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Just noting that I work Friday night until 1am EST, so that's not a great night.
On the Nunu thing:
I finally found a sweet build for Gragas that truly makes sense for the off-tank that he is. I wouldn't be surprised if Nunu has a similar structure out there.
http://leaguecraft.com/strategies/guide/...uide.xhtml Section 13 for the nitty gritty on Gragas' items.
The guy spiels on and on about tanks in general, nothing in particular about Nunu, but he has a few points about other tanks and how to build to their strengths. The farthest I've ever gotten into the build is everything but Rylai's, and I think I'd take the new Zhonya's hourglass over it if I ever got to a full build.
Drunken Rage with the Body Slam with the Sheen is so, so sexy.
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madanthony Wrote:Just noting that I work Friday night until 1am EST, so that's not a great night.
On the Nunu thing:
I finally found a sweet build for Gragas that truly makes sense for the off-tank that he is. I wouldn't be surprised if Nunu has a similar structure out there.
http://leaguecraft.com/strategies/guide/...uide.xhtml Section 13 for the nitty gritty on Gragas' items.
The guy spiels on and on about tanks in general, nothing in particular about Nunu, but he has a few points about other tanks and how to build to their strengths. The farthest I've ever gotten into the build is everything but Rylai's, and I think I'd take the new Zhonya's hourglass over it if I ever got to a full build.
Drunken Rage with the Body Slam with the Sheen is so, so sexy.
Nunu is pretty straight forward. Just rush rod of ages then build tank items until you are bulky enough to live most fights, then just stack ap like any other caster.
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>Pineapple' Wrote:Nunu is pretty straight forward. Just rush rod of ages then build tank items until you are bulky enough to live most fights, then just stack ap like any other caster.
This. Though, can't you do something like this?
Doran's Ring ---> RoA ---> Randouins Omen (and get Negatron Cape for temp. Mdef needs; also serves as a building block for Banshee Veil) ---> Deathcap ---> Mercury Threads ---> Banshee Veil ----> Spirit Visage (replace Doran's Ring)
Also....
I'm thinking about having the 5-man "Bravery" LoL match on Friday afternoon PST (exact time TBA). Any objections?
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>Pineapple' Wrote:Nunu is pretty straight forward. Just rush rod of ages then build tank items until you are bulky enough to live most fights, then just stack ap like any other caster.
That's what I previously did on Gragas. RoA->Glacial Shroud, Banshee's, whatever struck my fancy really. His thoughts on sheen and the fact that Spirit Visage's 12% CDR is just enough to keep you constantly on Drunken Rage were new and convincing. I like the guide as a whole, it speaks nerdy to me. Everything is explained in excess depth, none of the "this build is awesome and here's the score I got in a few games" and no other text I run into so much. It may not apply to Nunu at all, but I wanted to share it anyway. Because I love fatty, drunk Gragas man. *o*
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WillDaSnail Wrote:This. Though, can't you do something like this?
Doran's Ring ---> RoA ---> Randouins Omen (and get Negatron Cape for temp. Mdef needs; also serves as a building block for Banshee Veil) ---> Deathcap ---> Mercury Threads ---> Banshee Veil ----> Spirit Visage (replace Doran's Ring)
Also....
I'm thinking about having the 5-man "Bravery" LoL match on Friday afternoon PST (exact time TBA). Any objections?
Like I said, if you feel you're taking too much damage or dying too often in team fights, buy more tank items, if not, buy more AP for your broken AP ratio skills
Tank items obviously vary depending on their comp.
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Nunus AP ratio isn't broken 
If it was broken he'd be top tier, but he is low-mid tier when it comes to teamfights.
Gragas vlad and nunu are high hp casters with each their speciality IMO.
Vlad is able to make AOE damage a blast, vlad -> amumu -> MF ulti -> dead enemies, for example.
Gragas is able to split up enemies and ruin their positioning and harass a ton.
Nunu is, well with his ulti he can be a CC magnet but after that he isn't someone you pay attention to, unless he got fed. He is like a bit of support too, with his move/attack speed buff and he can slow enemies.
Besides his ulti his damage output is low.
But @ the annie comment, yea play annie, she got the #1 burst damage in the game. Not counting a fed veigar  It's fun to oneshot squishies with veigar when you're fed, bwahahaha.
And anybody able to find out what time the bravery thingy is in GMT +1?
And anybody awake atm for a game?
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Unleashing Wrote:Nunus AP ratio isn't broken 
If it was broken he'd be top tier, but he is low-mid tier when it comes to teamfights.
Nunu's borderline broken for his AP ratio.
Unleashing Wrote:And anybody awake atm for a game? 
I'm awake. Though...
1) Doing homework right now
2) Don't have a smurf account to play with you. MM might do some weird things.
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If you get time, give me a ping or something, i'll have the client open.
And making a new account takes 2 secs
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Unleashing Wrote:If you get time, give me a ping or something, i'll have the client open.
And making a new account takes 2 secs 
Probably will not be able to play tonight, I'm tired as hell, lol.
And making a new (smurf) account requires me to obtain a champion that I like to use on my main account so I can have consistent performance as a tanker. In this case, I will need to acquire Nunu (cheapest tank I can find). Give me a couple hours of playing my smurf account so I can acquire him.
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I'll play with you guys after a while if you are on. What's your IGN for the US account unleashing?
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WillDaSnail Wrote:Nunu's borderline broken for his AP ratio. 
Quite frankly speaking, Nunu's Ice Blast is the only reliable skill. His ultimate is devastating when it gets its full effect, but there are a ton of ways for the coordinated enemy team to either evade or disrupt your ultimate. So his AP ratios are okay. Scaling into late game is fine when the other team isn't doing a 5-man roaming squad; Nunu has very little effectiveness against multiple people with exception to an ultimate in the grass (remember that trick?).
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KajitiSouls Wrote:Nunu has very little effectiveness against multiple people with exception to an ultimate in the grass (remember that trick?).
Yup. I still yet have to pull it off.
Though, is there any way I could achieve the "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU" effect with Absolute Zero?
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WillDaSnail Wrote:Nunu's borderline
Yep ER is pretty damn annoying. But it shouldn't really matter since he'll be trying to run while using it, so that's still one less person to deal with in a fight. If you have enough cc and coordination, though, he's easy to kill.
Also, ignite owns trynd.
Wait like 2 or 3 seconds after he rages and ignite him for profit.
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>Pineapple' Wrote:Yep ER is pretty damn annoying. But it shouldn't really matter since he'll be trying to run while using it, so that's still one less person to deal with in a fight. If you have enough cc and coordination, though, he's easy to kill.
Also, ignite owns trynd.
Wait like 2 or 3 seconds after he rages and ignite him for profit.
What if he's not running while using it? What if he's swinging his big ***** while running after you?! Huh?! If that happens consistently, either you or your team did it wrong, or 80% of the time you've already lost x_X
Also, the skill is technically called "Undying Rage".
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KajitiSouls Wrote:Also, the skill is technically called "Undying Rage".
On my screen, it shows up as "Endless Rage". Repeatedly.
And for the Trynds I've encountered, they Endless Rage when they reach 0 HP, then get their ****ing asses out of the fight.
What's the purpose of Ignite anyways? I only have Flash and Exhaust to go with my tanking roles, not sure if its worthwhile to replace one or the other of those skills just for Ignite, lol
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Where's the list of igns that I add?
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Corn Wrote:Playing the tutorial. Name: ClawofBeta 
Where's the list of igns that I add?
Just go through the past few pages of this thread. You'll find our IGNs.
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