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guys if u wear all the sets u outdamage Statless characters MUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
45ATK= 6STATS
45*5=225STATS
45WEAPON ATTACK= 225 Main Stat
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and if u scroll 166 dex = 59Stats Powefuller
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Now the Items itself ae better than any items in the Game,
= 5000x Time stronger than statless
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Phoenix Wrote:Ah oki, thought so. And now I understand your reasoning lol.
If so, it's not the end of the world for statless folks. If you truely want to be top tier like that there's always 70 stat CHTP's too >_>
You need +166 secondary stat.
These items heavily favour Night Lords, and to a lesser extent other thieves, which makes no sense to me. Timeless Lampion requires 160 DEX. These require 170 DEX. Timeless Engaw requires 125 STR. These require 170 STR.
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Fiel Wrote:Well, for Mages it's obviously 45 MATK. Just want to make that clear.
Thanks for clarifying  .
Beg Wrote:The magician set looks to be pretty decent at least, also awesome colour scheme. :>
Completely agree on the look of the set. This is by far my favorite level set of Magician gear when based solely on aesthetics.
On top of that, Mages, getting this full set of gear is definitely our end-game set. Think about it this way: the Lv. 163 Elemental Staves are technically our best choices for end-game currently, as they have the highest base MATK of any weapon we can equip. The amount, of course, is so much higher than the next-best bet (the VIP Wand) that moving all of that extra base INT into LUK just to equip the staff still makes it better than using the VIP Wand. Now we have a Lv. 140 Staff that has 12 MATK less, base, than an Elemental Staff, but with the +45 MATK from the set, along with the additional MATK various other equips give, it easily makes up for that MATK difference and the small additional LUK needed to equip the set as opposed to the Elemental Staff.
In conclusion, LF> AP Reset sale.
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I never thought I'd meet another equip ever again that I don't have enough dex for. Guess I was wrong!
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Oh god now you can have a full armor set of armor in the final tier. If this patch hits GMS I'll probably spend hours on end cubing.
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To think I wanted to replace my current stonetooth, which is already requiring more than enough DEX, with a different weapon. And now I need that much DEX for good equipment!
...more DEX here I come. Somehow. That equipment not only looks cool, but it's amazing and I sure hope it doesn't take the new Cygnus boss or something rather difficult to obtain it. I still don't see Timeless gear on the market. How long ago was Pink Bean released? And now a pretty much superbuffed Pink Bean and then some comes out. Should we expect Level 140 gear by 2013?
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Well, they definitely look nice.
High secondary stat requirement, but I supposed it's worth the insane stat boosts.
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Chuey Wrote:To think I wanted to replace my current stonetooth, which is already requiring more than enough DEX, with a different weapon. And now I need that much DEX for good equipment!
...more DEX here I come. Somehow. That equipment not only looks cool, but it's amazing and I sure hope it doesn't take the new Cygnus boss or something rather difficult to obtain it. I still don't see Timeless gear on the market. How long ago was Pink Bean released? And now a pretty much superbuffed Pink Bean and then some comes out. Should we expect Level 140 gear by 2013?
It'll be out next year, I feel. Probably around October.
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Am I honestly the only one that doesn't think that these are amazing, in terms of a warrior/bowman perspective?
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Wait, where are the lvl 130 equips? Did I miss that thread? o.0
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Locked Wrote:Am I honestly the only one that doesn't think that these are amazing, in terms of a warrior/bowman perspective?
I'm with you, in that the increase in damage would have to be outstanding for me to even consider recubing and swtching sets. Most of this is for the exact reason Joe stated about there being an equal requirement for basically unequal classes.
Though, I'm pretty confident you could actually equip these with very minimal secondary stats because the 2ndary bonuses on these alone CLEAN for a lvl 200 warrior would bring your dex up to 136 which allows for a lot of room to set up a system to support each other.
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Locked Wrote:Am I honestly the only one that doesn't think that these are amazing, in terms of a warrior/bowman perspective?
Me too.. I'm at 4 STR base and if i had to get back like 170 base STR i'd just say no. It isn't worth it. I'm losing the same amount of theoretical attack that I'm gaining.
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Locked Wrote:Am I honestly the only one that doesn't think that these are amazing, in terms of a warrior/bowman perspective?
I think it's fine that the equips require that kind of dex. I'm not switching equips considering how much I spent cubing my gear but I already have the dex required to wear these equips if I wanted to.
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Fiel, could you please tell us how to obtain these level 140 items?
Because if these items are drops from Cygnus then there is no much of a point, if any, on arguing about the high secondary stat requirement. Like shouri said, Its been around 3 years since pink bean was released and barely anyone kills it. Just in GMS its been killed only like 4 times after all this time? Killing Cygnus will take as much time, if not longer and even if its killed soon, only the most rich would be able to afford these items.
I hope there is another way to get these and not Cygnus. Like maybe you need a equipment maker character with maxed charisma, because these items seriously are worth the high stat requirements. With hammer, these items have from 9 to 14 slots to scroll and a full set would give +55 att and around 100+ to the main stat clean.
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I doubt he can tell, especially since drops are server sided.
And the only reason PB isn't killed more (at least preBB) is that the drops just aren't worth the effort. So deciding if these equips are really amazing or not plays a big factor in if it will be readily available or not.
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The new skills:
Warriors get 'Guardian Armor', Mages get 'Elemental Weaken', Bowmen get 'Nature's Drain', Thieves get 'Magic Steal' (Except for NW which gets 'Darkness' for some reason), and Pirates get 'Fortune Attack'.
Mages' skill gives them a chance to make their opponent 'weak to magic' so they do more damage on them with magic attacks. Bowmen's skill gives them a chance to heal HP and MP every attack. Thieves' skills (including the NW one, they're the same), gives them a chance to steal up to 3 buffs from their opponenets (I think). Pirates' skill gives them a chance to do extra damage.
not too sure about the warrior skill.
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Fiel Wrote:Well, for Mages it's obviously 45 MATK. Just want to make that clear.
That would be better than a zhelm/scar helm, right?
Would be sooooo nice to have a reason to wear a class hat.
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byakugan Wrote:Fiel, could you please tell us how to obtain these level 140 items?
Because if these items are drops from Cygnus then there is no much of a point, if any, on arguing about the high secondary stat requirement. Like shouri said, Its been around 3 years since pink bean was released and barely anyone kills it. Just in GMS its been killed only like 4 times after all this time? Killing Cygnus will take as much time, if not longer and even if its killed soon, only the most rich would be able to afford these items.
I hope there is another way to get these and not Cygnus. Like maybe you need a equipment maker character with maxed charisma, because these items seriously are worth the high stat requirements. With hammer, these items have from 9 to 14 slots to scroll and a full set would give +55 att and around 100+ to the main stat clean.
Doing a google search for the name of the item put me in the Profession Skills thread.
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byakugan Wrote:Like shouri said, Its been around 3 years since pink bean was released and barely anyone kills it. Just in GMS its been killed only like 4 times after all this time? Killing Cygnus will take as much time, if not longer and even if its killed soon, only the most rich would be able to afford these items
So many things are wrong with that statement. Pink Bean was released on July 09, or around that time. Pink Bean has been defeated at least 4 times in Windia alone, this isn't even including other servers.
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