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130 MR is already 60% reduction, with ballcurl you're up to almost 80% reduction. With FoN you're at maybe 85% reduction in the end, 5% reduction for that kind of cost, just not worth it. %-reduction gets harder to get the more MR/armor you get.
And if all of your enemies are pure AP, sure go with FoN. go HP and MR. But the second they have some physical damage, mercs and banshees and aegis give plenty.
Aegis is an underestimated item really.
Unleashing Wrote:They'd be decent but normally spirit visage + masteries + blue buff= max CDR, or around it.
But good boots non the less for gragas, only if enemies aren't CC heavy tho, these boots are perfect on zilean tho. Or support champs in general.

But as gragas you just gotta have a ton of mana regen runes, buy seals and glyphs with mana regen per level, they're cheap and help a ton, i never ran completely out of mana as gragas.
But just barrel roll ranged creeps twice and later on go for all the creeps, stick to your lane without pushing it too much, get the tower if you can but try not to since you wont be able to mass farm there anymore.
My best game with gragas where i was allowed to farm all i want i hadn't gone back a single time and earned almost 5k at the 20 min mark. Tho that game i had horrible enemies.

I've been informed to not bother buying runes until lvl20, so I haven't bothered with them. I just open with a Doran's Ring.
Unleashing Wrote:130 MR is already 60% reduction, with ballcurl you're up to almost 80% reduction. With FoN you're at maybe 85% reduction in the end, 5% reduction for that kind of cost, just not worth it. %-reduction gets harder to get the more MR/armor you get.
And if all of your enemies are pure AP, sure go with FoN. go HP and MR. But the second they have some physical damage, mercs and banshees and aegis give plenty.
Aegis is an underestimated item really.

Mind explaining to me the full benefits of having Aegis on you? Tongue1
WillDaSnail Wrote:Mind explaining to me the full benefits of having Aegis on you? Tongue1
Effects +270 Health
+18 Armor
+24 Magic Resistance
Passive UNIQUE Aura: +12 Armor, +15 Magic Resist and +8 Attack Damage to nearby allied units.
Means you get the passive bonuses and the aura, and so does your allies, which makes your squishies a bit less squishy and helps your carries on the damage.
It seems like a small buff, but it can mean life and death.

madanthony Wrote:I've been informed to not bother buying runes until lvl20, so I haven't bothered with them. I just open with a Doran's Ring.

even tier 1 mana regen runes helps a ton, let's you farm early game a bit easier and lategame you shouldnt run out of mana on most champs.
I'm on tier 2 mana regen runes atm, my marks are attack speed tho. Not serious runes, they're just to speed up my WW jungling and i don't bother with others.
But at level 18 i got close to 40 mp per 5 without any buffs.
Unleashing Wrote:Effects +270 Health
+18 Armor
+24 Magic Resistance
Passive UNIQUE Aura: +12 Armor, +15 Magic Resist and +8 Attack Damage to nearby allied units.
Means you get the passive bonuses and the aura, and so does your allies, which makes your squishies a bit less squishy and helps your carries on the damage.
It seems like a small buff, but it can mean life and death.

I do know the Aegis effects. But what you're saying is that I (and my teammates around me) can get the passive buffs, making the shield a strong PD/MD item? :f6:
Aegis is a very amazing item;however, I believe it should not be bought on a tank since it doesnt offer a huge amount for armor or mr. A support champ on your team should get it. If not when your team is winning then you as the tank should get a aiges to ensure your teammates dont die.
madanthony Wrote:I've been informed to not bother buying runes until lvl20, so I haven't bothered with them. I just open with a Doran's Ring.

You may also want a potion, depending on who you think you'll be laning against.
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:You may also want a potion, depending on who you think you'll be laning against.

I kinda figured that goes without saying. I always take potion(s).
Aw yeah, internet. Thanks for the double post.
Holy pomegranate. Caitlyn sucks balls.

EDIT: So if anyone's interested in picking up kog'maw (he's free atm) I have a guide. I've been playing him for quite a while (before he was free) and dumped my knowledge of him into this guide. I'll be updating it whenever something changes the way he plays like new items, skill buffs/nerfs, etc.

http://leaguecraft.com/strategies/guide/...nder.xhtml
>Pineapple' Wrote:Holy pomegranate. Caitlyn sucks balls.

She's a new champion right now. Give it some time while players find out ways to make her dominant on the battlefield. Biggrin
WillDaSnail Wrote:She's a new champion right now. Give it some time while players find out ways to make her dominant on the battlefield. Biggrin

Her ultimate is glitched to hell right now though. It doesn't work if for whatever reason her target disappears from view, it is dodgeable, and Pantheon's shield blocks it (only the last one was intended). It's pretty unusable atm.

The rest of Caitlyn seems to be a standard carry outfit though.
KajitiSouls Wrote:Her ultimate is glitched to hell right now though. It doesn't work if for whatever reason her target disappears from view, it is dodgeable, and Pantheon's shield blocks it (only the last one was intended). It's pretty unusable atm.

Lolwat
StormMike Wrote:Aegis is a very amazing item;however, I believe it should not be bought on a tank since it doesnt offer a huge amount for armor or mr. A support champ on your team should get it. If not when your team is winning then you as the tank should get a aiges to ensure your teammates dont die.

It's a tank or support item IMO.
HP, MR, Armor.
Aura that buffs your team mates, sorry but it's simply perfect for rammus, amumuand malphite IMO. Cheap low tier item with great stats. But i also buy it when i play sona for example.
And lol caitlin sucks from what i can read on the boards Rolleyes
WillDaSnail Wrote:Lolwat

Go to 3:58. You'll see Caitlyn trying to target Blitzcrank with her ult, but it fails when he dives into the grass.

Oh, and if the rest of you are interested (like you ever would), that's me playing a game xD Here's the first video of 4.
KajitiSouls Wrote:Go to 3:58. You'll see Caitlyn trying to target Blitzcrank with her ult, but it fails when he dives into the grass.

Oh, and if the rest of you are interested (like you ever would), that's me playing a game xD Here's the first video of 4.

Lol, you are right. What the fudgecakes?

Oh and Kaj, we should make a LoL video of us LoLing together, lol. Anivia + Rammus duo ftw?
KajitiSouls Wrote:Go to 3:58. You'll see Caitlyn trying to target Blitzcrank with her ult, but it fails when he dives into the grass.

Oh, and if the rest of you are interested (like you ever would), that's me playing a game xD Here's the first video of 4.

Nice commentary Biggrin
So......

I just played a late-night LoL round and boy I got trashed. Saw an enemy Rammus with 300+ defense with equips. Stacked every good PD armor he could find. Rolleyes

So now I'm somewhat debating whether to drop Warmog and maybe get something temporary like a Giant's Belt to help me out with HP until my HP is high enough. Perhaps maybe get Aegis/Sunfire or something in place of Warmog? :f6:
WillDaSnail Wrote:So now I'm somewhat debating whether to drop Warmog and maybe get something temporary like a Giant's Belt to help me out with HP until my HP is high enough. Perhaps maybe get Aegis/Sunfire or something in place of Warmog? :f6:

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This is what i've tried to tell you to do for what 2 pages? Monocle
WillDaSnail Wrote:So now I'm somewhat debating whether to drop Warmog and maybe get something temporary like a Giant's Belt to help me out with HP until my HP is high enough. Perhaps maybe get Aegis/Sunfire or something in place of Warmog? :f6:

Warmog on rammus = not good.

For mid-game HP you should be building sunfire or banshees. You can get aegis before building either for more hp and to support your team in fights.

WillDaSnail Wrote:She's a new champion right now. Give it some time while players find out ways to make her dominant on the battlefield.

She's an ad carry. There is absolutely no possible way she can be anything else because her skills are not support-class, she has no AP scaling worth mentioning and her attack range is huge.

Her ult is bugged right now (the damage, I mean). It's actually supposed to be able to crit and have much higher base damage than it does right now.

What makes her horrible is that her skills do almost nothing for her. Her Q only gets worse as the game progresses, her net is a pretty bad escape (doesnt go far enough) and the slow on the net is almost unnoticeable.

Her auto-attack damage is just... horrible to say the least. Caitlyn with a bf sword gets outdamaged by almost every other carry without one.

To have any noticeable damage with her you need to stack loads of armor pen and attack damage which you'd have to be extremely fed to do and any other ad carry with that much feeding would bring much more to the team. (even twitch after his nerfs).

She's absolutely horrible in her current state and needs a hotfix.


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