So.... how much does it cost to be a strong magician?

Someone was complaining to me about how expensive it is to be a Bishop/Archmage at the moment. I decided to breakdown the cost of how much it costs to equip up a decent/strong Bis/AM to find out (Assuming the server is Scania, the rough cost of some good luk mage items using current market prices):

30int+ Zhelm : approx 200m (This is very subjective as some people are lucky and scroll a 30+int in their first try, some have broken over 20 helms and considering 70% helm int was 15m each just a while ago. I guess this goes for other classes now too since helm dex 70% has appeared)

30int Overall : approx 500m

20+stat (Int+MA) Gloves : approx 300m

Doomsday staff for Bishop : approx 600m
Elemental Wands for AM : approx 2B?? lol

12/20 Earrings : approx 500m

8/16 Shield : approx 800m?

8/10 cape : approx 200m?

LoL. I haven't even calculated lukless mage items. Nor mentioned horntail pendants/eggs (for those who have to buy, considering AM are prob the hardest to get into a ht run) & skill books. Correct me if the prices are wrong. Anyway i just think this goes to show how crazy it is if you want to be a strong mage now. New magicians watch out!

Btw can someone post how much it costs to equip a decent NL or maybe another class? I'm curious to know

It's expensive for every class if you wanna be strong.

Op, you do know there is a diffrence from "Strong and godly" Right? the gear you posted was really uhhh Godly?

Which one are you talking about?

It's expensive for every class if you wanna be strong.

That's true but mage equips give the least "improvement for mesos" spent. Weapon Attack classes have stuff like weapon atk for gloves and shoes. The amount of mesos for mages to improve just 1 int is crazy.

Op, you do know there is a diffrence from "Strong and godly" Right? the gear you posted was really uhhh Godly?

Which one are you talking about?

Ask any godly mage. The gears i posted are only decent/good.

If you want to compare to an NL that uses 20+ sets of cilbis, 60+atk claw, 20+ atk glove, 5+ atk shoes, 6+ atk cape, and a bunch of other stuff, that's just silly.

Just the 20+ sets of cilbis alone is more than 2 billion. Chaos scrolled cape and shoes just makes them impossible to compare.

The two classes are very different because the power of the NL comes from equips--something you can buy. The power of the magician comes from their spell attack--something the game gives.

Metaphorically speaking, It's kinda like...

Magicians
100% damage

70% comes from base spell attack
30% comes from equips

Night Lords
100% damage

70% comes from equips
30% comes from base attack (L7, TT has 150%)

For NLs, it's almost like they're buying their power. Magicians can't. So equips are cheaper for magicians.

The market these days, the best of the best will cost billions. It just depends on how many billions.

Having friends that has access/own LUKless I/Ls, reg-LUK Bishops, etc etc etc., I can tell you this now.. you don't need an abundance of Mesos to fund a strong Archmage/Bishop, it's not like you're trying to make a Night Lord, similar to what Butterfli said.

Cheapest path is to be a LUKless mage or of such, that way, you can dish out more damage without having to pay a ton for equipments, unless you're trying to be supremely-godly.. then you're just wasting your time, and have to pay even MORE for godly equipments than a regular LUK-mage/bishop... >_>

Well, bishops are generally richer than archmages because they spend pretty much nothing to train 1-120, and most of them regularly attend zakum or horntail runs for profit. Their ultimate also costs less, and they can let other people leech better for more money.

Also, what's your definition of strong? If you're talking about stronger than the average magician, then the equipment you listed will definitely be way over the top. For example, I doubt more than 50% of magicians have a successfully scrolled zakum helm, 20/12 earrings, or an elemental wand. And how is it harder for an archmage to get into a horntail run as a buyer as compared to any other class? Buyers just stand outside anyways.

Godly iz more liek....

4 Base luk
18/110+ Maple Shiner Wand/ Wisdom Staff-Bishop // Elemental Staff-Mage
= 1.8b/2.1b

15/25 + Earrings
2.1b

11/22+ Shield
2.1b

17/15+ Lukless Gloves
2.1b+

35+ Stat Overall (Levels 0-48 Only)
~1.2b+

5 Int Yellow Snowshoes
400mil? <-- yay cheap =D

20+ Stat Cape
500m+

35+ Int Zhelm// 16-17 Luk base
Endless reloots & scrolls -> Min: 150m Max: Infinity

+23 Int/+23 Luk Horntail Pendant (8/8 base + egg)
Endless reloots -> Min: 650m Max: (Extra pendant reloots 300m. each)

There ya go =)

Its not even that much meso f3

Also, what's your definition of strong? If you're talking about stronger than the average magician, then the equipment you listed will definitely be way over the top. For example, I doubt more than 50% of magicians have a successfully scrolled zakum helm, 20/12 earrings, or an elemental wand. And how is it harder for an archmage to get into a horntail run as a buyer as compared to any other class? Buyers just stand outside anyways.

there's a difference between strong/decent and average. I guess everyone has their own opinions about what is strong gear but wearing a combination of those gears i posted wouldn't even get you into the top 30 magicians. btw i was talking about AM prob having the lowest chance to get into a normal ht run. Did you read wrongly lol?

there's a difference between strong/decent and average. I guess everyone has their own opinions about what is strong gear but wearing a combination of those gears i posted wouldn't even get you into the top 30 magicians. btw i was talking about AM prob having the lowest chance to get into a normal ht run. Did you read wrongly lol?

Then again, the damage difference between the top equipped mage and an average geared (i.e. clean level 100 gear, maybe 60% scrolled cheaper things like staff/earring) level 150 is only about 20%. The difference for a class like a Night Lord is probably around 50%, which you can guess will cost more like 100+ billion, though it is probably server dependent (That's the typical cost of white scrolling your weapon, which is an absolute necessity if you want perfect +7 10% stats).

I'm not certain but I'd guess there's about a minimum 20 billion worth of gear to get into the top 30 Night Lords, possibly more.

Bishops cost way more to fund than a mage. If i was a mage (making one atm) I would just buy the elemental wand and my damage would be godly enough.


oh and a 20 stats glove in scania is 500-700m now. I bought a 25 stats for nearly 3 bill.
I dunno how it is in other server


Another thing you can't compared doomsday to elemental wands maybe to elemental staffs there might be a price comparison. Comparing a lukless item to a luk item doesnt work out.

I used to be a bit of a damage whore. I bought the most expensive equips, fought for every point of attack, etc. Then I went to Yollande for the 2x month-long event, and leveled a Bishop to 131, (20th in the server at the end of the event,) using a 2 dex bathrobe, 2 str Stolen Fence, and a 3 point below average clean Black Umbrella. (I had 7 starting luk.) I spent next to nothing on gear, and everything on pots to fund the next day's training. People who spent time during the event merchanting trained much less than I did. That's when I learned that while equipment is nice, lvling to a high point is MUCH more important. Let's say your magician is equipped like a damage whore, but my lukless magician is 40 lvls higher. That's 200 intelligence right there, which is not that easy to get from gear. I have much better equips now that I am back on my home server, but I am just saying, you do not need gazillions of mesos to have fun in this game. If you have to choose between spending NX on Gachopon and spending it on 2x cards so you level faster, it would be wise to pick the 2x cards. If anything, a 4th job character can waste some time collecting Ilbis at Wolf Spiders, or doing APQ easily, and the mesos come easier then anyway.

Its so expensive, but mesos come and go!

Wait for the economy to go down first. The meso to int rate is just outrageous. I can tell you now, when I scrolled my equips, it cost about a fraction of what it takes now.

I bought a 25 stats for nearly 3 bill.

we magicians are stupid. take off that glove and cast genesis, then put on that glove and cast genesis. how much different do you notice your damage is? if it can help you go from 2hit ko to 1hit ko, then it's worth it. if it doesnt, then it just further proves magicians are stupid for setting up a price for their own class. im sure you wouldve rather paid 2bil instead of 3bil.

25matk is the equivalent of 5 level ups but if looked at it that way, i suppose every level up is pointless too lol.

we magicians are stupid. take off that glove and cast genesis, then put on that glove and cast genesis. how much different do you notice your damage is? if it can help you go from 2hit ko to 1hit ko, then it's worth it. if it doesnt, then it just further proves magicians are stupid for setting up a price for their own class. im sure you wouldve rather paid 2bil instead of 3bil.

25matk is the equivalent of 25 level ups but if looked at it that way, i suppose every level up is pointless too lol.

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25 matk = 5 lvls[/COLOR]

Dont forget Yellow Snow shoes for int thats like 100-200m For a Godly int Pair

Bishops cost way more to fund than a mage. If i was a mage (making one atm) I would just buy the elemental wand and my damage would be godly enough.

never seen anything further from the truth. lest ye forget 25% of low dmg is not = to godly dmg. it CAN mean the difference between 1hko or 2hko but that would be the sole purpose for it. the holy class is the cheapest by far to own/level/boss from 30 all the way through 200. nevermind the fact that at 14x you'll be at skeles doing better than an AM at newties with an elemental weapon. Make sure you understand your AM fully before expecting an easy ride to 200.

never seen anything further from the truth. lest ye forget 25% of low dmg is not = to godly dmg. it CAN mean the difference between 1hko or 2hko but that would be the sole purpose for it. the holy class is the cheapest by far to own/level/boss from 30 all the way through 200. nevermind the fact that at 14x you'll be at skeles doing better than an AM at newties with an elemental weapon. Make sure you understand your AM fully before expecting an easy ride to 200.

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Elemental weapon +25% bonus
from 1k matk +25% = 1.25k

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never seen anything further from the truth. lest ye forget 25% of low dmg is not = to godly dmg. it CAN mean the difference between 1hko or 2hko but that would be the sole purpose for it. the holy class is the cheapest by far to own/level/boss from 30 all the way through 200. nevermind the fact that at 14x you'll be at skeles doing better than an AM at newties with an elemental weapon. Make sure you understand your AM fully before expecting an easy ride to 200.

Lets say we have a bishop with 900 magic
and an Archmage with 800 magic
Add in the awesome little .25 from our new wand.
and
We get an Archmage with 1000 magic effectively.
So as we can see.
you have to be 25% better to be equal to this archmage.
Unless you are on holy weak.