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KajitiSouls Wrote:!!!

I need to verify whether I can actually see Pantheon's mandrop proof positive before I actually wander out into ranked games. I have never seen a Pantheon since the patch.

Get on and we'll test it in a custom.
Has anyone ever played denyplank? Sounds hilarious on paper when combined with the "bankplank" gambit.
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Has anyone ever played denyplank? Sounds hilarious on paper when combined with the "bankplank" gambit.

He's alright. But there are certain characters that can counter him in a lane like kassadin.

Feel No Fear is one of the top ranked players and he mains gangplank. He's played over 250 games with him in ranked and only played about 30 games total with his other top 2 mostly used champs.

He makes Gangplank, a normally laughed-at champion look OP.
Just talked to Spiegelmann on LoL, and he tells me noobs think that Rammus is too OP. [URL="http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=469799"]And there's QQing on the LoL forums over it.
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To those noobs: Really? Just because you got facial'd with Powerball and Taunt? Grow some bawls and man up. >_>
I guess I'm a noob then. I think jungling Rammus is slightly OP for reasons I have stated earlier in the thread.

Riot better fix these d/c issues and crashes soon o.O It's preventing me from accurately assessing Irelia's true potentials in these games. Played a 6/1/6 game where our Galio had to reboot, and their Sion went AWOL or something after killing their golem.

@Spiegelmann, I forgot that Pantheon is in the champ rotation. Normally I would accept your offer, but my mom, being the worry wort that she is, is trying to shut down my gaming during the weekdays. However, I do have access to two computers that can play LoL, so I'll give you an answer as to whether I can play ranked safely sometime soon.
KajitiSouls Wrote:I guess I'm a noob then. I think jungling Rammus is slightly OP for reasons I have stated earlier in the thread.

How and why? :f6:

(My specific rant was regarding how people think Rammus is OP because of his Taunt. -points to link- Rolleyes )

And I wonder why your mom is still going Asian on you still. Rolleyes
How and why?

The forum QQ is related to what I believe are the issues with Rammus. Now I'm not saying he needs a rework or anything, just that he's a bit more powerful than he should be.

KajitiSouls Wrote:I think it's more appropriate to nerf his Powerball speed and maybe his Defensive Ball Curl damage. Other than that, I'm fine with Rammus.

I'm still undecided about the DBC damage. But it's either the Powerball that needs to slow down (he's capable of ganking you even if you're not past the river line or even in the river), or the Taunt duration should go down slightly (in the games I play, Rammus can usually get away with taunting you, whereas Fiddlesticks' 3.5s Fear entails more risk for him due to how squishy and slow he is).
KajitiSouls Wrote:I'm still undecided about the DBC damage. But it's either the Powerball that needs to slow down (he's capable of ganking you even if you're not past the river line or even in the river), or the Taunt duration should go down slightly (in the games I play, Rammus can usually get away with taunting you, whereas Fiddlesticks' 3.5s Fear entails more risk for him due to how squishy and slow he is).

Are you trying to say that his Taunt duration is too long that people could kill the Taunted enemy while he/she is whacking away at Rammus?

My arguments for Rammus staying the way he is: His Taunt range is very small, and he basically has to go within melee range to Taunt, which will inevitably result in him taking tons of damage for his team. Also, Taunt is only effective when its combined with other Rammus skills (Powerball, Curl, and Tremors), as well as having teammates within close proximity to help out.
What an awesome fight. I honored the fact that I am a NUKE!

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The hell solarboy? Manamune? Oh wow xD

Sorry, had to say that before >Pineapple does. In the future you want to get Archangel Staff, which gives you the fatass mana pool you probably wanted, and it makes your spells hurt a lot more.

WillDaSnail Wrote:Are you trying to say that his Taunt duration is too long that people could kill the Taunted enemy while he/she is whacking away at Rammus?

My arguments for Rammus staying the way he is: His Taunt range is very small, and he basically has to go within melee range to Taunt, which will inevitably result in him taking tons of damage for his team. Also, Taunt is only effective when its combined with other Rammus skills (Powerball, Curl, and Tremors), as well as having teammates within close proximity to help out.

3.5 seconds of not doing anything but attacking is a pretty beefy CC (certain exceptions apply, such as an ulting Master Yi, rofl). Before you think about just trying to pile a bunch of damage on the guy, think about what happens when your teammates arrive to... chain CC the poor bloke so you can pile even more damage... and even more CC... and even more damage... and even more CC... and in the meantime the guy's Mercury Treads is crying because it's not able to save him.

Before his serious defense item fetishes in late game, Rammus himself doesn't contribute too much damage outside of his ultimate. Of course it's his teammates's jobs to lay the smackdown on the guy he initiates on. It's a team game.
Just had my first match using Fiddlesticks, and probably my best match so far.
 Spoiler

I wasn't sure of what items to get as a mage, so I had that, but I'm sure it could've been better.
Darkmaniak Wrote:Just had my first match using Fiddlesticks, and probably my best match so far.
 Spoiler

I wasn't sure of what items to get as a mage, so I had that, but I'm sure it could've been better.

Since Fiddles is a caster, the majority of your items should be AP. I don't see Deathcap on you; it will make your spells a whole lot deadlier. It gives +155 AP plus 30% of your total AP.

I see you have Mejai's Soulstealer. I would not get that unless you know how to hoard tons of assists/kills. You did well in that game, but the problem is can you keep consistent results and stack up Mejai's to max every time?

Consider getting 3-4 AP items (RoA, Rylai Crystal Scepter, Deathcap, etc), Shoes (Mercury Treads or something), and Banshee Veil (or a piece of armor for PR?)
WillDaSnail Wrote:Consider getting 3-4 AP items (RoA, Rylai Crystal Scepter, Deathcap, etc), Shoes (Mercury Treads or something), and Banshee Veil (or a piece of armor for PR?)

In general, I give TheManu the thumbsup for itemization well-done.

Mercury Treads is something he can get away with not using in this game. I doubt that players at his level are competent enough to handle their team's only two hard CCs (Pantheon's Aegis of Zeonia and Ashe's ultimate Enchanted Crystal Arrow) that would seriously put a dent in Fiddlesticks, and even if they were, his teammates have plenty more CCs to mess with them. Same argument with Banshee's Veil, unless Ashe is uber god with her ult. There's not a whole lot of crippling magic damage from the other team, so a single generic MR item would be fine (Abyssal Scepter fits the bill) vs. Akali and maybe MF.
Just played my first game as Rammus... I gotta agree, he feels slightly OP. The supposed Taunt CD change never actually happened - it's still 9 seconds.

I'm being one of those terrible, evil nubs that tries out new champions in normal games. The only ones I did decently in were as Rammus and Panth. Sad
Phoenix Wright Wrote:Just played my first game as Rammus... I gotta agree, he feels slightly OP. The supposed Taunt CD change never actually happened - it's still 9 seconds.

I'm being one of those terrible, evil nubs that tries out new champions in normal games. The only ones I did decently in were as Rammus and Panth. Sad

SS of your results or it didn't happen. Rolleyes
WillDaSnail Wrote:SS of your results or it didn't happen. Rolleyes

Just go look at my recent matches. 2/5/21.
Phoenix Wright Wrote:Just go look at my recent matches. 2/5/21.

-is not on LoL atm-

I would say your arguement is fully true if you had a good # of kills alongside your high # of assists. But I will accept the fact you racked up tons of assists while whacking away with Rammus. Rolleyes

 If you really want to see OP Rammus...
WillDaSnail Wrote:-is not on LoL atm-

I would say your arguement is fully true if you had a good # of kills alongside your high # of assists. But I will accept the fact you racked up tons of assists. Rolleyes

If you really want to see OP Rammus...
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I tried to let my teammates get the kills instead of taking them for myself. I'd rather them go to someone like Koggles or Malzahar.

EDIT: I see tons of silly things in that picture.

Lux with Hourglass
Jax with PD
Sivir with on-hit effect items
Vlad with Warmogs
Teemo not having Bloodrazor
Teemo having Trinity Force
Eve with both Triforce and Lichbane
Eve with Starks
I was gonna say thornmail would wreck pomegranate on the team Dark played against. So much AD.
Phoenix Wright Wrote:EDIT: I see tons of silly things in that picture.

Lux with Hourglass
Jax with PD
Sivir with on-hit effect items
Vlad with Warmogs
Teemo not having Bloodrazor
Teemo having Trinity Force
Eve with both Triforce and Lichbane
Eve with Starks <--- LOLWAT YOU JUST RUINED YOUR INVISIBILITY CAPABILITY

Bolded for truth. And you beat Kaj to it, lol. xD


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