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2011-01-17, 04:06 PM
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What are your opinions on Gay Marriage?
With the "recent" repeal on DADT do you think that makes us one step closer to allowing gay marriage?
Do you personally think Gay Marriage should be approved or disapproved? Why?
Please Note: There are such things as non-religious marriages.
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I am all for it. If gay people want to enjoy life together with all the bells, whistles, tassels, and weights, they have every right to them I feel.
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Yeah, sure. Let them spend the rest of their lives in the misery that is marriage. Why shouldn't they have that right?
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Coming from a former religious Catholic, denying people the right to love another human being who loves them back, no matter what sex, is stupid. If they're of legal age, what's the problem? Basing reasons off religion is also stupid, I honestly don't think it's anyone's business how someone wishes to live.
Short answer: I'm all for it.
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I don't think gay marriage should be allowed.! Marriage is a religous thing- why are they doing
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kingdj333 Wrote:I don't think gay marriage should be allowed.! Marriage is a religous thing- why are they doing
Well, law isn't religion and gays are restricted from marriage by law. Those laws shouldn't be there.
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I prefer the idea of just removing government from marriage and letting people exercise their freedom of religion, or freedom to believe what they want. Why should they be getting in the middle of it at all?
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Doesn't matter to me. People can do whatever the hell they want if they're happy with it.
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Anonymous Moose Wrote:I prefer the idea of just removing government from marriage and letting people exercise their freedom of religion, or freedom to believe what they want. Why should they be getting in the middle of it at all?
It's more like removing religion from the government. Much of the problems of sexism in muslim countries are because state and church are very close to each other.
Argentina already allows it and "equal under the law" should cover for marriage to whoever wants it.
Just to be a bit of a devil's advocate: what reasons you can give pro gay marriage that couldn't be used pro polygamy?
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As far as the State is concerned, "marriage" is just shorthand for a bunch of contracts, that entitles a couple to certain rights (which vary between jurisdictions). A married couple are usually considered each other's "next of kin", meaning all sorts of things about automatic power of attorney, default inheritance, shared parenthood, shared finances, etc. And when people divorce, this is again shorthand for nullification of said contracts and a new set coming into play.
Like with the DADT (that didn't actually prevent gays from serving, only made their lives harder), having gay marriage "forbidden" doesn't actually prevent gays from being married de facto, it just means they have a lot more paperwork to go through to make sure they get all the rights and duties of a married couple. Allowing the State to register these marriages will make things much simpler for the gay couples and also for the authorities and whoever else cares about people being married as an indication that they share lives ("family discount" at the zoo?).
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kingdj333 Wrote:Marriage is a religous thing
And other religions share the same views on gay marriage, right?
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kingdj333 Wrote:I don't think gay marriage should be allowed.! Marriage is a religous thing- why are they doing
Funny, I don't remember any stipulation of people being gay means they aren't religious.
As far as I'm concerned, they deserve the same rights as everyone else, i.e. just let them get married if they want to like any other couple.
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I'm neutral.
If it isn't allowed, so be it.
If it is allowed, so be it.
Doesn't bother me or affect me in anyway for me to start a ruckus.
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I'm all for same-sex unions and their rights to be the same as regular married couples.
...but I rather not have it called marriage, because it's not marriage. To me, marriage will always be between a man and woman. That's it.
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Marriage or civil union. Marriage is a union recognized by the church. Civil unions are recognized by the government and allow the sharing of bank accounts, etc. I support civil unions but not marriages.
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Wikipedia Wrote:Marriage is a social union or legal contract between people that creates kinship. It is an institution in which interpersonal relationships, usually intimate and sexual, are acknowledged in a variety of ways, depending on the culture or subculture in which it is found. Such a union, often formalized via a wedding ceremony, may also be called matrimony.
People marry for many reasons, including one or more of the following: legal, social, emotional, economical, spiritual, and religious. These might include arranged marriages, family obligations, the legal establishment of a nuclear family unit, the legal protection of children and public declaration of commitment.[1][2] The act of marriage usually creates normative or legal obligations between the individuals involved. In some societies these obligations also extend to certain family members of the married persons. In cultures that allow the dissolution of a marriage this is known as divorce.
Marriage is usually recognized by the state, a religious authority, or both. It is often viewed as a contract. Civil marriage is the legal concept of marriage as a governmental institution irrespective of religious affiliation, in accordance with marriage laws of the jurisdiction. If recognized by the state, by the religion(s) to which the parties belong or by society in general, the act of marriage changes the personal and social status of the individuals who enter into it.
Dictionary Wrote:1.a.the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
b.a similar institution involving partners of the same gender: gay marriage.
2.the state, condition, or relationship of being married; wedlock: a happy marriage.
3.the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of two people to live as a married couple, including the accompanying social festivities: to officiate at a marriage.
4.a relationship in which two people have pledged themselves to each other in the manner of a husband and wife, without legal sanction: trial marriage.
5.any close or intimate association or union: the marriage of words and music in a hit song.
6.a formal agreement between two companies or enterprises to combine operations, resources, etc., for mutual benefit; merger.
7.a blending or matching of different elements or components: The new lipstick is a beautiful marriage of fragrance and texture.
8.Cards. a meld of the king and queen of a suit, as in pinochle.Compare royal marriage.
9.a piece of antique furniture assembled from components of two or more authentic pieces.
10.Obsolete. the formal declaration or contract by which act a man and a woman join in wedlock.
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The wording is very iffy and this is a very sensitive topic. The law should not make a difference. What the Churches do is their own business. Any laws regarding Churches discriminating by race, gender, income, etc should apply to sexual orientation. I don't actually know what laws there are which deal with that matter, but I see no reason for them to differ.
In short, Marriage is no longer solely a religious construct and it must be treated as such.
I am a bit curious though. What do you mean by Gay marriage should be allowed with certain restrictions?
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Hazzy Wrote:The wording is very iffy and this is a very sensitive topic. The law should not make a difference. What the Churches do is their own business. Any laws regarding Churches discriminating by race, gender, income, etc should apply to sexual orientation. I don't actually know what laws there are which deal with that matter, but I see no reason for them to differ.
In short, Marriage is no longer solely a religious construct and it must be treated as such.
I am a bit curious though. What do you mean by Gay marriage should be allowed with certain restrictions?
Civil Union, aka faux marriage.
Also, slippery slope topic. Can't wait to read this.
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To be honest, I see marriage as a religious thing. I think each religious instantion that does weddings should be able to decide for themselves.
As for my personal view, I'm all for gay-marriage.
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I don't mind, to be honest. If they love each other, then I find it acceptable. If they marry for laughs, then that would be pointless. Marriage is for loving couples, regardless of gender. Sometimes friendship between 2 people can turn to love.
I'm all for gay marriage.
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