AGO”, and then you tell him “I never made it to the front door. I didn’t find the elevator” and everyone bursts into laughter. I bet only 15 seconds passed, but everyone inside was calling the cops because you weren’t coming back.

Worst part is when you actually go down to pick it up. I’ve grown old inside elevators. Go to the entrance, open the door, say hi to the delivery boy, wait until he grabs the money, lends you the pizzas, gives you the change, and you close the door, is such a complex action scheme that after you finish you feel tired and proud. It’s like finishing your career and taking your time to stare all the time and effort you put in that goal. Bah, I’m exaggerating; finishing your career isn’t as good as that.

And you have the trip back to the apartment on the elevator left. You feel like Santa Claus. After that crusade, when you finally arrive to the apartment and some idiot yells at you (again) “MANG YOU LEFT LIKE AN HOUR AGO”, but you can’t help but reply “I think longer”. The important thing is that the pizza is there and after the first bite you want to kiss the cook.
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#25
Doubleposting because the previous post has nothing to do with this.

Cyadd Wrote:I'm not sure whether or not you are downplaying my choice not to do, so until you response, I'll keep another response tucked away.

No, I'm not downplaying your choice not to. I respect it a lot. I just say that arguing people just take drugs because they want to escape from reality, they suffer from peer pressure and all those excuses we've all heard from newspapers, TV and other sources; are just prejudices. I ''COULD'' grant some of that if we're just talking about hard drugs (cocaine and above).
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#26
I'll be perfectly honest when I say weed is overrated. At least for me.

Smoked a glass on glass, I was giggly for an hour or two, then it stopped. It wasn't anything special; I'd probably rank it among one of the things I'd do when there's nothing else to do.
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#27
Cyadd Wrote:[COLOR="Red"]
Now, were those things boring before the weed or after the weed?[/COLOR]

Boring before I smoke weed, they have been constants of boredom in my life, whenever I smoke weed they are no longer boring, its hard to be high and bored. I mean you could literally watch infomercials for like 3 hours while baked, and you'd have fun. As soon as the high is over, they go back to being boring.
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#28
Have yet to observe/meet a regular drug (by drug i mean other than the legal stuff) user IRL that wasn't an over-impulsive jerkwad that didn't hesitate to tell me how stupid I am for choosing not to get high with them and how I've been brainwashed by whatever authority to think they are bad and how I don't know REAL FUN until you've gotten high. People online say that there are nice drug users out there IRL who don't push it in your face constantly, but I have yet to observe/meet one so far. Where are you hiding? Sad

As for alcohol, people here can't seem to understand that I don't want to chuck that crap down my throat just for what is apparently the universal definition of "fun" aka being loud and annoying with some other intoxicated people, doing tons of stupid stuff you'll regret later (or won't even remember, "But if you don't remember it it means you had a REAL GOOD TIME"...No, the Hangover was a terrible movie.) and feeling horrendous the day after. FUNNY S'HIT RITE

I'd feel weak as hell if I had been reduced to taking whatever crutch narcotic just to remain stable and content, as if I couldn't deal with my problems without it. I hate feeling weak.

Delicae Wrote:[COLOR="Magenta"]I don't like not being in control. I start to panic.
I like being in control. /OCD
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Also this.

tl;dr narcotics are a waste of time as far as i'm concerned, no i'm not trying to tell anyone it's wrong even though in my opinion there are better ways to waste your time/money.
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#29
Beg Wrote:Have yet to observe/meet a regular drug (by drug i mean other than the legal stuff) user IRL that wasn't an over-impulsive jerkwad that didn't hesitate to tell me how stupid I am for choosing not to get high with them and how I've been brainwashed by whatever authority to think they are bad and how I don't know REAL FUN until you've gotten high. People online say that there are nice drug users out there IRL who don't push it in your face constantly, but I have yet to observe/meet one so far. Where are you hiding? Sad

As for alcohol, people here can't seem to understand that I don't want to chuck that crap down my throat just for what is apparently the universal definition of "fun" aka being loud and annoying with some other intoxicated people, doing tons of stupid stuff you'll regret later (or won't even remember, "But if you don't remember it it means you had a REAL GOOD TIME"...No, the Hangover was a terrible movie.) and feeling horrendous the day after. FUNNY S'HIT RITE

I'd feel weak as hell if I had been reduced to taking whatever crutch narcotic just to remain stable and content, as if I couldn't deal with my problems without it. I hate feeling weak.


Also this.

tl;dr narcotics are a waste of time as far as i'm concerned, no i'm not trying to tell anyone it's wrong even though in my opinion there are better ways to waste your time/money.

We should meet. I'm tempted to say something about you not reading the first post, etc etc, but let's just have fun this time Smile
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#30
Edit: Ignore this post.
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#31
Sorry for the late answer, but I think weed releaves pain on crohn's disease patients because it is an inflammatory disease and weed is anti imflamatory. It also actually gives me appetite since mine is close to none.

There's actually allot of research on it if you look it up(hence why I started using weed) and people are getting more and more often accepted to get medicinal marijuana to treat their crohn's disease.

As for me I have to get it illegally because I'm still a minor and I'd need my parent's consent and that will never happen lol.

P.S. I'm actually posting high right now on some really good stuff that I got from my neighbor. I actually tried just a little to test it and I got pretty baked considering I only took one medium hit. Smile
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#32
I've got the same people in my area as Beg has. Though my friends respect my choise not to drink alcohol.

Personally I'm not against drugs. Just as long as you don't smoke a cig near me (If that counts as drugs) I'm fine with it.
The only type of drug I wanted to do at some point are magic mushrooms, though the duration made me reconcider it. Government also banned them in the meanwhile, so meh.

The reason I don't do drugs is that I don't feel like it adds anything. Sure it can be fun, but I don't find the concequences worth it.
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#33
I've smoked weed, drank excessively, snorted coke, xanax and ritalin. I'm too old to be doing that crap anymore. I did smoke weed and drink EXCESSIVELY over the weekend for my birthday. Other than that, drugs don't do anything for me
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#34
Lol, you finally post threads after so long eh. I posted a thread like this a long time ago, but that's probably the only you're talking about.

Cyadd Wrote:Now, were those things boring before the weed or after the weed?

It's like i told a friend of ours (me and the TS) who doesn't smoke: Smoking weed (not the act but the sensation) is like experiencing everything you've done already for the first time again. It makes everything more fun. (except getting pulled over) It's not that the things you were doing before were boring, but they are pretty boring in comparison to doing it high though it depends entirely on what exactly you're talking about.
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#35
I hate alcohol, it's a taste you have to acquire, beer specifically. I have a huge sweet tooth, although I know there alcoholic beverages for that, but people consider that gay so, whatev's.

Smoking, although I accept it, not something I would do. Though with all the second hand smoke I inhale I may start. Weed, it's something I don't want I guess. I don't know, It's not like I'm afraid of it, or the consequences, it's just something I never took interest or curiosity into.
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#36
Beg Wrote:Have yet to observe/meet a regular drug (by drug i mean other than the legal stuff) user IRL that wasn't an over-impulsive jerkwad that didn't hesitate to tell me how stupid I am for choosing not to get high with them and how I've been brainwashed by whatever authority to think they are bad and how I don't know REAL FUN until you've gotten high. People online say that there are nice drug users out there IRL who don't push it in your face constantly, but I have yet to observe/meet one so far. Where are you hiding? Sad

As for alcohol, people here can't seem to understand that I don't want to chuck that crap down my throat just for what is apparently the universal definition of "fun" aka being loud and annoying with some other intoxicated people, doing tons of stupid stuff you'll regret later (or won't even remember, "But if you don't remember it it means you had a REAL GOOD TIME"...No, the Hangover was a terrible movie.) and feeling horrendous the day after. FUNNY S'HIT RITE

I'd feel weak as hell if I had been reduced to taking whatever crutch narcotic just to remain stable and content, as if I couldn't deal with my problems without it. I hate feeling weak.


Also this.

tl;dr narcotics are a waste of time as far as i'm concerned, no i'm not trying to tell anyone it's wrong even though in my opinion there are better ways to waste your time/money.

I have met some druggies that don't shove it in my face or anyone I'm around.
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#37
Well, I'll admit what I've done...

Cannabis - Tried it twice. Didn't really affect me as the stereotypical side effects present. Did get very hungry and hit up a All You Can Eat Buffet place but other than that, I don't care for it personally, but I don't see how it's as bad as people claim it is at times. Maybe it affects everyone differently like other drugs do. I do support it's usage for medical research and it's cousin Hemp for Industrial usage in bio/renewable-product production.

Opiates - I did have a bout with opiate drugs like Vicodine. I will admit it's a good pain killer and it is very effective and works fast, and it did take a while to ween myself back off it to use normal Ibuprofen after some tooth extractions.

Alcohol - I drink, lightly. I'm no guzzler. I do enjoy wines, some liquors, and the occasional beer like a Sam Adams.

The rest... wouldn't touch em. Cigarette smoke stinks to Hell and back. Rest just seem way too dangerous and easy to misuse.
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#38
Interesting weekend so far, went to my friend's frat yesterday for a poker tournament while I was high. Got my ass kicked early (probably came in like 26th place out of 45 people), then went up stairs saw a few brothers playing pokemon stadium, and decided to show them how it's done. Turns out my team was really electric weak and a Zapdos plowed through my team. After that was said and done, I left the frat and went to my friends apartment. We had something like six people there, we smoked around two blunts and took some hits out of my friend's 2.5 foot bong, and then proceeded to destroy in Halo, and played some more poker. It was an interesting day, we almost smoked enough to make that night epic weed night part 2.5, but we voted that down.
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#39
I hit that caffeine frequently. Usually in the early mornings.

What?
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#40
It's funny because we don't use bongs here. We just smoke joints.

Last night was pretty awesome. Having sex while high is a pretty nice experience.
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